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Last edited by thepinkprincess; 02-17-2010 at 02:15 AM.





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Am I the only one that does NOT want pole dancing in the Olympics?





its a cute idea but i dont think the general society will be very accepting of this as an actual sport when its too sexualised and often associated with porn, seduction, nudity or even prostitution. dance has not been at all very successful with this whole olympic thing dunno why. id sit around for a ballet olympic championship. but i guess we dont want all the soccer moms starting their 6 yr olds in pole classes



I'm with daniella_maria - mainstream appropriation is what has helped kill our industry - Olympics would be the last nail in the coffin!





Pole dancing has already become common and trendy, and it does take a lot of work and athleticism to accomplish. There are plenty of people turning this into a non-sexualized performance style and it's just as much a sport and many other forms of gymnastics or ice skating. I'd like to see competitions from the non-sexual versions of it.
Personally though, I think that if someone believes the pole dancing is what brings people to the clubs then they need to look again. Until recently many strippers didn't even know how to use a pole and our job is supposed to be to perform striptease and to entertain... not just to do tricks on a pole.
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I don't believe customers come in solely for pole dancing. In fact quite the contrary I think they come for conversation and lap dances; but that could be just because of the states I've worked in. I will however be honest and say I have no reason in particular for not wanting it in the Olympics other than it leaves a bad taste iny mouth. I'm just going with my gut feelings.
Yeah I think it would hurt our biz more than help it.




Its a silly silly embaressing idea, who the HELL came up with it?
Ridiculous.
A civilian spends money to look good
A stripper looks good to make money
A civilian may be after your wage
A stripper laughs at your wage



Aspects of stripping being brought into the mainstream hasn't brought strippers any positive outcomes, and I'd argue, neither has it for non-stripper women.
Do we have more legal protection nowadays if we get raped? NO! We're still looked at as "strippers" first and "women" second, and being a stripper still hurts your credibility as a witness or victim.
We still face social and family repercussions for our choice to dance. Non-dancer women continue to see us as a "threat" to their marriages, like non-sex-worker women have about strippers and other sex workers for a LONG time.
An overly sex-saturated culture makes people have to go "further" to get their kicks, sex workers have to go "further" to make $ and women in general have to go "further" to excite men/get men's attention. And boy do they want that attention nowadays, for FREE! I feel like there's this sense among average women that they're "competing" for the camera lens, for the 15 minutes of fame, for the beads, for the free drinks and male attention and fidelity... they're competing w/ women who (to put FOOD on the table, mind you), do the flashing and the teasing and the dancing and sensuality for profit. And the women who do this for profit are looked DOWN upon for it.
And it's pretty one-sided, no? Where's the male-eroticism in all this? In a homophobic culture that values the male gaze and female objectification/exhibitionism, it's women's bodies constantly on display... for whose consumption?
I've only been dancing about a year but as far as I see mainstream attitudes go, it's cool nowadays to LOOK like a stripper, to DANCE like a stripper, and (to my personal annoyance), be NEAR strippers (like groups of girls going to the strip club to hang out/dance around like idiots/shit-talk the dancers). But it's not ok to BE a stripper, marry a stripper, or otherwise be too "close" to one. Girls on this board have talked about some of this stuff in other threads.
I guess my point is that poledancing in the olympics might bring aspects of stripping more and more into the mainstream without "giving anything back" to strippers themselves. That's pretty much how appropriation works.
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