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    What comes into it other than biology? If a person's brain is incapable of making rational decisions, then how will that person make rational decisions?




    Sure, I can't say that nowhere in the history of time and space has it ever been ok for a 40 year old to mess around with a 19 year old. If the 40 year old were developmentally challenged and the 19 year old had a bionic brain, then maybe it would be okay. There are always exceptions to the rule; however, the rule is: 40 year olds should not mess around with 19 year olds.



    It's not a matter of opinion. You cannot agree or disagree with facts.
    I never met anyone under 24 that would keep my interest long enough anyway. 25 is even pushing it. IMO and this is not to be mean...they are too damn immature and have no clue what real life is all about. As a 30 something i would consider a very mature 25 year old but she would have to be special.

    Anything between 21-24 is just a sexual toy...below 21 is just too uncomfortable and i would feel like a predator.

    Oh and for some reason the 27-33 range is perfect. 27 seems to have been the magic number lately. I love an aggressive woman and single women in this group seem to be very aggressive.
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    1. Being a minor is a matter of law, not biology. The law is flawed in that it defines some children as adults and provides justification for pedophiles to act on their urges.
    As much as I like you, this is not going to go well, lol. Please understand that I respect you and that anything posted here is purely to debate i disagreement, nothing personal. I post that disclaimer because the body of my reply must start with the terrible phrase, "people like you".

    People like you at best piss me off, at worst just disgust me. I'm sure that you'll feel the same way towards me after this, but this should be put out there.

    First of all, don't start quoting science if you don't know the research behind it. DO you WHAT PARTS of the brain are and are not developed at what stages? The parts of the brain associated with mate selection and emotion are some of the FIRST to be finished, most of it before puberty, in fact. The logical parts of the brain associated with higher math and complex logic are the last; and only in very recent society are these parts of the brin of any value in a relationship, LMAO!

    Secondly, don't use scientific basis' to support your conclusions if those conclusions aren't
    technically correct. For one, see above. For another, your terminology is wrong, typical for reactionary activist types. "Pedophilia" is first of all, not in and of itself a crime. It is a technical term for people of either gender and any sexual preference that are attracted primarily to PREpubescent children. The term "pedophile" has been turned into a slur, used to generalize anyone who people like you feel has an unhealthy attraction to someone who YOU feel is too young. While in the case of child molesters the abuse of the technical term is understandable, in the case presently discussed it's just not even remotely accurate. Pedophilia is recognized as a "problem" condition only when it results in behavioral changes and actions that are to the detriment of others. HEMOphilia is the term for those with an attraction to PUBESCENTs, and doesn't actually come up much because the distinction between it and the other two is hard for most. It is also considered "benign" unless it results in the aforementioned behaviors.

    EPHEBOPHELIA is the term you're after here - attraction to POST-pubescents, generally between the ages of 14/15 and 20/21. Note that nothing in any medical journal ANYWHERE regards ephebophilia as a dangerous or even unhealthy condition; and in fact it is more common than the "normal" state; so far as to technically BE the norm. The ONLY reason that any negative connotations exist are legal, having to do with the establishment of "age of consent" laws and the like. Fact is, most human males are genetically wired to seek out post-pubescent mates once their mate nears menopause, and for MOST OF HISTORY it has been PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE to do so. Whether or no they act on it is beside he point; modern "sensibilities" have determined that this completely normal and natural tendency is "wrong", "sick", and "unhealthy".

    The "age of consent" laws were established to place some kind of boundaries on these distinctions. Note that the age of consent is NOT 18, in MOST states in the US it is 16, in a couple it is 15, in a few it's 17, and in 6 or 7 it's 18. I find it funny in a bad way that you say these laws enable "pedophiles", the establishment of these laws actually raised the average age of marriage significantly. SO basically you're saying that before these laws were passed, most of the men in America at least (in most of the rest of the world, it wouldn't be in the past tense) were "pedophiles".

    Please rebut with something other than rhetoric and anger. Facts to support your position would be the weapon of choice here.

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    Anything between 21-24 is just a sexual toy...below 21 is just too uncomfortable and i would feel like a predator.
    Bingo. Attitudes like Chris91's (only picking you out because of your vocal posts as they are a perfect example for the point at hand) have made it so that no male over the age of 25 is allowed to admit he thinks a 17 year old is attractive. If you met a girl in her teens with a far higher than average IQ and a good head on her shoulders who could hold a meaningful conversation with you and didn't come off as shallow, who was attractive physically and who expressed interest in you, the only thing stopping you is fear of being labeled a predator. There should be many, many things that determine your course of action, but being outcast for natural reactions shouldn't be one of them. Any gays here feel like chiming in on that one?!

