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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    That's a little strange. I never talk about other regulars in front of a regular because I dont want my good regulars to think that I thin of them as just another customer.
    Is that because you don't think of them as just customers or because you don't want them knowing you think that?
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    What a bummer, I had no ideas the girls had such low opinions of us regulars. This board is ruining my suspension of disbelief, lulz...

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    My regulars on average would last no more than 3-6 encounters, no matter what the length of time was between them. Sometimes a month, sometimes 2 years. I wasn't willing to let anyone think that I loved them or needed them in any way.

    Perhaps I was wrong in being to independent or honest.

    But that's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Is that because you don't think of them as just customers or because you don't want them knowing you think that?
    I can't answer for Jai, but I can honestly say I get confused sometimes. I guess I am such a good actress at times I fool myself. Especially if they are cool, good looking etc. I then start to think I don't think of them of a customer, but the test is always... would I be shitty if the $$$ stopped? And the answer is 99.99% of the time yes I would be shitty if they weren't paying. Hence they are just customers that I like! My favourite customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia View Post
    My regulars on average would last no more than 3-6 encounters, no matter what the length of time was between them. Sometimes a month, sometimes 2 years. I wasn't willing to let anyone think that I loved them or needed them in any way.

    Perhaps I was wrong in being to independent or honest.

    But that's ok. I can proudly say that I retired never having given fuel to the likes of a BEM.
    Once again, I notice you prefer not to address the question I asked, but rather the fact that I asked it.

    You must have been a hell of a dancer if regulars lasted a whole 3-6 encounters. No wonder you're retired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Once again, I notice you prefer not to address the question I asked, but rather the fact that I asked it.
    Well, you didn't ask KS the question BEM, why would you expect her to answer it? Since we are on a chat board however, she is certainly allowed to comment on it...

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    You must have been a hell of a dancer if regulars only lasted 3-6 encounters. No wonder you're retired.
    If you know anything about strippers BEM you know that they don't always count on regulars to bank during a shift. If a club is busy any talented dancer can make good money without having to sit around with a guy for a half an hour massaging his ego before she gets dances from him. Your friends never told you this?

    Quite often regulars are more trouble than they are worth. A guy shows up and spends for a few weeks or a few months but then he starts making more demands on a dancer's time. Next, he starts asking her for OTC which she is not interested in. Other guys will get the idea that, because they come in regularly, they are somehow entitled to get discounts for a gal's time. Last but not least, there are the guys who try to put themselves into the "friend" zone where they think that they can just come in, sit at the bar and take up a dancer's time without any compensation at all. To top it off, these guys are just as whiny and needy as the regulars who spend money...

    By the way, not that KS needs me to defend her but she put herself through school and found a job in her chosen field BEM. In other words, she got what she wanted out of dancing and got out. Do any of your friends want to dance for the rest of their lives? I think we both know the answer to that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    If you know anything about strippers BEM you know that they don't always count on regulars to bank during a shift. If a club is busy any talented dancer can make good money without having to sit around with a guy for a half an hour massaging his ego before she gets dances from him. Your friends never told you this?

    Quite often regulars are more trouble than they are worth. A guy shows up and spends for a few weeks or a few months but then he starts making more demands on a dancer's time. Next, he starts asking her for OTC which she is not interested in. Other guys will get the idea that, because they come in regularly, they are somehow entitled to get discounts for a gal's time. Last but not least, there are the guys who try to put themselves into the "friend" zone where they think that they can just come in, sit at the bar and take up a dancer's time without any compensation at all. To top it off, these guys are just as whiny and needy as the regulars who spend money...
    This is on the mark. Even when it was slow, I never sat with a guy for a half hour without getting money. As for regulars, some of them were more trouble than they were worth, especially if it was busy. I've said this before, but of all the regulars I ever had, all but one were only my regulars because they gave me money. A few stopped giving me money because they thought we were "friends" but I stopped chatting with them. At the club they only meant money to me. They weren't my off club friends nor would most of them be. The one exception is the guy I am dating/friends with. Even in that case, we didn't start hanging out together until I left the club.

    Btw, I never told other customers about each other. That would be in bad taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Once again, I notice you prefer not to address the question I asked, but rather the fact that I asked it.

    You must have been a hell of a dancer if regulars lasted a whole 3-6 encounters. No wonder you're retired.
    What question were you asking me, I did not see it. The reason that my regulars didn't last long is because I'm pretty awesome at getting guys to spend many thousands of dollars on me in the initial few encounters.

