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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ^^ I'm not passing judgment... Just remember that the SC is a place to have some fun, but it should not substitute for having a real social life... Its far easier to pay a dancer to flirt with us than to risk rejection in a non-SC setting, but you can't give up on social interactions. Attractive women in non-SC settings are accessible, if you work on self-improvement (exercise, grooming, learn to tell interesting stories and funny jokes, etc.) and if you can fake confidence...
    Oh, but you are passing judgement. You think guys who pay for conversation are lonely, pathetic losers who have no real social life. A lot of people would say the same about a guy who pays women to dance for him and spends a significant amount of time posting on stripperweb.

    There is absolutely nothing weird, pathetic, or even unusual about paying a stripper for conversation. I am good at conversation. The people who pay me for it do so because they liketalking to me. Sure, they could call one of their friends, or go talk to a stranger on the street, but those people would not be me.
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    Oh, but you are passing judgement. You think guys who pay for conversation are lonely, pathetic losers who have no real social life.
    I'm not saying they are lonely, pathetic losers... I'm saying they can become lonely, pathetic losers by relying too much on the SC and letting it take the place of real socializing... Look, its not easy to stay attractive and charming... You get past 30s and you gain weight, don't keep up with the latest styles, etc... It takes work to stay fit, look good, dress trendy, keep up with the interesting topics of the day, develop your "game", keep a cool "crib", be charming to the younger ladies, etc... So, a guy could say - fuck all that hard work, I'll just let myself get fat, not worry about the clothes I wear or my "crib", not try so hard to impress girls with my wit and humor... I'll just pay hot dancers to talk to me...

    Or a guy could accidentally discover how "nice" dancers are (they're not "mean" like the girls in the bar that tell you to fuck off) and he just gives up seeking a real romantic partner or female friendships because he spends all his free time and money with the nice dancers.

    Convo at the SC is a crutch... It can make the guy lazy...

    You ladies say it yourselves --- the SC provides a fantasy... Fantasies are fun, but a guy needs to have real social interaction with women.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    A lot of people would say the same about a guy who pays women to dance for him and spends a significant amount of time posting on stripperweb.
    Erotic entertainment is commonplace... Everybody is on the internet downloading porn... Getting a lap dance is just erotic entertainment (unless you become addicted to the SC)... There's nothing PL about it, unless you spend too much money or "fall in love" with the dancers...

    I admit I am lonely and pathetic when I'm in the office -- It's just me and a stack of legal files to go through... So, I'd much rather be on this forum trading wits with smart women like you... But, I don't spend my free time on this forum... Also,.... this forum is FREE...

    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    There is absolutely nothing weird, pathetic, or even unusual about paying a stripper for conversation. I am good at conversation. The people who pay me for it do so because they liketalking to me. Sure, they could call one of their friends, or go talk to a stranger on the street, but those people would not be me.
    Here is the part I don't get --- I'm paying you money... I can get both convo and lap dances... We chat, I buy you drinks, you give me several lap dances (high contact please), we chat a few more minutes, then I leave very happy with the interaction... That's my idea of a good time - I've gotten both convo and LDs... The next guy doesn't want any LDs, he just wants to talk... WTF? IF HE DOESN'T WANT LDS WHY IS HE IN A SC? That's like watching a porn only for the dialogue and skipping through the sex scenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FasterMike View Post
    This whole line of thought demonstrates your skewed perspective. Why would you conclude that I'm somehow deficient in my social life or I need self-improvement from the fact that I enjoy chatting with attractive naked women? I'm not concerned with being rejected, I don't want to have to rejectthem. If I spend hours chatting up some random in a hotel bar, she is going to get the wrong idea. I'm not available.
    No,... there is no requirement that you have sex with every girl you talk to in a hotel bar... Some of them are just like you - on a business trip - friendly, but not looking for sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by FasterMike View Post
    Maybe you need to do some self-improvement on your conversational skills.
    Not at all... I talk to dancers the way I would any other woman I meet... I don't talk "dirty" to them or get into a therapy session (except that I've asked them for their female perspective on personal matters)... Obviously, during the LD, I might make a few flattering remarks.

    Quote Originally Posted by FasterMike View Post
    Successful conversations in bars are much more rare for me than strip clubs, the girls are hotter and wear less
    In any major city, there are many beautiful women in the trendy upscale bars/clubs and they wear very provocative clothing that looks a lot like what dancers wear in the upscale SCs. (Not to mention that young women dance like dancers in the SC.)

