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    Tip us on stage, smile at a girl you like and when all else fails, call us over. Voila, you'll have a stripper come talk to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post

    And WTF is up with dancers not approaching couples?!?!?!?!?!!!!???!?!?! Hasn't word got out yet that couples SPEND MONEY?!
    Sorry, but word has not gotten out. In my experience, couples either spend a lot less money than single guys, or they spend the same but expect a LOT more contact. Women tend to think that they can get away with more because they are women. Most of the time, it's just not worth the hassle. Unless it's totally dead, I not only don't approach couples, but I avoid them and turn them down if they approach me.

    I also take issue with the fact that I'm expected to dance for two people, but get paid only once.

    Of course, I'm not saying that all couples are like this. Just most of them, and that's enough to keep me away.
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    Teleron - in many of the clubs here, approaching the DJ is not an option. In some of the smaller ones I've talked to the DJ's with mixed results. Some of those guys are reaaly awesome, some of them are super-ultra-mega-douchebags, lol.

    chris91 - don't even know what to say to that. All the girls I personally associate with make a point to get to couples because they're not generally there to waste your time or to just watch the show and not spend. Rarely hath a couple walked into a SC without buying at least ONE dance! As for the two-people thing... I dunno how your club works, but in most of them here if both people go back to VIP, they both pay. There are exceptions, but usually at the dancers discretion. And if they're buying dances, who cares if one watches? Is it really THAT much more work to have the guy sit there and smile while you dance on his girl or vice-verse?

    You are right about the girls expecting more contact thing though. But that's generally because most strippers (IME) will - without asking or provocation - give a LOT more contact to a woman. For that matter, many dancers give a very different LD to a guy they find attractive. But yeah - girls get what many would consider "extras" as part of the regular experience all the time, especially if they're really pretty. So I don't know that's it's the customers who've set that expectation, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    Sorry, but word has not gotten out. In my experience, couples either spend a lot less money than single guys, or they spend the same but expect a LOT more contact. Women tend to think that they can get away with more because they are women. Most of the time, it's just not worth the hassle. Unless it's totally dead, I not only don't approach couples, but I avoid them and turn them down if they approach me.

    I also take issue with the fact that I'm expected to dance for two people, but get paid only once.

    Of course, I'm not saying that all couples are like this. Just most of them, and that's enough to keep me away.
    Couples also require a lot more energy for me. one of the most effective ways to sell couples is to get the girl to be your best friend and then get her to get her dude to spend the money... but getting the girl to be buddy buddy usually involves a lot of energy-- you have to be giggly, make her laugh, make her feel super sexy, ugh. im not as good at female social interactions so this might be why it is so much harder for me, but i feel like building rapport iwth the woman is mentally draining. when the they come to the stage its easy, its like 5 seconds of giggle--boobies. but when i have to keep it up for more than 5 minutes, fuck it. i try to make the sale with couples within 2 minutes, becuase any longer than that i usually find i have trouble making conversation with the woman, and usually they start to notice lol.

    its a shame to, because a LOT of couples come into the clubs in NOLA.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post

    chris91 - don't even know what to say to that.
    Maybe it's different where you are. I'm just telling you what the reasoning is behind not approaching couples.



    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    And if they're buying dances, who cares if one watches? Is it really THAT much more work to have the guy sit there and smile while you dance on his girl or vice-verse?
    It's really just a matter of principle. A movie theater wouldn't let two people watch for the price of one, and I don't see why I should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post

    its a shame to, because a LOT of couples come into the clubs in NOLA.
    I know, hustler has been jam packed with couples! I remember when they didn't even let women in the club. Thems were the days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post

    And WTF is up with dancers not approaching couples?!?!?!?!?!!!!???!?!?! Hasn't word got out yet that couples SPEND MONEY?! Sure, if the chick looks like she's hating every second of being there, maybe tread lightly. But damn - it;s like having a GF with e just shuts off the stripper flow instantly. Most recently MM and I went to Glitter Gulch to visit a member here. It took almost 45 minutes for her to get to us. During which time we sat in a booth as follows (this is COMPLETELY TRUE, and blew my mind): Note - I'm going to go into details and drop designer names and whatnot not to be pretentious but to make a point.