    I also bounced around a lot of different clubs, and never kept a schedule in a single club. I had a business phone for regulars that I didn't routinely check. And I never told customers I would date them or go home with them to fuck (unless a very hefty some was offered, on a few occasions.)

    As usual, you don't know shit. And I've been mean to you so I have to take it if I'm going to dole it out to you, I understand.

    Actually, 3-6 visits is a pretty average amount of time for a regular shelf life, ask the girls. Certainly some will stay longer. But in my situation, bouncing around clubs, not offering to play mind games, and being very effective at causing custies to part with more of their money in a short time...that's how I worked my business.

    I wasn't interested in stripping for the long-term, customer relations, or even really making the customers happy. I wanted to maximize my profit, and that's how I did it.

    Stripping is unique in that way. A successful stripper does NOT need to have regulars to do very well.

    Also, yoda is 100% correct. Stripping allowed me to get an undergraduate and graduate degree, travel around the world, start my own business, and put me in a good position for a professional sales job in a highly esteemed and respected field when I was through with it. Sounds like a pretty good deal, right? Plus, I got to be lazy, have fun, party, and fuck a lot of hot, sexy ladies!

    Money, a profession, travel, independence, and kinky sex experiences are things I value and love. Those all happened without me ever once relying on a single regular. If they came by and spent, awesome. If they didn't, I would hustle each and every person in the club until I could get one to give me all of their monies. Then..hit the ATM.

    I've never gone home from a club shift with less than $150 in my pocket..and that was for a shift less than 3 hours, when the girls far outnumbered the guys to the point of ridiculous.

    Yoda, I wish I could send you more thank you thank you thank you's!!!!


    Edit to add: I seldomly stripped full-time over my decade of doing it. It gave me less oppotunity to build regulars. I had other sources of income and didn't want to really be "well known" at one club or other, as I had reasons to want to maintain my privacy and anonymity. I've never had a regular go psycho on me or stalk me. And most strippers I know who rely on regulars have been through something like that at one time or another.

    There ya go.
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    Another thread in club chat also had me thinking: Another reason I never made the effort to maintain long-term regulars..I danced in Houston for MANY years, and regulars have very high mileage expectations. Fortunately there are enough travelers and occasional SC visitors that don't "know the deal" and will pay for non-sexual acts. Thus, although I would have made more money maintaining regulars down there, it would have been for illegal sexual services that I did not feel comfortable with.

    See Bem, there are many ways to skin a cat.

    And I certainly had a few regulars that saw me 100+ times, or over 2+ years. Just not the average. Noting that would have skewed the data.

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    Three to six visits total hardly constitutes a regular IMO and that of those I know. It takes at least that many to even be considered one, and then the practice has to continue. I wasn't criticizing you or any dancer with my comment, only what you wrote and the fact that you also chose to initiate a personal attack, one which required moderation. In fact, Ive said very little critical of dancers in any of my comments anywhere on this board. Customers? That's a different story because I hear complaints about them all the time.
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    ^ I tend to disagree. If a guy comes in 3-6 times and only dances with you... he is your regular. I have a customer who doesn't come in that often. He has come in maybe 5 times in the last 12 months, but every time comes straight to me and books me for 1-2 hours. I would definitely consider him a regular... one that doesn't come very often though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Three to six visits total hardly constitutes a regular IMO and that of those I know. It takes at least that many to even be considered one, and then the practice has to continue.
    I respectfully disagree. You know what you know as a male industry outsider who sits in the club during slow times on the day shift. I don't care what your friends tell you, your area works different than my area. The SC culture is inconsistent and not all strippers are made the same.

    I liked to travel to different cities during big conventions/sporting events, work 12 hour shifts, pulling as much money out of as many men as possible. When I worked in my own city, I cherry picked the best day and night shifts at a couple of different clubs around the region, and worked those. No scheduling here. It all works out the same financially.

    My style was a bit more physically ardous, but less mentally stressful.

    Why, in god's name, does it take more than 6 visits to make a regular? A regular is a guy who visits you more than two times. The #1 reason most men go to the SC is for sexual variety, NOT to try and form a friendship or relationship with the dancers. Although that type is quite common, I do not care for them, they stress me out. Hence, I was very happy to let a regular move along once he got his fill of me. My style was very much, "wham bam thank you ma'am" versus..."oooh, I'm sooo in love with you, let's kiss in the VIP. Oh, also can you pay my utility bill...I'm sooooooooooooo broke! giggle, giigle"

    The only reason guys didn't see me more often is that by the 6th (or so) time, I'd have bounced to a different club, and didn't give them my contact information to follow up.