    What's more, he hypocrisy present is laughable. Why is it okay for a 16 year old to have relations with another teen, but not somebody who is in all likelihood going to be more stable and a better mate, even temporarily? How many 17 year olds today are capable of treating a partner well, taking care of them, understanding the long-term ramifications of decisions, able to give advice based on anything? Basically the attitudes relegating age-gap relationships involving teens relegate people in this age group to sub-standard experiences almost guaranteed to result in long-term issues. Combine that fact with the horrible parenting present in most families today, and the recipe is for disaster.

    And before someone jumps in with comments about the long-term damage caused by "predators", I'll shut you down RIGHT NOW. If you ban all guns, only criminals have guns. If you make it so healthy adults are outcast for pursuing younger mates, or that younger people are told they're wrong for pursuing older mates, you create a situation where the majority of those pursuing these situations are the ones irrational (and so likely unstable) enough to disregard the social stigmas. Stop stringing up every 30 or 40 year old that dates a 15-19 year old and pretty soon you'll see a higher percentage of healthy relations, because it won't be just the sick ones in the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    What comes into it other than biology? If a person's brain is incapable of making rational decisions, then how will that person make rational decisions?




    Sure, I can't say that nowhere in the history of time and space has it ever been ok for a 40 year old to mess around with a 19 year old. If the 40 year old were developmentally challenged and the 19 year old had a bionic brain, then maybe it would be okay. There are always exceptions to the rule; however, the rule is: 40 year olds should not mess around with 19 year olds.



    It's not a matter of opinion. You cannot agree or disagree with facts.
    Wow, this could not be more wrong. There isn't some scientific definition of "child" and "adult" like 2 + 2 = 4. It's ONLY opinion where that line falls, and probably differs for every individual. But for sexual matters, our society has decided to draw the line between child and adult at 18, so I'll go with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    So you're saying don't be a creepy, obsessive stalker. Hm, I'll have to think about that one, it was the direction I was planning to go.

    But if you're saying it won't work......
    Listen smart ass, you are already acting creepy and obsessive. I was trying to be nice and not say it though.

    You can ignore anything else I wrote. I typed it out fast before class and after taking a sudafed. Forgot that from your earlier posts it's obvious that she isn't the coed type. You've already posted that. She may LOOK it, but I WAS that innocent coed, as were about half my co-workers. We were all scared to death of the druggie girls, we weren't doing drugs and certainly weren't making out with customers. She's just got good game.
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    I never met anyone under 24 that would keep my interest long enough anyway. 25 is even pushing it. IMO and this is not to be mean...they are too damn immature and have no clue what real life is all about. As a 30 something i would consider a very mature 25 year old but she would have to be special.

    Anything between 21-24 is just a sexual toy...below 21 is just too uncomfortable and i would feel like a predator.

    Oh and for some reason the 27-33 range is perfect. 27 seems to have been the magic number lately. I love an aggressive woman and single women in this group seem to be very aggressive.
    Have I told you lately that you are one of my favorite people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Bingo. Attitudes like Chris91's (only picking you out because of your vocal posts as they are a perfect example for the point at hand) have made it so that no male over the age of 25 is allowed to admit he thinks a 17 year old is attractive. If you met a girl in her teens with a far higher than average IQ and a good head on her shoulders who could hold a meaningful conversation with you and didn't come off as shallow, who was attractive physically and who expressed interest in you, the only thing stopping you is fear of being labeled a predator. There should be many, many things that determine your course of action, but being outcast for natural reactions shouldn't be one of them. Any gays here feel like chiming in on that one?!

    What's more, he hypocrisy present is laughable. Why is it okay for a 16 year old to have relations with another teen, but not somebody who is in all likelihood going to be more stable and a better mate, even temporarily? How many 17 year olds today are capable of treating a partner well, taking care of them, understanding the long-term ramifications of decisions, able to give advice based on anything? Basically the attitudes relegating age-gap relationships involving teens relegate people in this age group to sub-standard experiences almost guaranteed to result in long-term issues. Combine that fact with the horrible parenting present in most families today, and the recipe is for disaster.

