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    Hasn't it been about a month?

    Ok I'm not really asking the question. I'm a veteran both here and in the clubs and can analyze a situation as well as anyone else. *See my answer below.* But I would be interested in any reaction anyone has to the following scenario.

    19 y/o new dancer (20+ years younger than me), I met her 2 weeks after she started, quickly became my fave and been seeing her 2x/week for about a month. First dance she did for me, she said "I'm new, tell me what to do", I did and she followed it step by step. Later she said she did it for another guy and he paid her double price. She was excited about that.

    Our "dances" have gradually evolved into make-out sessions, that's what do mostly. The other day she gave me her number, said call her at midnight after she got off work. I did, but she was pretty stoned and the conversation was not very coherent and lasted only a few minutes.

    Couple of days later she adds me to facebook (her personal site -- we know each other's real data), sends me a msg saying "sorry about the other night, call me anytime!"

    Money facts: I don't give her extra PL money; even if I tip her extra for dances she says "you gave me 85 instead of 75...did you mean to?" Never lets me buy her a drink, says they're too expensive, she'll buy her own. Other day she had made a few hundred, turned a guy down for a dance, came and sat with me, told me about it and said "but you don't have to buy a dance to make up for it."

    Has told me about her boyfriend, says she wants to break up with him, but also tells me all about and points out the bouncer she wants to fuck.

    *My answer*: she does like me, in a personal sense, sees me as both a good potential regular and someone she can be friends with IRL -- and the making out, phone calls, personal contact, are intended to maintain both. But, extremely unlikely she actually likes me "romantically," you generally don't tell someone like that about others you want to fuck, plus our age/life difference is just too great for me to think there is anything romantic going on here.

    Any better analysis?

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    There is nothing she has done that couldn't be SS. Other than that I think you have a pretty good handle on what is going on...

    If you are enjoying it then continue to enjoy it. Why does it have to be anything more than a guy spending money on a cute young stripper?
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    Sounds like you are having fun. It also sounds like you are hoping for more, even though you say the age/life difference is too great.

    Are you married?

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    You're still a customer.

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    She may like you for the moment as something useful to her but tomorrow she'll find someone else useful to her and she'll drop you like a hot potato as her "friend."

    Enjoy it while you can, but I wouldn't count on this dancer as a friend IRL, she's 19-years-old, she's too young for you as a real friend or a romantic interest. You're something to be used by her like a dishrag.

    You're her "friend" as long as she finds you useful to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post

    19 y/o new dancer (20+ years younger than me)
    No, and you should know better.

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    I can't believe you are even posting this. You are her customer. She's making out with you because it is the way many of the young girls keep regulars. She's probably making out with all her other regs as well or any guy that spends enough on her. The guy she turned down to come sit with you was either someone super creepy that she was afraid/too disgusted to dance for or she lied about that. Not having reg's spend petty change on us for things like drinks is another way to make em feel special and keep the good money flowing. It's all just her game. Also, that personal site, might be her fake real info. If she got a vet to tutor her, she's probably got a fake-real name and all the info and life deets to go with it. I knew a bunch of girls with fake real myspaces back in the day.

    Another thing, while I don't think age differences matter much, at 19 kids are still so immature, they most definitely do. Anyone over about 30-35 was Ewww, gross! to anyone I knew back then.
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    There's an easy way of finding out.

    Stop buying dances from her/going to the SC and see if she's still your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    I can't believe you are even posting this. You are her customer. She's making out with you because it is the way many of the young girls keep regulars. She's probably making out with all her other regs as well or any guy that spends enough on her. The guy she turned down to come sit with you was either someone super creepy that she was afraid/too disgusted to dance for or she lied about that. Not having reg's spend petty change on us for things like drinks is another way to make em feel special and keep the good money flowing. It's all just her game. Also, that personal site, might be her fake real info. If she got a vet to tutor her, she's probably got a fake-real name and all the info and life deets to go with it. I knew a bunch of girls with fake real myspaces back in the day.

    Another thing, while I don't think age differences matter much, at 19 kids are still so immature, they most definitely do. Anyone over about 30-35 was Ewww, gross! to anyone I knew back then.
    Collective response to you and most of the others.

