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    And, how do you set expectations appropriately? I'm curious, are you very explicit and specific with what you are expecting? Or do you simply hint at what you want?

    Do you ask a girl what she will and won't do in VIP or is this something that you "feel out"?

    What questions do you ask?

    Do you "take a test drive" by purchasing a couple of lapdances first?

    What have been your experiences with what does and does not work?

    Does your method vary by club?

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    Default Re: How do you decide which girl to take to VIP?

    I have not had a set routine. If a girl has the right look for me, I will engage her at the stage. Then usually a little small talk on the floor, followed by one or more lap dance. If those are satisfactory, then VIP on the next visit (not a big budget here). However, there have been a few cases where I went from the stage right to the VIP after feeling some real good chemistry (or well-applied SS!) Most of those cases turned out to be highly enjoyable. One negative outcome happened with a lovely hot Filipina that gave me a half-hour of very vanilla lap dancing in VIP. At the end she apologized and said the girl across the VIP room is the biggest snitch in the club and would report any kind of extra activity.

    Anyhow, to answer the OP, I don't try to discuss or contract for any specific acts prior to entering the VIP area. My instincts have usually been good as to what girls would give a pleasurable experience. Prior negotiation just ruins the mood for me. I prefer the spontaneity, even if there is an occasional letdown.

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    well, it depends on what you're looking for. you might be looking for a different kind of sick perversion to be fulfilled in VIP. speaking in broad generalities really doesn't help to answer your question about what you expect when you go to VIP. lastly, if you refrained from being explicit because you're worried about being viewed as a pervert. get over it. the fact that you're asking this question or have been to a to sc means it's too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    And, how do you set expectations appropriately? I'm curious, are you very explicit and specific with what you are expecting? Or do you simply hint at what you want?

    Do you ask a girl what she will and won't do in VIP or is this something that you "feel out"?

    What questions do you ask?

    Do you "take a test drive" by purchasing a couple of lapdances first?

    What have been your experiences with what does and does not work?

    Does your method vary by club?

    I don't think my methods would work for you

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    There has to be something about them and what happens during a regular dance to make me think a more private and longer dance might. It's not strictly about contact, it is about intimacy.

    The way to not get me into VIP is to ask me to take you there before we have even done a regular dance.
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    Here is my experience:

    - I mainly look for a girl that is "fun". She is having a good time and can carry a conversation.

    - I always end up with a "party" girl. I understand that a lot of girls don't drink, but I tend to be attracted to those that want to have fun, since I am usually having a good time.

    - Can't stand the "wanna dance" girls. If you are not willing to sit down and spend some time, screw it. Even in a "wanna dance" club, the smart girls will spend some time talking if they want VIP.

    - Always get a lapdance or two for a test drive. Always. Unfortunately, many girls will whisper all sorts of crap to talk you into VIP, and then will be no more sexy than your aunt.

    Don't get hung up on type. I used to be pretty picky about the girl I was looking for, ie, blonde w/o stupid fake boobs, but have found that you will have more fun if you are open to new types of girls.
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    Default Re: How do you decide which girl to take to VIP?

    Forgot to add,

    - I never ask a girl what she "will do" in VIP.
    If there are no strip clubs in heaven, I'm not going.

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    Default Re: How do you decide which girl to take to VIP?

    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    And, how do you set expectations appropriately? I'm curious, are you very explicit and specific with what you are expecting? Or do you simply hint at what you want?
    First off, your expectations are irrelevant. Every girl has their limits, and whether or not they match with your desires is either serendipity or frustration.

    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    Do you ask a girl what she will and won't do in VIP or is this something that you "feel out"?
    Almost no stripper who engages in high mileage or higher contact dances will actually tell you that. I've never once asked a dancer what she will do or if she's willing do certain things. Any dancer who tells you "Let's go to the VIP where we can get naughty" or any words to that effect will, in fact, be the opposite of naughty. This statement is never not true. Especially if they use the specific term "naughty," which, apparently to dancers, actually means, "not naughty at all." Must be that extra "X" chromosome.

    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    What questions do you ask?
    Usually, "Wanna go do VIP?" works pretty well for me.

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    Do you "take a test drive" by purchasing a couple of lapdances first?
    Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. There's never a guarantee, but how a dancer moves in your lap on the main floor is a good harbinger of how she'll behave in VIP. If you're getting a lot of air and no/minimal 2-way contact on the floor, what makes you think she's gonna turn into Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct in VIP? OTOH, some girls will portion out their mileage: good in topless, better in nude, off-the-charts in VIP. I know within 30 seconds of any first-time dance whether or not I'll be upgrading.