    And before someone jumps in with comments about the long-term damage caused by "predators", I'll shut you down RIGHT NOW. If you ban all guns, only criminals have guns. If you make it so healthy adults are outcast for pursuing younger mates, or that younger people are told they're wrong for pursuing older mates, you create a situation where the majority of those pursuing these situations are the ones irrational (and so likely unstable) enough to disregard the social stigmas. Stop stringing up every 30 or 40 year old that dates a 15-19 year old and pretty soon you'll see a higher percentage of healthy relations, because it won't be just the sick ones in the mix.
    I'm sorry AJ. I could never agree with any 30 or 40 year old dating a 15 yr old. It would make me wonder what was wrong with them and why they couldn't find a woman closer to their age. Girls that young are impressionable. Hell, at 15, I had only had my period for a year. And I have dated someone thirteen years older than myself, I was 26 he was 39. Difference being, we were both mature adults, not teens in the throes of adolescence, dealing with social and emotional issues that the purported "parter" had dealt with over twenty years before their birth.

    If I had a 15, or 16 year old daughter, I would never allow them to date someone who was in my age bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    I'm sorry AJ. I could never agree with any 30 or 40 year old dating a 15 yr old. It would make me wonder what was wrong with them and why they couldn't find a woman closer to their age. Girls that young are impressionable. Hell, at 15, I had only had my period for a year. And I have dated someone thirteen years older than myself, I was 26 he was 39. Difference being, we were both mature adults, not teens in the throes of adolescence, dealing with social and emotional issues that the purported "parter" had dealt with over twenty years before their birth.

    If I had a 15, or 16 year old daughter, I would never allow them to date someone who was in my age bracket.
    I'd go out and gut the older person in question myself. Entrails everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Bingo. Attitudes like Chris91's (only picking you out because of your vocal posts as they are a perfect example for the point at hand) have made it so that no male over the age of 25 is allowed to admit he thinks a 17 year old is attractive. If you met a girl in her teens with a far higher than average IQ and a good head on her shoulders who could hold a meaningful conversation with you and didn't come off as shallow, who was attractive physically and who expressed interest in you, the only thing stopping you is fear of being labeled a predator. There should be many, many things that determine your course of action, but being outcast for natural reactions shouldn't be one of them. Any gays here feel like chiming in on that one?!

    What's more, he hypocrisy present is laughable. Why is it okay for a 16 year old to have relations with another teen, but not somebody who is in all likelihood going to be more stable and a better mate, even temporarily? How many 17 year olds today are capable of treating a partner well, taking care of them, understanding the long-term ramifications of decisions, able to give advice based on anything? Basically the attitudes relegating age-gap relationships involving teens relegate people in this age group to sub-standard experiences almost guaranteed to result in long-term issues. Combine that fact with the horrible parenting present in most families today, and the recipe is for disaster.

    And before someone jumps in with comments about the long-term damage caused by "predators", I'll shut you down RIGHT NOW. If you ban all guns, only criminals have guns. If you make it so healthy adults are outcast for pursuing younger mates, or that younger people are told they're wrong for pursuing older mates, you create a situation where the majority of those pursuing these situations are the ones irrational (and so likely unstable) enough to disregard the social stigmas. Stop stringing up every 30 or 40 year old that dates a 15-19 year old and pretty soon you'll see a higher percentage of healthy relations, because it won't be just the sick ones in the mix.
    Ok, with that being said, what are your thoughts about NAMBLA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    First of all, don't start quoting science if you don't know the research behind it. DO you WHAT PARTS of the brain are and are not developed at what stages? The parts of the brain associated with mate selection and emotion are some of the FIRST to be finished, most of it before puberty, in fact. The logical parts of the brain associated with higher math and complex logic are the last; and only in very recent society are these parts of the brin of any value in a relationship, LMAO!

    Please rebut with something other than rhetoric and anger. Facts to support your position would be the weapon of choice here.
    Since I haz the background can I just point out a few things? I AM NOT gonna reason about why it's okay or not, cause I like you and don't wanna hate you for another couple of weeks till I cool off. But this one thing was just buggin me cause I've had so many neurology classes and just went over this crap in A&P. hehe, It was on my test Wednesday, which I got a 98% on. (k, I'm done bragging now! hehe.)

    Okay, the mate selection parts of the brain are developed early...but those just tell you who is most likely to be fertile. Can we agree on that? Now this part of your brain will not tell you what relationships won't damage you psychologically, right? (Which, ya I know, it doesn't damage EVERY single girl, but it does a good amount you must admit.)