    1. I know I'm still a customer.

    2. The facebook is really her, unless she spent several years posting pictures and having friends post to her account (thousands of pictures and entries from 2007-200 just in preparation for the time she's gonna become a stripper in late 2009.

    3. I didn't think she'd worked long enough to have a "game" -- if she was a 2-year vet I would know the score and would never even have posted this. But her being so new, I wondered if she even knows what she's doing.

    4. Yes, the age gap is too big. Doesn't keep it from being fun for now, but her life consists of stripping and drugging and partying and multiple boyfriends and hook-ups -- ok for 19, but except for the club stuff that kind of life is long in my rear view mirror.

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    Sounds like a typical cheap extras girl to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethis View Post
    There's an easy way of finding out.

    Stop buying dances from her/going to the SC and see if she's still your friend.
    Even if we're on our way to being friends, too soon. There has to be a transition period between customer and friend. I mean geez, the grand total of our IRL experience is one phone call and facebooking.

    Done this once before. Spent 6 mos being regular, 3 mos being regular and friend IRL. Then I stopped going to see her at club. 2 years later, we're still friends. Don't plan a time frame that long this time, but 1 month is too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    3. I didn't think she'd worked long enough to have a "game" -- if she was a 2-year vet I would know the score and would never even have posted this. But her being so new, I wondered if she even knows what she's doing.
    Has it occurred to you that you don't really know how old she is or how long she has been working? 20 or 21 can easily pass for 19 and if she's been dancing for more than a few months she has game.
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    I think the real question is... why are YOU a 40 + something man, even remotely think that it is acceptable to have a relationship beyond a friendship with a 19 year old girl.

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    Has it occurred to you that you don't really know how old she is or how long she has been working? 20 or 21 can easily pass for 19 and if she's been dancing for more than a few months she has game.
    I know when she started (she was clearly new plus I know her friend who recruited/started her). I'm a club regular. I know how old she is (her + her FB agree). The facts are as I stated them.

    Hellokitty...you work in a club and you still have to ask this? You must not work days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post

    Hellokitty...you work in a club and you still have to ask this? You must not work days.
    Excuse me what is that suppose to mean? You obviously are a severely disoriented person, to come on to this board to ask if a 19 year old stripper, who has a boyfriend and wants to fuck the bouncer, and makes out with you.... legitimately has some kind of interest in YOU? You must be out of your damn mind. This girl you are talking about obviously has just as many issues as you, if not more, and probably doesn't care about you and wants your money.

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    Helllo, its a strip club. Girls like the one your talking about are all over the place, I am aware of that. But to think that she likes you is whats funny... and even more hilarious that you think you can have a relationship with a poor girl with daddy issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello-kitty View Post
    Excuse me what is that suppose to mean? You obviously are a severely disoriented person, to come on to this board to ask if a 19 year old stripper, who has a boyfriend and wants to fuck the bouncer, and makes out with you.... legitimately has some kind of interest in YOU? You must be out of your damn mind. This girl you are talking about obviously has just as many issues as you, if not more, and probably doesn't care about you and wants your money.
    For the record, I don't think there is any possible way she "cares" about me after knowing me for 1 month in a strip club setting only. Nor do I, for her. That would be delusional and "out of our damn mind," in either direction.

    BUT. I have met literally in the high hundreds of strippers over the past few years, gotten dances from low hundreds, have gotten to know well (ITC anyway) 10-20, and been a hard-core regular of 3. Of all those hundreds, even down to the 3, she is the FIRST to move so fast to OTC, and only the second to make out (not that I tried with her or anyone else; you're in a dance and your faces are close and it just sorta...happens.) So I had to ask, my experience with her being so different from any other I've had, what exactly is going on here?

    My head is on straight. The big one, anyway. (;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I know when she started (she was clearly new plus I know her friend who recruited/started her). I'm a club regular. I know how old she is (her + her FB agree). The facts are as I stated them.