    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    What have been your experiences with what does and does not work?
    Aside from the above? Here's a clue: watch who and for how long dancers go into VIP. If you see a girl constantly going into VIP and coming out within 2-3 songs all the time, I guarantee you she's an overpromiser and underdeliverer. Conversely, when a girl goes into VIP for so long that her mail gets forwarded there, and when she comes out she heads directly to the bathroom or dressing room to "freshen up," that's probably a keeper right there.

    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    Does your method vary by club?
    Gotta adjust to your surroundings. Even if you've never been in that club before, it's not real difficult to figure out the ground rules if you pay attention.

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    I agree with CP. One thing is that I never accept a request for VIP too quickly. I made the mistake of finding a gorgous brunette built just like I like and approaching her. WRONG move. It was really a mistake. I have never heard a chick bitch so much in my life. What an f***ing disaster, and then she kept b****ing for, no demanding, a tip. I can't emphasize how much you need to test drive a girl on the main floor both in dances and talking to her. You can get a feel for what she's like. Don't buy into the whole "naughty" tease. I've never had a girl that was "naughty" in VIP use it as a selling point and I've never had a girl claim to be "naughty" that really was.
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    Default Re: How do you decide which girl to take to VIP?

    Pretty much as others have already said.

    1. Try a few dances on the floor out.

    2. When chatting with them, I'm not talking to myself.

    3. Obviously, has to be my type.

    4. First words out of her mouth "let's go to VIP or wanna a dance" is a no-no.

    5. Mentions of being naughtier or extras in the VIP is a sure tip-off of an over-hustle, over-promise and under-deliver type.

    6. Of course helps if she's the ATF.

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    And just a FYI, the reason I posted this is because my last VIP experience was a ridiculous disaster. I haven't purchased a VIP since. I took this dancer to the champagne room for a half hour. As soon as we got in the room she started bitching about how she hated dancing and was going to quit after she finished her next semester. Then she started unloading her baggage. She said something about having a headache and kept on badgering to massage her feet.

    I was floored. She kept on taking breaks and drinking champagne, talking about her kids. A bucket on bon-bons and a baby crying in the background would of made the picture complete. I starting thinking, "this is what being married must feel like." I kept saying, "Yeah, stripping sounds like it sucks... are you ready for some more dancing?"

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    what? you just got ripped off, dude. that's completely different ball of wax. what i don't get is why didn't you end the VIP once you realized the broad wasn't going to shut her knob hole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    And just a FYI, the reason I posted this is because my last VIP experience was a ridiculous disaster. I haven't purchased a VIP since. I took this dancer to the champagne room for a half hour. As soon as we got in the room she started bitching about how she hated dancing and was going to quit after she finished her next semester. Then she started unloading her baggage. She said something about having a headache and kept on badgering to massage her feet.

    I was floored. She kept on taking breaks and drinking champagne, talking about her kids. A bucket on bon-bons and a baby crying in the background would of made the picture complete. I starting thinking, "this is what being married must feel like." I kept saying, "Yeah, stripping sounds like it sucks... are you ready for some more dancing?"
    Did you get the dancer I had a few years ago? Ugh, that was a horrible experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GougeAway View Post
    I was floored. She kept on taking breaks and drinking champagne, talking about her kids. A bucket on bon-bons and a baby crying in the background would of made the picture complete. I starting thinking, "this is what being married must feel like." I kept saying, "Yeah, stripping sounds like it sucks... are you ready for some more dancing?"
    Yep, this is exactly why you'll read on the Pink side why the dancers want to get the money up front. It's not about the mileage per se, it's about getting what you paid for.

    A few years back, when I first moved to Phoenix, I found a dancer at Christies' Cabaret who looked like a doppelganger for internet model Erica Rose Campbell. We did some laps downstairs, then negotiated a price for the VIP area upstairs. No extreme mileage, just nice soft grinding and careful mutual fondling. Very nice time, worth every penny, even for a mileage hound like myself.

    By the third time, she started cutting back her services, and the 30 minutes was closer to 25. The fourth time she said time was up at 22 minutes, and also noticed I didn't stay as, uh, excited as usual. When I'm being ripped off, that happens. There was no fifth opportunity.

    Let's face it; stripclubbing is an expensive hobby. Sometimes you'll find a hidden gem, and sometimes it's just a Cracker Jack zircon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    Yep, this is exactly why you'll read on the Pink side why the dancers want to get the money up front. It's not about the mileage per se, it's about getting what you paid for.

    A few years back, when I first moved to Phoenix, I found a dancer at Christies' Cabaret who looked like a doppelganger for internet model Erica Rose Campbell. We did some laps downstairs, then negotiated a price for the VIP area upstairs. No extreme mileage, just nice soft grinding and careful mutual fondling. Very nice time, worth every penny, even for a mileage hound like myself.

