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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    Sorry Jack, you know I love ya, but I disagree. Maybe with civilian girls, but not strippahs.
    As long as you love me, you can disagree with me about anything... We'll work through it.

    What I meant is that a girl wants everything to be "perfect", but she also want it to be "natural"... She doesn't want to know that the guy is trying so hard to get get her into bed... that everything he does is deliberately and carefully calculated to achieve this objective...

    (Note for you people that take me too seriously: I'm being a little facetious.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    This is all fascinating stuff but, like most of what you have posted on this thread, it has nothing to do with the dynamic of a strip club.
    Yes it does... My point is that trying to impress and chat up hot young girls in a real life setting is challenging, requires courage and the ability to cope with a lot of rejection,... so its easy to see why some men would forego the effort and rejection... and pay hot dancers to chat with them.

    This is good as an ego boost when you really need it and have no where else to go... and its good if you want some company once-in-a-while and don't feel like going through the bar BS... but, like any crutch,... if you overrely on this, soon you won't be able to remember when was the last time you approached a beautiful woman without having money in your hands to tip her.

    I didn't mean to offend so many people... and I'm being made to repeat the same thing over and over... so I'll stop now... If you want to pay dancers to chat with you... more power to you.

    And I never criticised the dancers for taking money for convo... Their time in the SC is valuable. Whether the custie wants LDs or only convo, the dancer is entitle to get her $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    As long as you love me, you can disagree with me about anything... We'll work through it.

    What I meant is that a girl wants everything to be "perfect", but she also want it to be "natural"... She doesn't want to know that the guy is trying so hard to get get her into bed...
    Eh, I can buy that to an extent. For me, I can see right through it, so I prefer to lead the way. Usually if I am interested, there's no mistaking it.

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    ^^^ Okay, Med,... you lead the way and I'll follow you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ^^^ Okay, Med,... you lead the way and I'll follow you...
    Hey, J happily shares me with other guys he thinks are cool you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Yes it does... My point is that trying to impress and chat up hot young girls in a real life setting is challenging, requires courage and the ability to cope with a lot of rejection,... so its easy to see why some men would forego the effort and rejection... and pay hot dancers to chat with them.
    What you continue to ignore is the fact that a very large number of men who go to strip clubs and spend lots of money on strippers, either for dances, convo or both, are married men. They are not interested in normal forms of social interaction with women outside of the strip club environment. They are looking for a little NSA fun and they are willing to pay for it. This is actually the customer that many dancers prefer because they are not looking for a girlfriend OTC.

    Continuing to insist that going to a strip club and paying for attention is somehow a foolish or fruitless endeavor ignores the reason that most men choose to do it.
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    ^^^ I grant you that married men or men in LTR are in a different situation than the single unattached guy...

    Okay, I just keep picturing this:

    Smoking-Hot Dancer in Sexy Stripper Oufit: Hello, my name is...
    Guy: Hi, I'm name is...
    Dancer: Blah, blah, blah...
    Guy: Blah, blah, blah...
    Dancer (sensually touching the guy on the shoulder or arm): So, you want a dance?
    Guy: No,... but don't leave... I'll pay you to talk to me.

    I just don't get it... Let's just leave it at that... It makes no sense to keep beating a dead horse... I respect the guy the pays for convo and rejects dances, but I just don't get it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    Hey, J happily shares me with other guys he thinks are cool you know...
    When you say "shares",... he doesn't need to be in the room, does he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    When you say "shares",... he doesn't need to be in the room, does he?
    Depends on what sort of mood he's in, honestly.

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    ^^^ Call me when he is very pissed off and not interested in joining us.

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    ^^ That'd actually be if he was feeling very indulgent. And he doesnt participate as much as supervises.

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    ^^ That's cool... When can we get started?

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    ^^ Hahaha. You have to let us wine and dine you first! Muahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ^^^ I grant you that married men or men in LTR are in a different situation than the single unattached guy...