    Quote Originally Posted by FasterMike View Post
    Successful conversations in bars are much more rare for me than strip clubs, the girls are hotter and wear less and strippers never get mad when they figure out I'm not putting out.
    You see... This is what happens when you live in fantasyland too long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    The next guy doesn't want any LDs, he just wants to talk... WTF? IF HE DOESN'T WANT LDS WHY IS HE IN A SC? That's like watching a porn only for the dialogue and skipping through the sex scenes.
    Once upon a time, in a country far far away there were a number of strip clubs. In these clubs, there was no such thing as a lap dance. If you touched the stripper you might get slapped or some big burly dude might haul you out by your neck. You watched the girls take off some clothes and gave them money while they did so. If you were capable of holding their interest, they might sit and chat with you (especially if you bought them drinks). These clubs did a fine business and the customers seemed quite happy with their experience.

    I get that your favorite part is the lap dance. Undoubtedly, that is the majority view. It just isn't the only view. I was happy in strip clubs before they did lap dances, I'm happy in them now that I get lap dances. If clubs of the future offer oral sex as an optional service, there will be future guys saying getting lap dances without BJs is like watching porn for the dialog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    No,... there is no requirement that you have sex with every girl you talk to in a hotel bar... Some of them are just like you - on a business trip - friendly, but not looking for sex.
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    You see... This is what happens when you live in fantasyland too long...
    Well, my personal experience chatting with women alone in hotel bars has been that they expect our interesting and flirtatious conversation to culminate in the usual way. A surprisingly high percentage of attractive women along in hotel bars expect compensation.

    In general, I don't enjoy the nightclub scene as much as strip clubs, but I would agree that you can have similar experiences there as well. In Vegas, the VIP hosts will ensure that I have pretty much the same experience as a stripclub, minus the lap dances. They will arrange for pretty women to hang out at our table and they have a pretty good idea of my type. Hali Tendler is my go-to girl in town, but there are plenty of others. I don't find quite the same scene elsewhere in the country, but I will freely admin my nightclub expertise is low.

    Now that I think about it, the existence of these VIP hosts and the associated scene kind of proves my point. Essentially, these are people who arrange for drinks and conversation with beautiful scantily clad women who (generally!) don't do lap dances. It generally costs a good deal more than strip clubs and people seem very happy to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I'm not saying they are lonely, pathetic losers... I'm saying they can become lonely, pathetic losers by relying too much on the SC and letting it take the place of real socializing... Look, its not easy to stay attractive and charming... You get past 30s and you gain weight, don't keep up with the latest styles, etc... It takes work to stay fit, look good, dress trendy, keep up with the interesting topics of the day, develop your "game", keep a cool "crib", be charming to the younger ladies, etc... So, a guy could say - fuck all that hard work, I'll just let myself get fat, not worry about the clothes I wear or my "crib", not try so hard to impress girls with my wit and humor... I'll just pay hot dancers to talk to me...
    Gaining weight, not being up to date with the latest fashions, not having a super stylish house, not having a fantastic "game" sounds GREAT to me. As a woman, that metrosexual trying too hard bullshit is the biggest turn off for me. Ever. So is the word "crib". MTV uses that word. No one else, even ironically.

    Being a little overweight, or underweight or not so toned, having an individual style in clothing and homeware, and not trying so hard, doesn't make someone a PL or negatively affect their social lives - they have better things to do, like, get on with their social lives that involve people deeper than a puddle in the desert. I'd call someone that tries that hard a PL, personally, and have yet to even consider being friends with anyone that finds trendy clothing important to their personal development. Does that limit my friend pool? Not a jot.


    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    You ladies say it yourselves --- the SC provides a fantasy... Fantasies are fun, but a guy needs to have real social interaction with women.
    And talking to strippers isn't real interaction? Or are strippers not real women? Or do people that talk to strippers ONLY talk to strippers and no one else? I'm not sure where you're going with that. It could equally be said that those getting lapdances need real affection from a woman, real sensuality from a woman.

    I'm just confused by this supposed link between wanting to talk to women that are strippers, and not talking to women that aren't. Are you trying to say that guys that get LDs don't get any kind of ass OTC? That they should step up their "game" and stop being PLs and get some real women to spend their time with? Seriously, help me out here.

    Is someone a PL when they buy a takeaway instead of making dinner? I mean, surely that's not real food, and maybe they should learn to cook.

