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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    You may want to update your research. First of all, porn generally does not pay well.. Not anymore. Not unless you have your own web-site and/or production company.

    You can get BIGGER money for escorting if you have titles under your belt. Anywhere from 40% to HALF will go to the agency that books and promotes you.
    Note I said "bigger". Porn credits mean you will be billed out from $1000 to $2500 an hr. depending. It does NOT mean there will be a market for you and remember that at most you get 60 %.
    Featuring ? Where ? The market for "feature" dancers is DYING. Personal appearances, maybe. Most don't pay very much.

    For every Jenna or Jill Kelly there are dozens of Ginger Lynns. Be careful.
    What the hell makes you think I haven't done research??? You're just dripping with a condescending attitude, aren't you? I have no desire to be Jenna Jameson, thanks very much.

    1) Currently working on my own website, with a members' section, integrated cams, videos, photo sets, and store. And since I do graphic design/web design as my side job, I won't be wasting any money hiring someone else to do my website.

    2) I have been working in the escorting business for six years, most of it agency work, so thanks, but I already know about agency splits. I'm not a fucking moron.

    3) Did I say anything about a get rich quick scheme from doing porn? No, I did not. If anything, I will use the money I make from doing the porn and feed it right back into my career. I am doing it FOR THE CREDITS.

    4) You're not telling me anything I don't know.

    5) As I recall, I wasn't asking for input from someone who isn't even an escort. In fact, as I recall, I wasn't looking for input at all. Merely stating FACTS.

    6) Feature work, porn work for other companies, no shit they don't pay a lot. That's not what it's about any more. Feature work and porn is merely promotional tools now. However, if a porn star is billed at the Bunny Ranch or making the rounds as an escort, she's gonna make big money. Any idiot with half a brain knows that.

    7) No, I won't be giving 60% of my money to an agency, because as of March I'll be INDIE. I'm also in the process of going through all the legal hoops to start my own agency. You're not dealing with some little retard who doesn't know the business.

    But thanks a lot for assuming I'm a fucking idiot who doesn't know what she's talking about. I really don't appreciate your condescending attitude. If I want feedback, I'll get it from the OTHER escorts, OKAY? Peace out.

    PMS = Really bad day to try and start shit with me.

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    ^^^ I hope you both feel better now. Do what you want . Think what you like. I don't want to argue with you ladies and wish you all the best of luck in all your endeavors. Some of you wouldn't take my word for it if I told you: "water is wet".

    The fact remains that porn credits do NOT always translate into higher escort prices. The porn companies like Wicked and Vivid are hurting. Have you seen some of the product they are putting out now and compared it to their "glory years" ? The Web is glutted with porn. Do either of you KNOW gals who've done porn and escort ? I DO. They all tell me the same thing : prices up = number of bookings DOWN. Can it even out or even work out better that way ? Sure. Quality over quantity. BUT, these days a lot of guys who used to be able to afford HDH's no longer can. Number of appts. are down especially in N.Y.C. , Vegas, SoFla and L.A. It's the economy ladies and it ain't just here in the U.S. A lot of other countries are in economic trouble creating less demand for and greater SUPPLY of HDH's. It's simple economics.

    Did you check out attendance this year at AVN ? It was WAY down. Why do you think that was ? What effect do you think that's going to have ? Have you even thought about it ? Do you think you should ?

    All I did was raise a few issues for our S-Web friend to THINK about before SHE decides what to do. Obviously she thinks it better to take shots at me. So be it. Whatever she does, I hope it works out for the best and she's happy with the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    ^^^ I hope you both feel better now. Do what you want . Think what you like. I don't want to argue with you ladies and wish you both the best of luck in all your endeavors.
    Um, I stated facts.. You simply didn't read. This business is NOT for men. Don't try to tell a lady how to run her business. Yes I'll continue to do what I want.. like I've been doing and it's working wonders for me. Next time READ before your respond, simple.

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    Actually, YES, I DO know girls who do porn and escort, jack ass.