    So the frontal parts of the brain are now thought to be developing until around 30 (which totally supports how I felt, btw). These parts are NOT just for advanced functions like math. They control reasoning, decision making and self or impulse control.

    Sooo, it makes sense that the younger you are the more difficult it may be to make an informed, logical decision, correct? This totally supports my theory that peeps shouldn't be allowed to have kids till they are 30 btw.

    While this work suggests a wave of brain white matter development that flows from front to back, animal, functional brain imaging and postmortem studies have suggested that gray matter maturation flows in the opposite direction, with the frontal lobes not fully maturing until young adulthood. To confirm this in living humans, the UCLA researchers compared MRI scans of young adults, 23-30, with those of teens, 12-16.4 They looked for signs of myelin, which would imply more mature, efficient connections, within gray matter. As expected, areas of the frontal lobe showed the largest differences between young adults and teens. This increased myelination in the adult fro[ntal cortex likely relates to the maturation of cognitive processing and other "executive" functions. Parietal and temporal areas mediating spatial, sensory, auditory and language functions appeared largely mature in the teen brain. The observed late maturation of the frontal lobe conspicuously coincides with the typical age-of-onset of schizophrenia—late teens, early twenties—which, as noted earlier, is characterized by impaired "executive" functioning.
    http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publi...et/index.shtml

    Here's the link where this quote came from. If you looksie online though, you'll find a lot of papers that agree with this. I picked the first one I found on brain development that interpreted actual study results.

    There's literally a bazillion places to look up frontal lobe functions, more specifically "executive" functions, so I won't insult you by posting a zillion links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity
    I'm sorry AJ. I could never agree with any 30 or 40 year old dating a 15 yr old. It would make me wonder what was wrong with them and why they couldn't find a woman closer to their age.
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    Thank you for so concisely making my point. BTW, only 2 generations back, few people felt that way.

    NAMBLA and a few other organizations like them from other perspectives are largely leftovers from the Kinsey days. They're out of touch. The responses above are indicative of the pendulum swinging the other way, a process that started in the mid '70's, got traction in the '80's, and really started to progress in the late '90's. It's just as wrong.

    We can both quote differnt brain studies all day. Many show very different results. There are two consistent findings in every really good brain study ever funded. First, that the brain is more developed at earlier stages than previously thought. Second, that the brain continues to develop far longer than previously thought. side from those two consistencies, few studies have very similar findings. The whole of brain science is very, very young, lol.

    It really all comes down to individuals anyway. I know 15 year olds who are perfectly capable of running their lives - and relationships - better than most adults I know. I know 40 year olds who shouldn't be on their own - and I don't mean developmental issues or retardation, etc, I mean MATURITY. From the other side of the coin, there are sickos who shouldn't be allowed to date ANYONE and certainly not younger, less experienced individuals, and there are really caring and careful people out there who could very easily be the best thing that could happen to a confused and distracted teenager, even in a relationship.

    Thanks for being civil everybody.
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    Thank you for so concisely making my point. BTW, only 2 generations back, few people felt that way.

    NAMBLA and a few other organizations like them from other perspectives are largely leftovers from the Kinsey days. They're out of touch. The responses above are indicative of the pendulum swinging the other way, a process that started in the mid '70's, got traction in the '80's, and really started to progress in the late '90's. It's just as wrong.

    We can both quote differnt brain studies all day. Many show very different results. There are two consistent findings in every really good brain study ever funded. First, that the brain is more developed at earlier stages than previously thought. Second, that the brain continues to develop far longer than previously thought. side from those two consistencies, few studies have very similar findings. The whole of brain science is very, very young, lol.

    It really all comes down to individuals anyway. I know 15 year olds who are perfectly capable of running their lives - and relationships - better than most adults I know. I know 40 year olds who shouldn't be on their own - and I don't mean developmental issues or retardation, etc, I mean MATURITY. From the other side of the coin, there are sickos who shouldn't be allowed to date ANYONE and certainly not younger, less experienced individuals, and there are really caring and careful people out there who could very easily be the best thing that could happen to a confused and distracted teenager, even in a relationship.