    Bad business decision? Possibly. Did it affect my earnings? Not really, because I would always find a new crew of admirers at the new club...ones that were still shiny and new, and would spend $800 a night on me over 6 visits versus $200 a night on me over 24 visits. 6 of one/half dozen of the other, as they say.

    Am I making sense yet? I'm not saying that my M.O. is the best, or that it would work right now given the state of the economy and the sex industry.

    But I agree with you, that 6 months is a good timeline for a regular. I just tended to remember the guys who spent more money. I'm more down with the guys who came in once a month and blew a big load of cash. Looking back, I've also had the $100 a visit, every week, for 2 years, type of guys too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie_tinydancer View Post
    ^ I tend to disagree. If a guy comes in 3-6 times and only dances with you... he is your regular. I have a customer who doesn't come in that often. He has come in maybe 5 times in the last 12 months, but every time comes straight to me and books me for 1-2 hours. I would definitely consider him a regular... one that doesn't come very often though.
    Agreed. I once had a guy I considered a regular though he only came in once a month. I had another one who only came in on Fridays. They didn't come in all the time because they had lives, but yes they were regulars. Like you said, if a guy only comes in to see one girl, he's her regular.

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    The shelf life of a regular depends (IMHO) on two factors: (a) the motivation of the regular and (b) how mercenary the dancer is.

    Regulars can have many motivations, ranging from a genuine ITC friendship with the dancer that keeps him buying dances from her, the desire to keep coming back to a dancer that gives high mileage dances, or just simple infatuation with the dancer.

    Some dancers consider regulars too high maintenance to persist with for long, others will keep the regular coming in as much as possible.

    So at one end of the spectrum, you could have a dancer who rapidly becomes disenchanted with a regular that's infatuated with her. At the other end of the spectrum, you could could have a dancer and customer who've grown comfortable with each other and have drifted into the habit of seeing each other once or two a months over a period of several years.

    The regulars with the longest shelf life seem to be those who become infatuated with a very money orientated dancer who promises all sorts of delights for tomorrow - always tomorrow. In that case the regular might as well set up a standing order to transfer money from his account to hers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Three to six visits total hardly constitutes a regular IMO and that of those I know.
    A few years ago I met a new dancer at a club. We had a great time one afternoon and I went back to see her a few days later. For about six weeks I went to see her about once a week. Then I stopped.

    I was,for about six weeks, her regular BEM. She told me so on more than one occassion. For the record, she was one of "those you know".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    The regulars with the longest shelf life seem to be those who become infatuated with a very money orientated dancer who promises all sorts of delights for tomorrow - always tomorrow. In that case the regular might as well set up a standing order to transfer money from his account to hers.
    Then on the other hand sometimes a guy just meets a really hot stripper and likes getting dances from her and hanging out...

    My longest running regular customer relationship with a dancer is still going strong with a lady that I have known for about ten years now. I visit her less frequently now than in the past but I go to clubs less in general now than in the past. In ten years I have never asked for OTC (actually I've never asked any dancer) and she has never offered. We do keep in touch by phone, text or email but it is only to say hello, plan a visit or have a good laugh about some of the rather hilarious things that happen to her at work. When I visit we hang out for a while, I will often buy her dinner at the club, we do our dances, I pay her, we hug, and I leave. About half way home I usually get a text from her thanking me for coming to visit. I pay her cash, no bank accounts involved. As I said, she has never promised me anything in the way of OTC possibilities, not even close.

    The fact is I have many long-term regulars and the common thread among all of them is that they never make empty promises. The ones that are OTC friends approached me with the idea and always made good with the offer. The few gals that have tried to reel me in as a reg by promising OTC and then blowing me off didn't last long on my hit parade of regular dance partners...

    It's not all that difficult to develop an honest and friendly business relationship with a dancer as long as you respect her need to earn and don't cause drama with her at the club or in her life. Sounds simple but it's amazing how stupid some guys can be when all of their blood has rushed to their little head...
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    I have a regular I see once or twice a year when he travels to Vegas. I've known him for three years now and I've seen him five times. He spends several thousand dollars when he sees me and he's very nice.