    Okay, I just keep picturing this:

    Smoking-Hot Dancer in Sexy Stripper Oufit: Hello, my name is...
    Guy: Hi, I'm name is...
    Dancer: Blah, blah, blah...
    Guy: Blah, blah, blah...
    Dancer (sensually touching the guy on the shoulder or arm): So, you want a dance?
    Guy: No,... but don't leave... I'll pay you to talk to me.

    I just don't get it... Let's just leave it at that... It makes no sense to keep beating a dead horse... I respect the guy the pays for convo and rejects dances, but I just don't get it...
    No one has ever said "I'll pay you to talk to me"

    ..... perhaps the issue is that you don't "Get it" because you keep thinking

    "just to talk to him"

    when that is not exactly how the customer paying for conversation feels most of the time.

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    ^^ IME, they usually say something more like, "Let's just hang out and I'll take care of you".

    I agree that guys don't feel like they're paying for conversation, and usually they aren't. There's often gambling, megatouch, pool, throwing mardi gras beads off the balcony or some other kind of activity to go along with the conversation. It's more like they're giving me the money I would have made working so that I can not work.

    Usually, these guys have a lot of money. They understand the value of my time at work, because their own time at work is so valuable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    ^^^ I grant you that married men or men in LTR are in a different situation than the single unattached guy...

    Okay, I just keep picturing this:

    Smoking-Hot Dancer in Sexy Stripper Oufit: Hello, my name is...
    Guy: Hi, I'm name is...
    Dancer: Blah, blah, blah...
    Guy: Blah, blah, blah...
    Dancer (sensually touching the guy on the shoulder or arm): So, you want a dance?
    Guy: No,... but don't leave... I'll pay you to talk to me.

    I just don't get it... Let's just leave it at that... It makes no sense to keep beating a dead horse... I respect the guy the pays for convo and rejects dances, but I just don't get it...

    as a dancer pointed out earlier, its often talk plus contact.

    what works really in many of the dozen of so clubs i vsit up out here which tend to be upscale, contact on the high side types of clubs which business types might drop by early afternoon, is when a dancer approaches, instead of accepting a wanna dance inquiry,or even before she offers it and engages in conversation, you just slip her a 20 dollar bill, and then get a sense if whether a bit of contact along with conversation is doable, like her on your lap or her turned around with you hands around her waist, and maybe if she really is beautiful you are pointing it out, maybe to a colleague sitting next you, or some random patron at the bar who joins in the conversation, and maybe other dancer join in for a bit of converstation, it can very enjoyable in a social way, and i find this aspect one of the most most fun things about clubs.

    I figure 20 bucks forr 5 minutes, and if i'm still partly driving the conversation and there still any contact, i' m slipping her more money, and i am always very aware of the fact while i am there for fun, they are there to work and make money, so i am not going to tie them up with dollars flowing.

    and by the way on a side note and talk about using broad brush strokes,, not all of us who post in here are "losers" by any conventional measurement, and often the only real qualitative difference on the physical attractiveness scale between most of the dancers we pay money to at a strip club and women we either date, once dated, or used to date before certain certain complexities made that not possible - ends up to be basically a 20 yrs age difference, and believe me we are well aware that hot 20 somethingss consider any guy over 35 as old, no matter how much in shape he might be and no matter what else he brings to the table, so i find it amsuing to stereoptype us when others stereotype strippers on this site, and get blasted for doing so.

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    ^^Dude, you need to turn some of those commas into periods. The run on sentences have become run on paragraphs.
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    My pay-for-convo guys have typically been relatively attractive guys actually, albeit, as WC said, older. Ugly guys are gonna take the dances and contact any chance they get.

    Handsome older gentlemen with money to burn can get sexual acts performed in various contexts. Sometimes they just don't want the damn lapdance.

