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    Question Guys Who Say They Don't Get Dances/ Too Young

    I have been running into two things lately and want to know how to deal with them

    1. I find that sometimes I am too young for a customer. I myself am 25 and often my target is an older gentleman because for the most part I am very mature for my age mentally. I do find though that the other night I had about four customers tell me the would not get a dance due to me being around the same age as their daughter ( eek!) I politely then asked what type of dancer they would be interested in and also if they would mind compensating me to go find her. Was this the right thing to do? Any suggestions? Was it just someone being a time waster?

    2. I will sit with a client and press his friendship, authority and/or reason why button and he/she will tell me " Oh you are gorgeous but I don't get dances." or " I just came to enjoy the stage show" sometimes followed by a small tip and sometimes sadly nothing. I have asked before " So, what would make you ready for a dance?" Sometimes this gets me a response often it doesn't.

    3. Customers who feel "ripped off or scammed out of money" I had a couple clients recently claim they were "ripped off" by me???

    I am asking for suggestions.

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
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    Default Re: Guys Who Say They Don't Get Dances/ Too Young

    Yeah I get the too young/ too pretty stereotype a lot. Like... would you want an old, ugly stripper? Oh I also got too skinny the other night. Let's allow that to sink in... TOO SKINNY. I mean I have boobs/curves sooooooo...? Just because I don't have cellulite or one foot in the grave, don't hate!

    Sometimes I long for the days when men were attracted to long lean, tall women.

    I think you can get around the too young thing just by talking it up and playing into the fantasy like Athena said. It's all in how you play the game. It is really a mindfuck because you come into this industry thinking youth=beauty=attraction=money... but thats not always the case.

    And another thing... if these guys are SOOO freaked out by the young girl/ same age as daughter thing, how do you explain the ever popular schoolgirl/cheerleader fixation?? I rest my case.
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    Default Re: Guys Who Say They Don't Get Dances/ Too Young

    I've never had a guy tell me I'm too young or too skinny (although I look both).
    I'm 20 and the 90% of my customers are old dudes. The young ones want tit and ass (which I don't have) and the old guys want their youth back (and I take them back to high school, look wise).
    But just one thing that struck me: WHY would you asked to be compensated to find a dancer? Dude. That just comes off as if you're a stuck up bitch. I'm sure you'd earn a lot of respect from dancers and customers if you were willing to help a customer find the girl he is looking for without any expectation of a payment.
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    Default Re: Guys Who Say They Don't Get Dances/ Too Young

    Quote Originally Posted by XAnastasiaX View Post
    I have been running into two things lately and want to know how to deal with them

    1. I find that sometimes I am too young for a customer. I myself am 25 and often my target is an older gentleman because for the most part I am very mature for my age mentally. I do find though that the other night I had about four customers tell me the would not get a dance due to me being around the same age as their daughter ( eek!) I politely then asked what type of dancer they would be interested in and also if they would mind compensating me to go find her. Was this the right thing to do? Any suggestions? Was it just someone being a time waster?

    2. I will sit with a client and press his friendship, authority and/or reason why button and he/she will tell me " Oh you are gorgeous but I don't get dances." or " I just came to enjoy the stage show" sometimes followed by a small tip and sometimes sadly nothing. I have asked before " So, what would make you ready for a dance?" Sometimes this gets me a response often it doesn't.

    3. Customers who feel "ripped off or scammed out of money" I had a couple clients recently claim they were "ripped off" by me???

    I am asking for suggestions.

    Thanks
    I get the too young thing all the time and it is freaking annoying. I hear at least 3x a night. "wow you are so young, aren't you? What are you? 18?" Now I am 27, turning 28 this year. I mean, I am happy I look young but please...18? When I tell them my real age they warm to me and after I've spoken to them a little longer and they can tell I am intelligent, then I can usually win them over. Try to come off as sexy and sophisticated instead of cute. This is really only for old guys though. Why not try lying about your age? Occasionally I will lie and say I am 30. They will sometimes test me to see if I know stuff a 30-year-old would and I can answer back easily. It's only a few years difference and my husband is 35 so I know all his highschool stories.

    As for the "I don't get dances" BS. Now that just pisses me off. I either a) scowl stand up and walk away without saying anything b) say "oh how sad for you, I guess I'll have to have fun with someone else. You are boring anyways" c) "oh gee that's great. Are you aware that unless you spend money, we don't make anything? It's not supposed to be a free show". I don't have time for these people so I see no reason for wasting it on them.

    The ripped off thing is a shame. Did they say why? how? Each person will have a different reason for feeling ripped off so it really depends on the reason.