    Thanks for being civil everybody.
    Only 2 generations back, my grandma was trying to sell her children for chickens in Africa. I really don't see the correlation between just 2 generations ago people did crazy things, and wanting to gut someone 35+ dating my 15-16 year old daughter. Sure, be a really caring careful authority figure, role model, and mentor in my child's life. But a relationship? Buy her flowers and earrings and make her feel like a princess like some cute old uncle, sure. But a physical relationship?

    I mean ignoring that I'd not be happy with her being in a srs bsns relationship and not more focused on school in those important GCSE years, I just don't see how that would work. Either the man is much, much more experienced and mature than her, and much more capable of manipulation and hurt, or he's all kinds of fucked up, immature, and having some trippy second adolescence in which he actually loses his virginity.

    I think the pendulum has just now started climbing back up the other way - this is the middle and I fail to see what's wrong with it on the same level as say, groups of men that love little boys.
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    God I hate what this thread has devolved into. A bunch of PLs and strippers debating brain science? I don't even take at face value what BRAIN SCIENTISTS say about childhood/adulthood, since there is no certainty, and the dividing line is just a judgment call anyway.

    Princess, in what way am I acting like a creepy stalker? I've called the girl once (at her invitation), no texts, no personal appearances, she comes running when I show up in the club. Am I doing something creepy I don't know about?

    Spent much of the afternoon with her and we're going to lunch tomorrow. Not for pay. Hope I can avoid acting too creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    God I hate what this thread has devolved into. A bunch of PLs and strippers debating brain science? I don't even take at face value what BRAIN SCIENTISTS say about childhood/adulthood, since there is no certainty, and the dividing line is just a judgment call anyway.

    Princess, in what way am I acting like a creepy stalker? I've called the girl once (at her invitation), no texts, no personal appearances, she comes running when I show up in the club. Am I doing something creepy I don't know about?

    Spent much of the afternoon with her and we're going to lunch tomorrow.
    Not for pay. Hope I can avoid acting too creepy.
    I think this is what she means? I mean if she genuinely likes you that's awesome, good for you, and I hope you can deal with being in a relationship with that kind of person.

    However - this whole thread just makes me, personally, think she doesn't so much like you in a special way, as like your money, and that she's a little slow on the uptake. So spending lots of time OTC could be seen as a little off.
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    Either the man is much, much more experienced and mature than her, and much more capable of manipulation and hurt, or he's all kinds of fucked up, immature, and having some trippy second adolescence in which he actually loses his virginity.
    So those are absolutely the ONLY two options, are they? Really? And this is a fair and balanced perspective on the topic? LMAO.

    Either girls who decide to strip are victims of abuse whose moral compass is off, or they're seriously fucked up in the head and have myriad other issues that need help. Certainly no healthy minded woman would choose exotic dancing as a career!

    Apples:apples - gotta love it.

    Nobody has explained yet why a young person is somehow better off being limited to people just as immature as they are and likely MORE prone to messed up behavior than they are by expanding their options to include stable, caring adults. Either gender goes here.

    Lets look at it like this: A certain percentage of people are )so science tells us) born wired wrong - prone to "bad" behaviors of many different shapes and sizes. FOr now, we'll focus on teh abusive ones and the sexual predators. The number of people born with these "problems" is going to remain fairly balanced from generation to generation, within standard deviations. As these people age, a certain percentage of them are going to get the help they need and become productive and balanced individuals - again, according to science. Another percentage are going to get caught and locked up. So statistically, there are MORE fucked up weirdos under the age of 20 than over the age of 30 - fewer have been helped or caught or both. That is say, for every registered sex offender in your neighborhood, there are one or two younger ones that haven't been branded yet. Simple math, pretty damned irrefutable, though I invite anyone to take a shot.

    In fact, if you really look at it from a straight logical standpoint with your fully developed over the age of 25 brain, I would think I wouldn't let my kid date anyone UNDER 25. It literally makes more sense. So again - why are teens better off being limited to other teens? There has not been a decent rebuttal or argument yet, just a lot of rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    God I hate what this thread has devolved into. A bunch of PLs and strippers debating brain science? I don't even take at face value what BRAIN SCIENTISTS say about childhood/adulthood, since there is no certainty, and the dividing line is just a judgment call anyway.

    Princess, in what way am I acting like a creepy stalker? I've called the girl once (at her invitation), no texts, no personal appearances, she comes running when I show up in the club. Am I doing something creepy I don't know about?