    I'm stating facts about MY personal experience and the experience of people I PERSONALLY KNOW.

    You're spitting garbage you've read in magazines/industry websites.

    And no, you weren't "raising issues", dumb ass. You were trying to make me sound like a stupid newbie with stars in her eyes.

    Condescending ass.

    I don't even know why you're even reading this forum. It's for OTHER WORK IN THE ADULT INDUSTRY. You're not a porn star, you're not a feature dancer, you're not a camgirl, and you're not escort. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

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    Oh, and one more point I'd like to address.

    Where you work + what you offer = directly concurrent to your price. This means when you work elsewhere, or under a different name, or offer different things, you can charge different money!!!

    That means when I tour to Boston or Jersey or Orlando, where I ALWAYS make bank at sig. higher prices, I will charge differently than I charge here. That means I will always have clientele regardless of my price because my price will always be shifting. There goes your theory on less customers.

    Kthnxbai!

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    Where do I sign up to get an exemption for Namecalling ?

    Silly me. I THOUGHT it was against the rules.

    I'm sorry if you are taking this personally and even understand if you don't appreciate my advice. You seem to have everything figured out for your ownself and that's all fine and dandy afaic. Somebody else reading this might give pause and think about it. Forgive me for stating the obvious but "porn is forever". Once it's out there you can't pull it back and hide it somewhere. That's all I was trying to say in my clumsy, perhaps insensitive way. I apologize for any offense; real or imagined. Again I wish you every success and the best of luck.

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    My issue is that you're talking down to me like I'm a moron who has absolutely no experience in this business.

    And calling someone condescending isn't name calling.

    Especially if it's true.

    Remind me again, how long have you worked in the adult business as a performer?

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    Calling someone a dumb ass and a jack ass IS name calling.

    Eric, the girls in this section believe it is their God given right to insult others as they please. That is why I rarely post in this section anymore, despite my years of escorting. It makes me cringe that we cannot have intelligent discussions here without going to the Jerry Springer level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmisssunshine View Post
    Calling someone a dumb ass and a jack ass IS name calling.

    Eric, the girls in this section believe it is their God given right to insult others as they please. That is why I rarely post in this section anymore, despite my years of escorting. It makes me cringe that we cannot have intelligent discussions here without going to the Jerry Springer level.
    That's very nice of you. I sent Wanderlust a PM to try and clear the air and lower the temperature. It's possible I offended her without any intention of doing so.Or maybe she's having a bad day. Whatever. I NEVER namecall and see no need for anyone else to do so.
    I certainly HOPE that 's not the way she talks to her "clients".

    Again, I wish her every success and every good wish for success.

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    can we stop fighting for once?? I mean almost every post lately has ending up in fighting.. everyone pop a pampen, eat some chocolate and lets get back on subject!

    I was thinking about getting a set of things like a goodie bag for my clients like, good soap (not the cheap hotel soap), deodorant, and mouthwash or something like that and have it in the bath room or somewhere..

    cause sometimes my clients arent the cleanest.. and I need help with that if anyone has any ideas on telling them YOU STINK!


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    i'm out of midol. =(

    i always keep an emergency bag on me during appointments, it contains the following:

    - mouthwash
    - toothpaste
    - travel toothbrush for me only
    - those little disposable one time use colgate wisp toothbrushes for custies
    - dry shampoo (it's like hairspray, but it soaks up excess grease and funky smells)
    - hairspray
    - hair serum
    - condoms
    - tampons/makeup sponges/insteads
    - lube
    - travel size shaving cream
    - disposable razors
    - body wash
    - bikini zone cream in case i get razor bump...that shit's not cute.
    - emergency zit cream
    - contact solution
    - contact case
    - BC powder
    - orajel
    - pepper spray (just....in...case...)
    - spare cell phone battery
    - perfume
    - a spray deodorant for the men, cuz nobody wants to use something a stranger's armpit has been on....
    - a tiny travel deodorant for me.

    plus my makeup.

    it sounds like a lot of stuff, but everything is travel sized and the bag I carry it in fits inside my regular purse. I like to be prepared for just about anything.