    I was dressed in an Armani sport coat with a sharp button up underneath, designer jeans, my favorite Salvatore Ferragamo shoes, Movado watch hard to miss with my arm up on the table, and a fedora. MM was dressed very pin-up girl/rockabilly and hot as hell. And I shit you not, I had something like $500 in one hand, CLREARLY visible, in mixed bills with a huge stack of ones and 100's on the back clearly visible. Sitting in a prominent booth right by the entrance and near the end of the stage. FOR 45 MINUTES. We were not approached ONE. SINGLE. TIME.

    Unbelievable.

    Wow. That sucks.
    I've been to GGG many times and never have a problem getting attention, but I'm pretty sure it's because I am NOT part of a couple - I prefer going stag. I presume that the dancers know I'm there for dances and don't have any problems approaching me. But for a couple to be ignored that way is a true shame . And I'm a bit surprised that it happened there - GGG is known for couples since many curious couples strolling down Fremont will wander in out of curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    And WTF is up with dancers not approaching couples?!?!?!?!?!!!!???!?!?! Hasn't word got out yet that couples SPEND MONEY?!
    I don't want word out. Couples are my niche. Couples and girls in general. I bank off them. I don't want people taking that from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    See, I'm with the OP. I have walked out of several clubs and said to the doorman on the way out "I still have $300 of the $400 I walked in with - what's wrong with this picture?" and just left. I do not like to approach girls - especially if I have to do more than tip on stage, i.e., actually get up and approach a girl I like.

    Also - some of you have said that a guy turning down multiple girls is a sign. DEAD WRONG. Can't tell you how many times I've turned down 5 or 6 or more girls waiting for a certain one or one of a certain favorite few to approach. I'm always polite, but I will turn them down all night until one that I like approaches.

    And WTF is up with dancers not approaching couples?!?!?!?!?!!!!???!?!?! Hasn't word got out yet that couples SPEND MONEY?! Sure, if the chick looks like she's hating every second of being there, maybe tread lightly. But damn - it;s like having a GF with e just shuts off the stripper flow instantly. Most recently MM and I went to Glitter Gulch to visit a member here. It took almost 45 minutes for her to get to us. During which time we sat in a booth as follows (this is COMPLETELY TRUE, and blew my mind): Note - I'm going to go into details and drop designer names and whatnot not to be pretentious but to make a point.

    I was dressed in an Armani sport coat with a sharp button up underneath, designer jeans, my favorite Salvatore Ferragamo shoes, Movado watch hard to miss with my arm up on the table, and a fedora. MM was dressed very pin-up girl/rockabilly and hot as hell. And I shit you not, I had something like $500 in one hand, CLREARLY visible, in mixed bills with a huge stack of ones and 100's on the back clearly visible. Sitting in a prominent booth right by the entrance and near the end of the stage. FOR 45 MINUTES. We were not approached ONE. SINGLE. TIME.

    Unbelievable.
    I don't like couples because I can't watch both of them and dancing for women makes me seriously uncomfortable. I'm really tall in my shoe and have long bones so I always feel like I am going to squash her. Also, women have always been very grabby with me.

    Not a fan.

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    Yea. but on the flipside, stage tips at both hustler and barely legal are good, largely for that reason. although at hustler the women expect a lot from the girls on stage, and at barely legal its ok to bring them on stage so its irritating. and for lapdance sales its really not useful.
    I actually dread going on stage at hustler when there's a lot of women there. When the five dancers before you have allowed a female customer to molest them, it's a bummer to have to be the one who says no.
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    I don't like couples because I can't watch both of them and dancing for women makes me seriously uncomfortable. I'm really tall in my shoe and have long bones so I always feel like I am going to squash her. Also, women have always been very grabby with me.

    Not a fan.

    Too bad I'm not in Texas, coz I'd LOVE the opportunity to help you get past the "uncomfortable" thing....and we'll keep at it until we get it right - no matter how many LD's it takes!!