    Spent much of the afternoon with her and we're going to lunch tomorrow. Not for pay. Hope I can avoid acting too creepy.
    Actually neurologists are pretty certain. They use functional MRI's to show elevated brain activity in isolated areas of the brain in response to different stimuli to determine which areas control which functions. They can then easily determine which areas are developed and which are not.

    Oh, and the creepy factor comes in from you being obsessive enough to start this thread. If you are spending that much time thinking about her that is a HUGE stalker red flag, imo. Of course, I'll admit, I've dealt with more than my fair share of stalkers so I'm spooked pretty easily.

    AJ, I was interested to know if you were correct and I was misinformed, so I went hunting around the web for info (actual scientific articles and such, yanno I'm a stickler for that). What I found shocked me actually. The new thing seems to be they think our frontal lobe is developing slower than normal and they are speculating that it is due to lack of physical activity (I'll admit that is a new one for me) or dependence on tech. So I'm not sure what you are talking about.

    ETA - I probably won't be able to respond back tonight. I have a 4 hour exam an hour away and I haz to be there at 7:30am. BOO!!
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    I can only speak from my experience, but every older guy who tried to date me when I was a teenager was a total fucking loser.

    This 24 year old guy tried to date me when I was 13. He and his boys used to buy us alcohol. Pathetic.

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    So those are absolutely the ONLY two options, are they? Really? And this is a fair and balanced perspective on the topic? LMAO.

    Either girls who decide to strip are victims of abuse whose moral compass is off, or they're seriously fucked up in the head and have myriad other issues that need help. Certainly no healthy minded woman would choose exotic dancing as a career!

    Apples:apples - gotta love it.

    Nobody has explained yet why a young person is somehow better off being limited to people just as immature as they are and likely MORE prone to messed up behavior than they are by expanding their options to include stable, caring adults. Either gender goes here.

    Lets look at it like this: A certain percentage of people are )so science tells us) born wired wrong - prone to "bad" behaviors of many different shapes and sizes. FOr now, we'll focus on teh abusive ones and the sexual predators. The number of people born with these "problems" is going to remain fairly balanced from generation to generation, within standard deviations. As these people age, a certain percentage of them are going to get the help they need and become productive and balanced individuals - again, according to science. Another percentage are going to get caught and locked up. So statistically, there are MORE fucked up weirdos under the age of 20 than over the age of 30 - fewer have been helped or caught or both. That is say, for every registered sex offender in your neighborhood, there are one or two younger ones that haven't been branded yet. Simple math, pretty damned irrefutable, though I invite anyone to take a shot.

    In fact, if you really look at it from a straight logical standpoint with your fully developed over the age of 25 brain, I would think I wouldn't let my kid date anyone UNDER 25. It literally makes more sense. So again - why are teens better off being limited to other teens? There has not been a decent rebuttal or argument yet, just a lot of rhetoric.
    Uh, yes. Those are the only two options. He's either a reasonably mature adult, which is a lot more mature than a 15-16 year old, or reasonably immature for his age, which is inappropriate. Is there like some third level of maturity in which one is not mature but not not mature? If not, those really are the only 2 ways it can go.

    Stable caring adults can be part of a child's life in a non sexual way. I would indeed be of the opinion that anyone around 35+, in a physical relationship with a 15-16 year old, is not stable. I mean it's illegal in many places, so to risk the ire of the law over a girl when you could just wait a few years or find tail somewhere else, to me, means that person's a little unhinged.

    I'd much rather my 15-16 year old child was dating another 15-16 year old child precisely because they are stupid. Because things are a bigger deal to another 15-16 year old. They're easier to impress - and to intimidate. Because they can talk about age relevant things together. Because they don't have cars. Because they'll likely have mutual friends, hobbies, and experiences. Because no one will ask if their teenage partner is their mom or dad. Because a relationship is about equals.

    Because like KS_Stevia, I've been there, done that, and I have yet to meet the caring, stable adult, that thinks it's okay to act on his urges to bone a 15-16 year old.
    Get the fuck off my harbl, yo'.

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    "Am I doing something creepy I don't know about?"

    Obsessing over whether a 19 year-old (or any age) stripper likes you is what's creepy. If she does or if she doesn't you seem to be headed for an emotional train wreck when the truth is revealed. We've all hinted at what the truth usually is for PL/RIL situations and like most you have to hit that concrete wall also known as reality. When you do I hope you don't blame her for playing you because ALL the red flags are there:

    19 years old.

    A stripper.

    Wants to fuck someone ELSE and tells you that.