    Or maybe they just want a takeaway and regardless of how wonderfully they can cook, and how they get less food for their money from the local Taco Bell or whatever, they want a takeaway. This getting through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post
    Gaining weight, not being up to date with the latest fashions, not having a super stylish house, not having a fantastic "game" sounds GREAT to me. As a woman, that metrosexual trying too hard bullshit is the biggest turn off for me.
    Metrosexual is gay (I'm sure this will offend someone and I'll acquire a new opponent on this thread - bring it on...)

    Metrosexual and fat ugly slob are not the only two options... A man needs to play sport or visit the gym once in a while and eat semi-healthy to avoid obesity,... and he needs to stay somewhat up to date with high culture and pop culture, so he doesn't become a social dinosaur. (I listen to talk shows on the radio, like NPR, but once in a while I'll tune in to a cool music station, just so I know what new music is out there.)

    Once in a while, he needs to visit an upscale department store and learn how to match a shirt and slacks... I am the complete anti-thesis of a Metrosexual, but I do make my semi-annual visits to Macys, Dillards and Neiman Marcus because new clothes just don't walk from the store to my house... (Oh, by the way, they've got gorgeous sales girls at Neiman Marcus that provide you free convo, hang out with you, and compliment you on how you look in the clothes you try on, until you're done shopping.)

    "Crib" -- I was being facetious. Maybe you like "pad" better. You can say anything you want, but I've lived in places that hurt my chances of getting laid... and now I live in a place that is very conducive to getting laid. (It's not super-extravagant, but it is very clean, modern, comfortable and full of well-organized interesting stuff.)

    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post
    And talking to strippers isn't real interaction? Or are strippers not real women? Or do people that talk to strippers ONLY talk to strippers and no one else? I'm not sure where you're going with that. It could equally be said that those getting lapdances need real affection from a woman, real sensuality from a woman.
    Again, I was just saying what dancers say over and over on this forum -- that the custie/dancer interaction is a fantasy. "Fantasy" means not real. The hot body grinding on me is real, but the interaction is fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post
    I'm just confused by this supposed link between wanting to talk to women that are strippers, and not talking to women that aren't. Are you trying to say that guys that get LDs don't get any kind of ass OTC? That they should step up their "game" and stop being PLs and get some real women to spend their time with? Seriously, help me out here.
    There's some confusion here... My comments are concerning guys that only go to the SC to pay dancers to chat with them and not for LDs.

    I understand the thrill of going to the SC to get LDs and then spending time in convo with the lovely ladies... I don't get the guy that just wants to chat... It seems to me that he is lonely... (I'm not saying this to offend anyone, its just my opinion.)

    I don't pay to chat, I can strike up a conversation with anybody... I pay for you to dance for me (high contact) and our conversation is just a big added bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Metrosexual is gay (I'm sure this will offend someone and I'll acquire a new opponent on this thread - bring it on...)

    1. "Metrosexual" is an appearance trend. It has nothing to do with sexuality.

    2. Feeling the need to point out that you think it means someone is "gay" shows that you are homophobic and/or closed minded.

    3. It's not about me being "offended" by the above statement. It's about my thinking that sort of statement is childish. I can disagree with an opinion without being "offended" by it. I personally couldn't give two shits about the term "metrosexual". I just feel the need to call out homophobia whenever I see/hear it. Simple as that.

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    ^^ Sorry Pretty_Penny, you're right... I didn't meant to use "gay" in a homophobic way...
    I'm not homophobic... I don't pass any judgment on gay men... and I think lesbians are awesome!
    I should have said Metrosexual is silly and unmanly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Metrosexual is gay (I'm sure this will offend someone and I'll acquire a new opponent on this thread - bring it on...)

    Metrosexual and fat ugly slob are not the only two options... A man needs to play sport or visit the gym once in a while and eat semi-healthy to avoid obesity,... and he needs to stay somewhat up to date with high culture and pop culture, so he doesn't become a social dinosaur. (I listen to talk shows on the radio, like NPR, but once in a while I'll tune in to a cool music station, just so I know what new music is out there.)

    Once in a while, he needs to visit an upscale department store and learn how to match a shirt and slacks... I am the complete anti-thesis of a Metrosexual, but I do make my semi-annual visits to Macys, Dillards and Neiman Marcus because new clothes just don't walk from the store to my house... (Oh, by the way, they've got gorgeous sales girls at Neiman Marcus that provide you free convo, hang out with you, and compliment you on how you look in the clothes you try on, until you're done shopping.)

    "Crib" -- I was being facetious. Maybe you like "pad" better. You can say anything you want, but I've lived in places that hurt my chances of getting laid... and now I live in a place that is very conducive to getting laid. (It's not super-extravagant, but it is very clean, modern, comfortable and full of well-organized interesting stuff.)
    And to some of us out there, that is trying way, way too hard, in a silly and unmanly way - not to mention unbecoming.