    He is most definitely my regular, regardless of what a customer on stripperweb thinks. He emails me before he travels to make sure that he knows my schedule. If that isn't a regular, then I don't know what the hell is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    It's not all that difficult to develop an honest and friendly business relationship with a dancer as long as you respect her need to earn and don't cause drama with her at the club or in her life. Sounds simple but it's amazing how stupid some guys can be when all of their blood has rushed to their little head...
    Yoda you make a great point but I have found it difficult over the years, not from an intellectual standpoint but from a little head stand point. Thus my exorbitant spending seeking something and my many crashes and burns when things did not turn out to my liking. And sadly, I am barely wiser than I was years ago.

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    What trips me out is when some dancers pin you as their regular, even though you don't necessarily agree. I personally make it a point to not have an ATF, rather I like the variety that a SC offers. Unfortunately, I've had it happen too many times that one dancer, (out of maybe 6 that I've gotten dances from that day), decided that I was "hers" and basically ran off the other dancers on subsequent visits by me. And I usually don't realize it has happened until I start noticing that no girls (except the "possessor") are approaching me now. This type of thing has happened far too many times for my liking.

    Short of making a scene with the "possessor" (which I would never do), what can one do in a situation like this???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    Yoda you make a great point but I have found it difficult over the years, not from an intellectual standpoint but from a little head stand point. Thus my exorbitant spending seeking something and my many crashes and burns when things did not turn out to my liking. And sadly, I am barely wiser than I was years ago.

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    What trips me out is when some dancers pin you as their regular, even though you don't necessarily agree. I personally make it a point to not have an ATF, rather I like the variety that a SC offers. Unfortunately, I've had it happen too many times that one dancer, (out of maybe 6 that I've gotten dances from that day), decided that I was "hers" and basically ran off the other dancers on subsequent visits by me. And I usually don't realize it has happened until I start noticing that no girls (except the "possessor") are approaching me now. This type of thing has happened far too many times for my liking.

    Short of making a scene with the "possessor" (which I would never do), what can one do in a situation like this???
    ^ I get your point but I don't mind giving up variety for a while if I am really attracted to a particular stripper for a time period. Of course, my goal once I get really interested is to bang that stripper (for money of course since I am old and unattractive). It might work out or it might not but it is fun for a while. Over time it goes away hopefully with no hard feelings.

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    What trips me out is when some dancers pin you as their regular, even though you don't necessarily agree...

    ...Short of making a scene with the "possessor" (which I would never do), what can one do in a situation like this???

    This has happened to me on a couple of occasions in a couple of different clubs. In one situation a dancer actually called INS and tried to get another dancer deported!

    Now, I do have favs but I don't lead dancers on. I've shown up at a club and gotten the cold shoulder from a dancer I liked simply because another dancer that I may have spent money on once or twice was trying to chase her off and was either lying about me or what I was spending. Talk about childish behavior...

    I would never start any trouble at the club either. What I generally do is just switch clubs for a while until the BS factor dies down a bit. Fortunately there are a lot of options in my area.
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    Its normal for regulars to only last 3-6 visits many of those visits they choose to drag out over the course of months. 3-6 is more normal for girls who dont feed into the "playing out" of customers or the flat out deceiving thing. Yes ive had a handful for longer-ive also danced 12 years now.

    As far as what we want the men to think or know: the truth of the matter is that not enough men are willing to just give you money to take your clothes off in a club and pay for that time. Many customers/regulars seem to want to believe that the relationship is everything but that. It is not. Friends can happen but, reeeeeaaaally. You are paying for a service and the dancers pretend all the other b.s. because most customers wont pay the big bucks if they dont pretend its everything but them paying you to get naked and talk.

    I mean how much money would a dancer make if she were like "spending time with you is worked into my monthly budget, i only care about the amount of money you spend and the shortest amount of time i can get it in AND i need to squeeze in a couple more guys like you to make my goal so tell me when youre coming in and how long how much you'll spend?" That doesnt turn most guys on, so dancers find more subtle ways to make money and line up custies. Yes, that usually consists of " i enjoyed our time together, youre so refreshing compared to these other custies... when will you be back? I look forward to it. Youre like a great friend that i have sexy fun with. you make my night great ;0)"

    Dancers do create fantasies. Some do it better than others. If i were a custie id leave the pink site alone and just enjoy my time in the SC,lol.

    On a more postive note, ive noticed that the actual bar regulars/SC pros are usually pretty cool and just want a good night out w/ a hot fun girl that they can return at the end of the night,lol. I prefer a SC addict to a love lorn OR friendship starved custie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadencetyme View Post
    On a more postive note, ive noticed that the actual bar regulars/SC pros are usually pretty cool and just want a good night out w/ a hot fun girl that they can return at the end of the night,lol. I prefer a SC addict to a love lorn OR friendship starved custie.
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