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    Hi everyone, i need your help. what are some topics of conversation none of the "where are you from" blah blah, but some sexy stuff lol I dont want to know the customer, i just wanna flirt do my dances and off to the next .

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    Oh boy...in this economy it's tough to use the "off to the next" philosophy. Conversation skills that lead towards a lapdance close AND upsell are the difference between just making your housefee back and walking out with that guy's entire wallet.

    The tips you are looking for are in my iTunes podcast. Click on the link in my signature or just search "strip and grow rich" once you are inside it iTunes store. It's WAAAAAAY too much for me to even attempt to type out.

    good luck!
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    I think that part of being good vs. great at this job is actually being interested in other people. Yes, you can always fake it, but I find that the more "real" interest that I have in somebody and his "story," the more money that I make. I do NOT, however, let myself get sucked into hearing his "story" for free - I still keep my eyes on the prize ($$$).

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    Quote Originally Posted by britneyireland View Post
    Oh boy...in this economy it's tough to use the "off to the next" philosophy. Conversation skills that lead towards a lapdance close AND upsell are the difference between just making your housefee back and walking out with that guy's entire wallet.

    The tips you are looking for are in my iTunes podcast. Click on the link in my signature or just search "strip and grow rich" once you are inside it iTunes store. It's WAAAAAAY too much for me to even attempt to type out.

    good luck!
    Oh, wow. Thank you SO much. Listening my way through this all RIGHT NOW.

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    What really helps me is to not sit in laps. Sit across from the guy whenever you can. Touch knees with him and lean forward. Use eye contact. I've typed this out before, but here's how mine normally go:

    Me: Hey cupcake, how's things?
    Him: [smiles- thats why I use that opener] Good, and yourself?
    Me: I'm going fantastic / great/ wonderful! [strong words] Looks like you could use some company!
    Him: [invites me to sit]

    The conversation then goes:

    Where are you from? Oh [ X Town]? I've been there/ I have a friend there/ I have always wanted to visit/ I'm going there soon to visit! [insert random positive details about his location]. Don't you just love Austin? I fell in love with [ x, x and x] have you been to [x, x and x]? If you have time, you should totally check it out. What do you do/ why are you in town? That sounds awesome! [ insert random praise about occupation - trust me you can always find something, even if it's Burger King: "Oh really? That's cool- I love their veggie burger! Makes it so much easier for me- do you sell a lot of them?" ]

    In my experience that usually gives you enough avenues to branch off, or for him to branch off. I usually do 2-3 songs of chat before I pitch. Better success rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    What really helps me is to not sit in laps. Sit across from the guy whenever you can. Touch knees with him and lean forward. Use eye contact. I've typed this out before, but here's how mine normally go:

    Me: Hey cupcake, how's things?
    Him: [smiles- thats why I use that opener] Good, and yourself?
    Me: I'm going fantastic / great/ wonderful! [strong words] Looks like you could use some company!
    Him: [invites me to sit]

    The conversation then goes:

    Where are you from? Oh [ X Town]? I've been there/ I have a friend there/ I have always wanted to visit/ I'm going there soon to visit! [insert random positive details about his location]. Don't you just love Austin? I fell in love with [ x, x and x] have you been to [x, x and x]? If you have time, you should totally check it out. What do you do/ why are you in town? That sounds awesome! [ insert random praise about occupation - trust me you can always find something, even if it's Burger King: "Oh really? That's cool- I love their veggie burger! Makes it so much easier for me- do you sell a lot of them?" ]

    In my experience that usually gives you enough avenues to branch off, or for him to branch off. I usually do 2-3 songs of chat before I pitch. Better success rate.
    And this is why you are great at what you do! ^

    OP, to me this boils down to three key elements - assertion, interest, reassurance, all like the above.

    Assertion that he COULD use some company. If you ask if he could use some, he'll think well gee, could I? Here comes the doubt. If you tell him that really, he could, he'll accept that.