    I never knew a man that HAD to go to the gym/play sport, or he'd get obese, other than those that were actually ill, or ate sugar from the bag all day. Nor have I known fat people have less of an awesome social life simply due to their weight.

    I never knew a man with a failing social life because he wasn't up to date on high culture and pop culture - two things that can socially be extremely irritating to hear about. I've also never met anyone that thinks music played on 'cool radio stations' is new, but I'll let that slide.

    Never known anyone to suffer a bad social life for never having been in an upscale department store, either - and clothes actually do walk right out the store and into your house if you go online and have them delivered. Maybe this is all down to me being British and us being very different culturally, who knows?


    I am sure your collection of 'well-organized interesting stuff' is very conducive to your sex life, but other men's collections of bellybutton lint might well be just as conducive depending on the woman.


    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    There's some confusion here... My comments are concerning guys that only go to the SC to pay dancers to chat with them and not for LDs.

    I understand the thrill of going to the SC to get LDs and then spending time in convo with the lovely ladies... I don't get the guy that just wants to chat... It seems to me that he is lonely... (I'm not saying this to offend anyone, its just my opinion.)

    I don't pay to chat, I can strike up a conversation with anybody
    Anyone can talk, if they have vocal cords.

    The issue seems to be that you are incapable of accepting that other people are interested in things you are not, and are not interested in things you are. If this were a matter of food, I doubt you would be so confused about how people could possibly like things you don't, or how they could dislike what you do.

    The entire thing boils down to the fact that some people desire to talk to strippers, and not get LDs. Maybe they don't enjoy LDs, would like to see naked women but not touch, maybe, they just want to talk to a stripper. In person. Effectively, isn't that why every male poster is here? To talk to and about strippers? Some people like to do that in real life, with tits in the room. Is that genuinely so confusing for such a self professed man of culture?

    All it says about a man's social life, is that it lacks strippers. Anything else is pure projection and preconception.

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    I've paid for conversation. I've paid for grinding and other high mileage. I guess I don't get the contradiction.

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    I've paid for conversation. I've paid for grinding and other high mileage. I guess I don't get the contradiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I'm not saying they are lonely, pathetic losers...

    Then what is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Are there really that many sad and lonely guys out there willing to pay a girl just for convo?
    and this:

    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ... I don't get the guy that just wants to chat... It seems to me that he is lonely... (I'm not saying this to offend anyone, its just my opinion.)
    How many guys have paid you for conversation? Is it possible that those of us who have met many men who will pay for it, might be better able to judge whether they were pathetic and lonely?


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    Erotic entertainment is commonplace... Everybody is on the internet downloading porn... Getting a lap dance is just erotic entertainment (unless you become addicted to the SC)... There's nothing PL about it, unless you spend too much money or "fall in love" with the dancers...

    I admit I am lonely and pathetic when I'm in the office -- It's just me and a stack of legal files to go through... So, I'd much rather be on this forum trading wits with smart women like you... But, I don't spend my free time on this forum... Also,.... this forum is FREE...
    The people who see you as pathetic don't know or care about any of this. They have misjudged you because they can't understand why you'd do something that they'd never do. You are misjudging other guys because they do something you'd never do.


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    Here is the part I don't get --- I'm paying you money... I can get both convo and lap dances.........

    ......WTF? IF HE DOESN'T WANT LDS WHY IS HE IN A SC? That's like watching a porn only for the dialogue and skipping through the sex scenes.
    Not everybody wants lapdances. Some guys are shy or find them too frustrating. Some guys are in a relationship and feel that getting a lapdance crosses a line. There are even some guys who enjoy hanging out drinking and joking around more than getting dances. Shocking, right? The idea that other people might not feel exactly the same as you about everything?

    Also, it is nothing like watching porn for the dialogue. A conversation with me is about 3896598365 times more interesting than any porno bullshit.
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    I am sure your collection of 'well-organized interesting stuff' is very conducive to your sex life, but other men's collections of bellybutton lint might well be just as conducive depending on the woman.
    Haahaha, I do loves me some bellybutton lint.
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    Haahaha, I do loves me some bellybutton lint.
    I personally cannot deal with it. The last time I was in contact with bellybutton lint I was dragged away, screaming.

    WHY IS IT BLUE!?

    ALWAYS, ALWAYS BLUE!?