    By the third time, she started cutting back her services, and the 30 minutes was closer to 25. The fourth time she said time was up at 22 minutes, and also noticed I didn't stay as, uh, excited as usual. When I'm being ripped off, that happens. There was no fifth opportunity.

    Let's face it; stripclubbing is an expensive hobby. Sometimes you'll find a hidden gem, and sometimes it's just a Cracker Jack zircon.

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    Yep, Been there, done that, got the tshirt. I was stuck in the Mid-Atlantic for a weekend a few years ago. I found a girl at a club that I really liked on night 1. On night 2, I caught a bit of hassle. On night 3, I felt like I was being taken. On my way out, she asked me when I would come back. My response: Never. My rule, if you hassle me over my money, or your playing games with the time, twice, there isn't a third time. Its the corollary to my rule about never messing with a dancer's money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    Yep, this is exactly why you'll read on the Pink side why the dancers want to get the money up front. It's not about the mileage per se, it's about getting what you paid for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeUnCool View Post
    Glad I don't pay upfront.
    This is so odd to me. I don't ask for money up front for dances alone, but for VIPs, always. It's a security measure to me- making sure dude has enough money to pay and isn't going to stiff me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    This is so odd to me. I don't ask for money up front for dances alone, but for VIPs, always. It's a security measure to me- making sure dude has enough money to pay and isn't going to stiff me.

    I've never been asked for the money upfront but I rarely danced with girls I wasn't pretty familiar with.
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    This is the biggest challenge for me. I'm still not very good at it. Usually after a couple of bad visits in a row is when I stop going to clubs for a while. It has been worse in this economy too, which I just can't wrap my head around. Money is tighter for most people, meanwhile I'm spending the same amount int he club as before, and my fun has decreased. Huh!? Well, that's why I haven't been since November.
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    Gouge - how was the girl that you took to VIP acting on the floor? did you say to her "this stuff isn't really sexy or a good time at all"?

    Joe - i'm happy for you that you're glad about not paying up front. i'm more happy that i work at a club were that's the policy, and i never take my shoes off before i get my money. the two times i took them off before getting paid the dude's credit card was declined, so its a superstition now.

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    Just become a regular to a SC and it really doesn't take very long to figure out which stunning ladies to take into VIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarv View Post
    Just become a regular to a SC and it really doesn't take very long to figure out which stunning ladies to take into VIP.
    that's great but how long does it take to become a regular??
    what if you travel a lot on business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    Gouge - how was the girl that you took to VIP acting on the floor? did you say to her "this stuff isn't really sexy or a good time at all"?

    Joe - i'm happy for you that you're glad about not paying up front. i'm more happy that i work at a club were that's the policy, and i never take my shoes off before i get my money. the two times i took them off before getting paid the dude's credit card was declined, so its a superstition now.
    Like many things, when trust is earned everyone feels more comfortable. If a girl demands to be paid upfront, its a sign that something's up to me.
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showpos...postcount=4011

    Its a redlight warning for me. I don't think everyone is bad, but its a danger sign. I know that there are scumbads that will try to walk out. That's why there are bouncers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeUnCool View Post
    Like many things, when trust is earned everyone feels more comfortable. If a girl demands to be paid upfront, its a sign that something's up to me.
    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showpos...postcount=4011

    Its a redlight warning for me. I don't think everyone is bad, but its a danger sign. I know that there are scumbads that will try to walk out. That's why there are bouncers.
    no it is a club policy, its not up to individual girls. and what is a bouncer supposed to do when a customer has $700 to his name instead of the 1k he owes for the hour?? seriously please tell me.
    and if a guy racks up a 10k, 20k, 48k bill in VIP, we're supposed to assume he'll be good for that at the end of the night? or do you think you only shouldn't have to pay upfront when you're doing a measly 30mins but other guys doing more time should?

    you blues would know better than i, but don't prostitutes get paid upfront? or does she fuck you and then hope you have all the money?
    (while we're not actually fucking in the VIP, there are naked bodies involved and way more work on the strippers end than just having sex)


    oh i just read your post... if i put in all that work in and a customer walked out on me owing me hundreds, i would be so pissed for the stress there is no way i'd let him have anymore time with me. it blows my mind that you think its reasonable to get a product that is so personal and cannot be taken back before its paid for.
    but whatever, you said in that post you are a cheapskate so you'd never come into a club like mine and have to deal with paying upfront anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    you blues would know better than i, but don't prostitutes get paid upfront? or does she fuck you and then hope you have all the money?
    (while we're not actually fucking in the VIP, there are naked bodies involved and way more work on the strippers end than just having sex)
    I have never paid upfront and have not yet been asked to pay upfront. I have had bad service a couple of times and still paid the full amount. I figured it was best to just pay her to go away quietly, and hopefully choose better the next time around.
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