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    On a rare occasion I've dropped a small amount of cash on a girl for sitting with me, but it was usually those times when whatever she said got me jabbering and it went on too long so I felt like I was taking up her time .. and .. I had no intention of getting a dance with her. She wasn't my type, but she was interesting.

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    To get back on topic:

    I actually did pay for conversation with a dancer tonight. Now, this was after I had already bought 4 dances from her and then suggested "Hey why don't we just hang out here for a bit" before buying another lap dance...only instead of having her give me a dance I just had her hang around and talk to me for about it. I paid for 2 more dances that was just conversation and when the conversation went over (she actually ended up talking more then I did, mostly about her life as a lawyer back in Scotland) I tipped her a bit.

    She did decline when I offered to get a drink with her though. Maybe she thought I was trying to set her up for a OTC? Or maybe dancers expect to be paid for that too...not really sure.

    While I wouldn't pay just exclusively for conversation, I will glady pay for both. As we all OBVIOUSLY know on here, SCs are in the business of selling a role-playing fantasy relationship. Relationships both involve the physical side and the mental side. If I'm going to pay for an artificial relationship for the next 30 minutes or whatever, I'd like to be stimulated BOTH physically and mentally ideally. If I ever was going to take a girl to the CR, she would definitely have to be able to hold up her end of the conversation as well. I sure as hell don't want to be paying for a hour of time and then end up just sitting in awkward silence between lap dances.

    Oh, and nothing wrong with dressing nice and staying in shape. Dressing at least somewhat nicely is a way to show that you give a shit about yourself; same with going to the gym. I don't get listening keeping up with popular music though. If anything, I would think a 25 year old listening to a 38 year old talk to her about Lady Gaga would be even stranger then just him talking his job or whatever.
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    Perhaps she didn't accept the drink because she simply does not drink...on the job, or at all, and wanted you to save your money, since she already knew you didn't need to get drunk as part of the fantasy.

    Yes, that's very popular among custies. Many won't get dances from girls who do not drink, or are not "intoxicated", particularly in behavior. Easy thing to fake though. Gawd I still hate those guys because I know exactly why they want to dance with drunk strippers.

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    I will admit, I actually did have an ulterior motive. I wanted to speak to her longer and I was hoping that paying for both of our drinks would keep the conversation going for a bit more. She had already gone over a song and I thought this would extend our chat. Well she turned it down for whatever reason so I just gave her a tip, said my good byes and took off.
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    That's because strippers work for money, not for drinks. Doesn't mean you won't find a lazy one, or a poor hustler, who will stick around for drinks. But don't expect it.

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    I wanted to pop-in with my experience - I'm one of those young (26), unattached guys who has ended up spending more money on conversations than lap dances. Just wanted to throw out my perspective on things on why this happens.

    I don't think of myself meeting a hot dancer and wanting to go "have a conversation" in the VIP room - I certainly don't think that way. But if a girl approaches me and I enjoy having a conversation with her for a while (a rarity for me - I have a weird sense of humor) more than I'd feel about getting a lap dance, then we'll go in the back and chat instead of the normal lap dance. (There are plenty of dancers at the club I frequent who I'd just go get lap dances from instead of chatting them up)

    Really, I go to clubs to forget about the stresses in my life. Conversation works just as well as lap dances in achieving that, and I realize these girls are working a job, so if I want to find escapism in conversation, then I pay for it. The girls I enjoy talking to at SCs tend to be wiser and more mature than other girls I've met, so I pay for that scarcity - conversation. This isn't really different than middle-aged men paying for the scarcity in their lives - hot women fawning over them.

    (Fortunately meeting twenty-somethings is still something that's wide open for me in real life.)

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    We hear about horror stories regarding customer behavior during lap dances all the time on here. I was wondering if there are any (hopefully amusing) similar stories regarding customers during conversations. Just like how some dancers don't like to be touched a certain ways, what are things that you guy would consider to be improper behavior from a custie during conversation? There's the obvious ones like trying to get extras or a OTC meeting but what are the less obvious ones?
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