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    I'll talk to you for half an hour about this great book I'm reading. PayPal me a dollar?
    Sure I will talk to you although I'm confident you would out talk me Your screen name is goofy so I suspect you are someone who deserted us a while back but have seen the light.

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    Sure I will talk to you although I'm confident you would out talk me Your screen name is goofy so I suspect you are someone who deserted us a while back but have seen the light.

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    And yes, I out talk pretty much everyone if it's a subject I like/am passionate about. Or find interesting. Or... know anything about. I had to get a cell plan with less minutes than I wanted, or I'd spend all goddamn night on the phone yakking away about utter crap.

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    Who's us? People that take themselves seriously?
    Sort of makes my point.

    I was trying to be nice trying to figure out who you were previously.

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    Sort of makes my point.

    I was trying to be nice trying to figure out who you were previously.

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    A conversation with me is about 3896598365 times more interesting than any porno bullshit.
    I am completely convinced of the truth of this statement.

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    Oh, by the way, they've got gorgeous sales girls at Neiman Marcus that provide you free convo, hang out with you, and compliment you on how you look in the clothes you try on, until you're done shopping.
    The conversation isn't free, which you could prove to yourself pretty easily. You should look into a personal shopper. Best money I ever spent. She isn't tied to any store, so she doesn't need to lie to you about how good you look in any particular item. She'll learn your style, what you are comfortable in, what looks best on you and the good ones are geniuses at it. My girl sends me stuff out of the blue when she sees something that she knows will look good on me outside of our regular scheduled visits. I actually think I spend less in total than when I picked my own stuff because any hottie who cornered me could sell me stuff before. It is a ton more time efficient as well.

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    ^^^ Thanks for the suggestion. Again, I don't care much for clothes. I shop when I have to and don't get any pleasure out of it. I like the girls at the Neiman Marcus here. There's one in particular that knows my tastes well now and makes recommendations, without hustling me. She also knows I detest paying retail, so she'll call me and give me the heads up on their sales. I do most of my shopping during the after-Christmas sale,... best bargains of the year.

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    And to some of us out there, that is trying way, way too hard, in a silly and unmanly way - not to mention unbecoming.
    Well, I'm in a LTR now, so I'm not "trying way too hard" right now... But, when I'm unattached,... yes... I try very hard to get laid as often as possible with the hottest girls possible... What guy doesn't try his best to get laid by the hottest girl within his reach?... If you know anything at all about advertisement, you should know that "sex sells" and guys will buy anything that they think is going to improve their sexual appeal... whether it be a brand of beer or a Jaguar sportscar...

    All guys try way too hard. The trick is to act like you don't give a shit... The goal is to get laid by the hottest girl... We plan a seduction strategy, execute it, and then make her believe that the sex just happened naturally,... that it was "meant to be".

    Yes, chasing tail can be hard work...

    Anyway, staying fit is healthy for me and having nice clothes is also good for my business image... so, what I do to impress women also benefits me in many other ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Well, I'm in a LTR now, so I'm not "trying way too hard" right now... But, when I'm unattached,... yes... I try very hard to get laid as often as possible with the hottest girls possible... What guy doesn't try his best to get laid by the hottest girl within his reach?... If you know anything at all about advertisement, you should know that "sex sells" and guys will buy anything that they think is going to improve their sexual appeal... whether it be a brand of beer or a Jaguar sportscar...

    All guys try way too hard. The trick is to act like you don't give a shit... The goal is to get laid by the hottest girl... We plan a seduction strategy, execute it, and then make her believe that the sex just happened naturally,... that it was "meant to be".

    Yes, chasing tail can be hard work...

    Anyway, staying fit is healthy for me and having nice clothes is also good for my business image... so, what I do to impress women also benefits me in many other ways.
    Sorry Jack, you know I love ya, but I disagree. Maybe with civilian girls, but not strippahs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    All guys try way too hard. The trick is to act like you don't give a shit... The goal is to get laid by the hottest girl... We plan a seduction strategy, execute it, and then make her believe that the sex just happened naturally,... that it was "meant to be".

    Yes, chasing tail can be hard work...

    Anyway, staying fit is healthy for me and having nice clothes is also good for my business image... so, what I do to impress women also benefits me in many other ways.
    This is all fascinating stuff but, like most of what you have posted on this thread, it has nothing to do with the dynamic of a strip club. You need to go find a site about singles looking for dates ITRW and spread your wisdom there. It just doesn't apply to how and why men interact with strippers when they are at work, you know, stripping...
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    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
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    Sophia_Starina is a sensible stripper...Naked all the way.....
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    Double team! 2 latinas with big tits!!

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