    Interest in him. Most custies don't want to hear about your problems. They may however want to talk about their own. Either way, paying attention and making him know you are genuinely (or at least faking it well) interested in him, his surroundings, his life, his job, makes him feel special. Make him feel special with your words and he's going to make you feel special with his wallet. Just asking about it isn't enough though, which brings us on to-

    Reassurance that everything about the custie is awesome, AND, that you are a part of that. Mediocrity makes a link between the custie, awesomeness, and herself. Dollar signs floating around in the air, and it is so ridiculously easy. "Oh, you do X? X is great! I myself enjoy watching X on TV!" Not only are you telling the custie he's badass, you're creating an association in his mind with the cool stuff he does, and you.

    So, Mediocrity up there is not only telling him what to do, and making him feel special, she's sliding herself in there and making herself special to the custie.

    Being in the UK I don't have a stack of ones to throw about demonstratively but you bet your ass I would if I did.

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    There are some great tips in this thread!

    I think I have decent conversation skills but I can definately get better at it so this is perfect.

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    To OP:
    if you're not interested in your customers, try to mask that fact. If they realize that (you break the fantasy) they're not going to want to spend money on you.

    Unless you're at a super high volume club, it's a good idea to have engaging conversations with customers. It can actually lead to some excellent discussions, and I got all of my regulars because of conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post

    Reassurance that everything about the custie is awesome, AND, that you are a part of that. Mediocrity makes a link between the custie, awesomeness, and herself. Dollar signs floating around in the air, and it is so ridiculously easy. "Oh, you do X? X is great! I myself enjoy watching X on TV!" Not only are you telling the custie he's badass, you're creating an association in his mind with the cool stuff he does, and you.

    ^^^THIS makes me SO MUCH MONEY









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    I try the same convo lines also but always seems to be dead air somehow..like cant get it to flow into the sales pitch very well. I tried "well, enough talk, lets go have some fun" in which they would be like "huh?" and had no idea I was talking about a lapdance (they really didnt..kinda sad how IQ levels have gone down lol) so i switched to "id really love to dance for you now, cmon lets go" where they still think, and sometimes get "i dont get lapdances they're just a tease and i end up wanting more" ..i've read a ton of threads on convo and hustle hut..still, cant get it right. I feel like such an idiot, graduated school with close to a 4.0 GPA and can't get this right?!

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    AND so many people are so cynical lately. I told a guy I was feeling terrific (a variation of what I always answer) when he asked how I was doing, and he yelled at me: "Don't you give me all that fake B.S.!" I was like, "Hmm, good luck with all that," and walked away. He shouted after me, "Yeah, good luck with YOU."

    I'm sure there is a way to empathize with such an aggressive grouch and turn him all dewy and enchanted with me, but I sure wish I knew how. Can anyone talk about maintaining the fantasy with custies who specifically complain about us not being "real"?
    Last edited by raspberry ice; 04-26-2010 at 11:30 PM. Reason: added detail

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    Thanks, Britney! I am newly back in the game after a 9 month hiatus (had a real job, got laid off) and my anxiety over talking to people is overwhelming. I am now working at a club where I can't really drink (the cocktails used to help me) so I now forced into making myself conversate and try to sell to customers sober Which is a GOOD thing, and I know there is a way I can be good at this job without having to be F***ed up.....I think your podcasts are gonna help me get there. This job is all I have right now and I have got to start making the best of it instead of letting stupid stuff hold me back from the kind of $$$ I KNOW I can make.

    I watch many, many girls walk out every night with hundreds when I barely make a hundred. There is NO reason for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raspberry ice View Post
    AND so many people are so cynical lately. I told a guy I was feeling terrific (a variation of what I always answer) when he asked how I was doing, and he yelled at me: "Don't you give me all that fake B.S.!"
    I guess, if that were to happen to me, I would probably say something like "*cinical laugh* Okay, so you're wise the strip club game then?" Guys will take that as you praising their club-know-how, like their superior to other club goers. Then say something like "It's been a really chill night for me so far though....how's yours going?" and take down my 'perkiness/happiness' a notch. Leaves him to think that he's outsmarted me, and I'm now being 'real' with him. What a clever man, he outsmarted a stripper...

    Mind you, I doubt there's much hope in getting a dance out of a guy like that.



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