    (and I don't think that you could squish me even if you tried - but you'd be more than welcome to try if you wanna )

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    I don't want word out. Couples are my niche. Couples and girls in general. I bank off them. I don't want people taking that from me.
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    if i see a guy with money out in the open or a guy pull out money and count it, i assume he's gonna be a time waster who'll make me "work" for a dollar then tell me i'm not worth it. guys show off money for attention, not because they actaully want dances. maybe things have changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    I actually dread going on stage at hustler when there's a lot of women there. When the five dancers before you have allowed a female customer to molest them, it's a bummer to have to be the one who says no.
    oh my god, i totally understand that feeling of dread. management was often so disorganized that they wouldnt tell teh DJ when i got in, so i would kind of try to avoid walking in front of the DJ booth until later at night so they wouldnt notice i was there and wouldnt put me on stage. later when it was emptier and there are less girls and usually less women in the club, i liked stage and could usually rake in lots of money. but during peak hours, i would see the girls ahead of me offer way more contact than i am comfortable with on stage and i would have customers give me lip for not being quite as ridiculous.

    the management lets wayyy to much fly on stage their. like girls getting almost off the stage into customers laps: that should not be allowed. but i think that putting a cap on the stage shows is the least of their worries-- i also dont think they would be organized enough to even fix this. i think the top of their worries really should be the inability to efficiently run CR credit cards... that is teh main reason why i stopped working there .

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post

    Also, try leaving some money sitting on your table.
    I think this is a bad idea. What if someone steals it? Then, a drama will have to unfold in order for you to attempt to recover your money.

    I think the thing you need to do is buy a good looking suit. Go in the club, approach a girl, make sure you smile and ask, "How you doing?"

    The rest will be history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mercenary View Post
    I think this is a bad idea. What if someone steals it? Then, a drama will have to unfold in order for you to attempt to recover your money.

    I think the thing you need to do is buy a good looking suit. Go in the club, approach a girl, make sure you smile and ask, "How you doing?"

    The rest will be history.
    Ohh no! you are one of those customers! Buying a suit just for the strip club is like the bait and switch sales technique--- 'hey look at me! im wearing a suit! Im a rich guy! NOT! Just kidding lolololol!'
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    Ohh no! you are one of those customers! Buying a suit just for the strip club is like the bait and switch sales technique--- 'hey look at me! im wearing a suit! Im a rich guy! NOT! Just kidding lolololol!'


    I see where you are going with this but the point I was trying to make was completely different. Let me try it in a different way.

    I have noticed that when I dress nicely people treat me very differently. I think we humans like to hang out with attractive people and although clothes do not make you handsome, they can certainly smooth some rough edges for you. People find it depressing to deal with people who are not dressed properly. I do not see why strip clubs or strippers would be any different. Keep in mind I am not talking about pretending to be something you are not. I am simply talking about look the best you can. What is wrong with that?

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    I see where you are going with this but the point I was trying to make was completely different. Let me try it in a different way.

    I have noticed that when I dress nicely people treat me very differently. I think we humans like to hang out with attractive people and although clothes do not make you handsome, they can certainly smooth some rough edges for you. People find it depressing to deal with people who are not dressed properly. I do not see why strip clubs or strippers would be any different. Keep in mind I am not talking about pretending to be something you are not. I am simply talking about look the best you can. What is wrong with that?
    there is nothing wrong with dressing up to go to the strip club, i was partly being facetious. it sure beats showing up in dirty work clothes if you have a job in construction.

    however, there is a group of customers that are actually very poor and cheap but smart enough to realize that more dancers will approach if they wear a suit. They try to look wealthy, might even lie about having a much better profession than they do, and try to make themselves look like businessmen... and in reality they might be a walmart cashier. But the girls will treat them like they are wealthy until they realize that the guy only has 5$ in his wallet and no bank card. Its a hustle in itself, and a lot of naive dancers do fall for it-- but those of us who are more experienced can usually weed out the fake businessman quickly.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Rarely hath a couple walked into a SC without buying at least ONE dance!
    Rarely in your experience as a customer? Or rarely, as in chris's experience as a stripper...on the job every day, over a number of years? I'd take the professionals experience at face value.

    Now, I was always a fan of dancing for couples as a stripper, and also enjoy going as a couple these days....so no issue with couples and I do wish more strippers would approach.

    Two of my observations:

    1. Often a couple will come in and not get dances because they are too shy to approach a girl, and none of the girls approach them. I've seen it a lot, and have sometimes kicked myself in the stilletto when I've seen a very friendly couple smile at me, tip me on stage...then I wouldn't come up to them because I didn't see good money. Then, I would see them leave, a little butthurt OR they would go spend a ton of money on another girl


    2. If a couple in the club is giving off negative, unfriendly vibes, they have no one but themselves to blame for not getting approached. You know this as well as I do, AJ, so its not going to apply to us, but it does to other couples.