    Hellokitty...you work in a club and you still have to ask this? You must not work days.
    I was always "new" at every new club. Guys like the "I don't know what I'm doing" thing. Luckily, I could pass for 18 or 19 well into my mid 20's. But I do sorta agree with med she sounds like a cheap extras druggie, so ya never know, you might get some...or get shot by her pimp or dealer. Could go either way.v
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    My head is on straight. The big one, anyway. (;
    ---Yeah your head must be on straight. A grown ass man on this "stripperweb" website asking for advice on the stupidest shit ever. Your head is on right buddy, keep telling yourself that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I have met literally in the high hundreds of strippers over the past few years, gotten dances from low hundreds, have gotten to know well (ITC anyway) 10-20, and been a hard-core regular of 3. Of all those hundreds, even down to the 3, she is the FIRST to move so fast to OTC, and only the second to make out (not that I tried with her or anyone else; you're in a dance and your faces are close and it just sorta...happens.) So I had to ask, my experience with her being so different from any other I've had, what exactly is going on here?

    She's like a lot of the 25-and-under crowd (not all) who are morally bankrupt and have no character, respect, standards, loyalty, etc. She's actually just being herself. She probably acts this way OTC with the people she knows. It's sad, really.

    The U.S. is morally (character) and economically bankrupt and she's a shining example of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello-kitty View Post
    ---Yeah your head must be on straight. A grown ass man on this "stripperweb" website asking for advice on the stupidest shit ever.
    I actually can't argue with this.


    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    I was always "new" at every new club. Guys like the "I don't know what I'm doing" thing. Luckily, I could pass for 18 or 19 well into my mid 20's. But I do sorta agree with med she sounds like a cheap extras druggie, so ya never know, you might get some...or get shot by her pimp or dealer. Could go either way.v
    OK there was one fact I omitted, because it is kind of hard to describe. Of all the strippers I've known, I guess 90% or more of what I've heard are "cheap extras" girls have obvious problems -- drug-addicted, real ghetto (black, white, hispanic or asian), can be real unattractive or overweight. In short, from a different socio-economic class or circumstances.

    But this tall, blonde, clean, cheerful girl grew up right in the same part of town I live. She went to a very good high school minutes from my house. She literally comes across as if she could have stepped right off my college pom squad and into my lap.

    Now, my brain tells me none of that keeps her from being a drug-addicted ho. But since she doesn't come across as a low-life skank, her actual skankiness is all that more powerful. That make any sense?

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    Ahhh... all the questions are irrelevant, even if they hadn't been answered a million times already.... bottom line: the more you spend, and the more you obsess, the more intense it will be, the more fun it will be, and the more spectacular the inevitable trainwreck will be.... I say go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post

    But this tall, blonde, clean, cheerful girl grew up right in the same part of town I live. She went to a very good high school minutes from my house. She literally comes across as if she could have stepped right off my college pom squad and into my lap.

    Now, my brain tells me none of that keeps her from being a drug-addicted ho. But since she doesn't come across as a low-life skank, her actual skankiness is all that more powerful. That make any sense?
    None of this matters. She's been sucked into the SC lifestyle. This why I realistically think girls should be able to start stripping until age 21, although that's arguable becauase a girl of any age can get sucked in. But it does seem to happen more frequently with younger girls.

    But imagine this, you're straight out of high school. If you weren't doing this you would be making minimum wage and eating ramen. She's making tons of money, in cash, and hanging out every night in a "party atmosphere", surrounded by people who want a piece of her. She spends more time with old drunks and drug dealers than she probably spends with other girls her age in a university social club or something.

    I have a young dancer friend who is also getting sucked up into the life, and its really concerning me. Maybe you can be a good friend and the voice of reason to her, in addition to a customer.

    Sometimes when girls get too much into the party, its hard to get out.

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    Umm yeah so basically you are asking us if she likes you....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post

    OK there was one fact I omitted, because it is kind of hard to describe. Of all the strippers I've known, I guess 90% or more of what I've heard are "cheap extras" girls have obvious problems -- drug-addicted, real ghetto (black, white, hispanic or asian), can be real unattractive or overweight. In short, from a different socio-economic class or circumstances.

    But this tall, blonde, clean, cheerful girl grew up right in the same part of town I live. She went to a very good high school minutes from my house. She literally comes across as if she could have stepped right off my college pom squad and into my lap.
    Shes young and stupid, you don't need to be "ghetto" or drug addicted to suffer from that. You on the other hand are old and stupid and that's far less forgivable.

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