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    Default Re: Guys Who Say They Don't Get Dances/ Too Young

    Another customer could see you being rude,makeing faces.Just be an actress dont let anyone ruin your day,If there disrespectful walk away.

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    I think my answer to 1, 2, and 3 could be that you are coming off as too much of a nice girl. Yes, some guys go to talk to a beautiful intelligent woman but many of them may too reminded of their lovely wives, girlfriends and daughters by that so I try and forget my true smarty pants self and sleaze it up a bit to help with sales. Men love sleaze, it's a strip club!

    I mean, I have great nights being my true self, having nice conversations for free, kickin' the shit and making friends BUT I sell sososososoSOSOSO much more when I go into slutty auto-pilot mode and refuse to be talked out of it. I can do it best when I'm ovulating because it's not too much of a stretch from the truth, I really am THAT horny.

    So I don't know, just a thought. All three of those situations seems to come up more often for me when I'm off my game and being too nice, too sweet, too engaging. I guess if the club is slow and more relaxed it's not easy to hard-sell like that, and the pleasant conversation is pretty much de riguer. What sort of environment is your strip club?

    Also- I don't think you're a 'stuck up bitch' for asking for a tip to go find a different dancer. You work for yourself, not for the other dancer or for the club who will make money off of their interaction. So in a last ditch effort to be "employed" by the customer, you ask if he'd like you to find him a more suitable companion, makes perfect sense (though personally I would just walk away).

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    First off I rarely ask for a compensation to go find another entertainer for someone who finds me not to be his fancy. Often it is even offered to me, so thanks to those one here who don't find me to be a "stuck up bitch" I highly appreciate this as I have successfully done this job for almost 6 years.

    The rip off comment is usually from a client who wants more contact than I can legally give him or her. It's a rare thing ( thank goodness) or because our club is 30 plus a song and some are so used to less than this at the hometown clubs.

    I actually had a man last night who was dead set on not getting a dance in the club, after our conversation he just had to he was so intrigued and honestly it was the best of his life quite flattering.

    I can't do the extra slutty thing personally. I need to be myself and find that this cultivates more regulars, It is a strip club and in the end it really is about who comes back to see YOU!

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    meh re the more contact thing. God men are dicks sometimes. I don't have time for these types. That's why I never use lines like "lets have some fun". When people ask what they are getting, I say a nude dance. If they give me attitude about it I just give it back. I used to be able to play along with there stupid games but realized my time is better spent finding quality customers.

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    Yeah, it's not a brothel hun!

    I always say me all to yourself ahhh how delightful

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    Quote Originally Posted by XAnastasiaX
    2. I will sit with a client and press his friendship, authority and/or reason why button and he/she will tell me " Oh you are gorgeous but I don't get dances." or " I just came to enjoy the stage show" sometimes followed by a small tip and sometimes sadly nothing. I have asked before " So, what would make you ready for a dance?" Sometimes this gets me a response often it doesn't.
    Whenever I've been chatting to a guy for a while only to get the "you seem really nice but I don't get dances" line I just smile at them and respond cheekily "That's ok, you can pay me for my conversation instead then" and try to sell a VIP.

    Though this doesn't often work (at least not at my current club) it doesn't hurt to try and let's the customer know you're there to make money, not chat for free, without getting upset or annoyed. If they still say no then I tell them it was a pleasure chatting to them but I have to get back to work, depending on the vibe I get from them I might try again later when they've had a few more drinks.

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    When guys give me the line about not getting dances, I do one of two things. I either excuse myself and inform them firmly but politely that I have to go make money. They will either let me go, or beg me to stay and talk. If they ask me to stay and talk - they are firmly informed that my time isn't free, and while I'm happy to stay and talk, I'll need to be compensated for my time.

    The "too young" line gets me too. I'm 21 and head for the older customers myself. I'll sometimes do what you do - offer to find them a dancer that is better suited to their age standard. Because of the pin-up look I rock, and it looks like you do too (OP), I can use that to my advantage. I'll sorta pout, and say something along the lines of how guys my own age don't get my look and my attitude, lament briefly about how the "values" and style from the 50's is dying, blah blah blah, and how it's 'really only guys like you that understand!'. Gets me dances 8/10.
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    Default Re: Guys Who Say They Don't Get Dances/ Too Young

    Here's a good tip: if a customer asks your age, ask them their age first. The younger guys like girls their own age and the older ones usually like ones that are more mature (late 20's/early 30's). Age really is a malleable number

    The ones who say they don't get dances. Try saying, there's always a first time Otherwise, don't waste your time.

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