    If you're a couple in the club, you MUST smile, don't slump in your seat with your arms crossed...tip girls onstage often, etc....

    But yeah, if a dancer has enough bad experiences with ANY certain group, she will shy away from them. I think chris knows a bit more about this than any male custy, sorries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mercenary View Post

    I think the thing you need to do is buy a good looking suit. Go in the club, approach a girl, make sure you smile and ask, "How you doing?"
    .
    I tended to avoid guys in suits. Most (not all) guys who wear suits to work AND are spenders will usually at least take off the jacket and tie in the club, loosen some buttons, for comfort. Or, they will change.

    Most of the attorneys and executives I know usually keep a polo shirt in their car, so they can change when they are ready to relax but can't go home.

    This is certainly not ALWAYS true...but its so damn easy to tell if suit guys will spend. Dumb strippers will SWARM them. All I have to do is look over at them for a minute. If they are turning girls away left and right...OR, more often, buying drinks but no dances, then they are duds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWild View Post
    I don't go to clubs often, but when I do, it's to have fun and spend some decent money (say up to a thousand dollars a night). Sometimes, though, it's annoying when the girls don't approach me. Not sure what the problem is. I'm ordinary looking and dress normally (shirt and trousers), and I don't drink alcohol in a club so it's not like I'm drunk.

    I like to have at least a few words with a girl before getting dances. Fact is, girls who do sit down and have a chat with me will get e dances out of me.

    This is on the Gold Coast, Queensland if it makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mercenary View Post
    I think this is a bad idea. What if someone steals it?
    Nobody is going to steal your money from your table in a nice club. I'm not suggesting that you leave a stack on the table while you're in the back getting 10 dances, but you can certainly leave it there while you walk to the stage and tip a girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post

    the management lets wayyy to much fly on stage their. like girls getting almost off the stage into customers laps: that should not be allowed. but i think that putting a cap on the stage shows is the least of their worries-- i also dont think they would be organized enough to even fix this.

    /threadjack
    They used to enforce the rules, and it wouldn't be hard to do again, but it would cost them money in the short run. Every shitty thing that management does at hustler is a direct result of pressure and threats from owners who are never actually at the club. They want them to "get the numbers up".

    I totally hear you on the cr credit card thing. I once did 2 hours with a guy that was actually 4 hours because they took FOREVER to run the damn card. And they want me to tip them out. PFF!
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    Huh - I always dress up when I go out, regardless of where I'm going. Didn't realize this made me look like a fake and a cheapskate, LOL. I'm not wealthy, but we do okay. I'm not a BIG spender, but I'm a consistent one. And I'm always up-front about what I am or am not spending that night (although there have been dancers that made me forget the budget, lol).

    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia
    Rarely in your experience as a customer? Or rarely, as in chris's experience as a stripper...on the job every day, over a number of years? I'd take the professionals experience at face value.
    Seems to be contradicted by...

    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia
    Now, I was always a fan of dancing for couples as a stripper, and also enjoy going as a couple these days....so no issue with couples and I do wish more strippers would approach.

    Two of my observations:

    1. Often a couple will come in and not get dances because they are too shy to approach a girl, and none of the girls approach them. I've seen it a lot, and have sometimes kicked myself in the stilletto when I've seen a very friendly couple smile at me, tip me on stage...then I wouldn't come up to them because I didn't see good money. Then, I would see them leave, a little butthurt OR they would go spend a ton of money on another girl
    ...which perfectly illustrates the point I was attempting to make before.

    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia
    2. If a couple in the club is giving off negative, unfriendly vibes, they have no one but themselves to blame for not getting approached. You know this as well as I do, AJ, so its not going to apply to us, but it does to other couples.
    Thus I get frustrated when we're one of the couples you mentioned in #1, leaving butthurt.

    It's even weirder when I'm ALONE and leave without being approached.

    I am not incapable of approaching a dancer, nor REALLY unwiling whe push comes to shove - but sometimes I get frustrated, like "what's wrong with me that I'm not getting approached? If they aren't going to try to sell me, I"m not going to get up and go offer my money to THEM" lol. Like, if I had to wait around a car lot for a salesperson to show me a car - well, there are other lots and other cars, ya' know?

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