    I also carry little tiny travel sized candles to sort of set the mood and get that hotel smell out. They're basically the wal-mart version of Yankee candles (you know, in the glass jars) and they only cost $1 each. I like Vanilla best.

    I know some girls like to bring their ipods and ipod speakers for mood music but I worry about mine getting jacked. Plus, I'm pretty sure the only one who finds Alice in Chains soothing is me.

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    ^^ Thanks girl, good post! *saves*


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    Quote Originally Posted by babybambi08 View Post
    can we stop fighting for once?? I mean almost every post lately has ending up in fighting.. everyone pop a pampen, eat some chocolate and lets get back on subject!

    I was thinking about getting a set of things like a goodie bag for my clients like, good soap (not the cheap hotel soap), deodorant, and mouthwash or something like that and have it in the bath room or somewhere..

    cause sometimes my clients arent the cleanest.. and I need help with that if anyone has any ideas on telling them YOU STINK!
    I wouldn't see a stinky client AT ALL! I have an etiqutte page on my website that clearly states that the client must SHOWER prior to my/or his arrival. I saw an indian guy when I was working with the agency and he smelled like BAD BOOTY!!! I almost threw up! It's was a combination of B.O, Bad booty and curry! LMFAO! Bambi, Tell your clients to take a shower! ha!

    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust08 View Post
    i'm out of midol. =(

    i always keep an emergency bag on me during appointments, it contains the following:

    - mouthwash
    - toothpaste
    - travel toothbrush for me only
    - those little disposable one time use colgate wisp toothbrushes for custies
    - dry shampoo (it's like hairspray, but it soaks up excess grease and funky smells)
    - hairspray
    - hair serum
    - condoms
    - tampons/makeup sponges/insteads
    - lube
    - travel size shaving cream
    - disposable razors
    - body wash
    - bikini zone cream in case i get razor bump...that shit's not cute.
    - emergency zit cream
    - contact solution
    - contact case
    - BC powder
    - orajel
    - pepper spray (just....in...case...)
    - spare cell phone battery
    - perfume
    - a spray deodorant for the men, cuz nobody wants to use something a stranger's armpit has been on....
    - a tiny travel deodorant for me.

    plus my makeup.

    it sounds like a lot of stuff, but everything is travel sized and the bag I carry it in fits inside my regular purse. I like to be prepared for just about anything.

    I also carry little tiny travel sized candles to sort of set the mood and get that hotel smell out. They're basically the wal-mart version of Yankee candles (you know, in the glass jars) and they only cost $1 each. I like Vanilla best.

    I know some girls like to bring their ipods and ipod speakers for mood music but I worry about mine getting jacked. Plus, I'm pretty sure the only one who finds Alice in Chains soothing is me.
    Awesome list! I just bought a laptop mini and it's PERFECT for traveling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    I wouldn't see a stinky client AT ALL! I have an etiqutte page on my website that clearly states that the client must SHOWER prior to my/or his arrival. I saw an indian guy when I was working with the agency and he smelled like BAD BOOTY!!! I almost threw up! It's was a combination of B.O, Bad booty and curry! LMFAO! Bambi, Tell your clients to take a shower! ha!



    Awesome list! I just bought a laptop mini and it's PERFECT for traveling!
    OMG the curry/body odor smell is the worst combo EVER. I have run into that several times...just kinda held my breath, got him out as quick as possible, and then put him on the black list.

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    do you use make-up sponges with your insteads?

    I love insteads they are the best!


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    nope...i use different things depending on my flow. super heavy flow/1st day - my ass isn't working. Kinda heavy, but workable - medium flow 2nd - 4th day - sponges. Last few days - insteads. The reason is because sometimes the insteads will tilt and stuff will leak out. But towards the end of your period it's a tiny bit of blood and the rest of it is the actual uterine lining.

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