    Her hustle may or may not be up to speed but that's what the dressing rooms are for. They're for the vets to school the rookies in RLs, RIL, RIJs, Whales, Sugar Daddys and how to keep the lights on, the rent paid, gas in the car, food on the table, weed in their boyfriend's pocket, tuition taken care of WITH YOUR MONEY.

    What's CREEPY is that you don't see all this but say you do but keep going on until the train tracks start straining from the delusions.

    Before the year is over she's going to meet over ONE THOUSAND GUYS while she's naked. The law of averages say that a certain percentage are going to be asking themselves "Does she really like me?"

    And the better her hustle gets the number of guys who ask themselves that question is going to increase. If it doesn't then she has no game or hustle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Pedophilia is recognized as a "problem" condition only when it results in behavioral changes and actions that are to the detriment of others. HEMOphilia is the term for those with an attraction to PUBESCENTs,
    K, first I only think this is a problem because it DOES cause emotional harm to the younger person in the majority of cases. 2nd, gotta ask...did you mean hebephilia? I really don't think you meant Hemophilia, a group of clotting disorders that cause people to bleed excessively.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Nobody has explained yet why a young person is somehow better off being limited to people just as immature as they are and likely MORE prone to messed up behavior than they are by expanding their options to include stable, caring adults. Either gender goes here.
    Because the balance of power is equal in these relationships. Yanno, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and it doesn't matter if you want it or not, in almost all relationships with a girl that young (15, not 19) you WILL have that much power. They see older mates as authority figures as well as romantic interests in nearly all cases. This causes their feeling to be magnified...yep, even more so than when they are being all dramatic and stupid with each other. That's why all my friends that dated older guys in HS ended up committing or attempting suicide or just became drugged out (and we were good girl honor students), and you wouldn't believe the dramaz that we had to hear about during the time they were fucking the old guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    In fact, if you really look at it from a straight logical standpoint with your fully developed over the age of 25 brain, I would think I wouldn't let my kid date anyone UNDER 25. It literally makes more sense. So again - why are teens better off being limited to other teens? There has not been a decent rebuttal or argument yet, just a lot of rhetoric.
    It was in one of your earlier posts that I accidentally deleted...when you said "even temporarily." I think that is the crux of the issue most of us girls have. We've all seen our friends and peers date older men and seen the results. The girl usually falls hard and fast, moreso than with a guy her age. Then realizes the guy only wants her for sex...maybe he even thought he was interested or "in love" but then her immaturity came through and he changed his mind. Well, a 30 year old has the emotional maturity to handle that kind of a broken heart, whereas the 15 year old is likely to slit her wrists, or start using drugs or getting wasted to "forget" about her broken heart.

    Oh, and the reference to how it was acceptable in recent history is laughable...it was also acceptable to rape your wife, or any peasant girl you wanted to. So, as you would tell us, don't give me that garbage.

    Finally, I'll say, that while in MOST cases I think it is inexcusable and causes harm, I do agree that it isn't always going to be bad every single time, in every single case. But when you've seen so many young people hurt by it, WHY not just say... Ok, because of the potential to cause harm, I'm not going to do that. That's where my whole issue is in this debate I think. It just seems selfish. And I also notice that almost all of the women, who have actually been teenage girls, seem to think it's innapropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post
    Uh, yes. Those are the only two options. He's either a reasonably mature adult, which is a lot more mature than a 15-16 year old, or reasonably immature for his age, which is inappropriate. Is there like some third level of maturity in which one is not mature but not not mature? If not, those really are the only 2 ways it can go.

    Stable caring adults can be part of a child's life in a non sexual way. I would indeed be of the opinion that anyone around 35+, in a physical relationship with a 15-16 year old, is not stable. I mean it's illegal in many places, so to risk the ire of the law over a girl when you could just wait a few years or find tail somewhere else, to me, means that person's a little unhinged.

    I'd much rather my 15-16 year old child was dating another 15-16 year old child precisely because they are stupid. Because things are a bigger deal to another 15-16 year old. They're easier to impress - and to intimidate. Because they can talk about age relevant things together. Because they don't have cars. Because they'll likely have mutual friends, hobbies, and experiences. Because no one will ask if their teenage partner is their mom or dad. Because a relationship is about equals.

    Because like KS_Stevia, I've been there, done that, and I have yet to meet the caring, stable adult, that thinks it's okay to act on his urges to bone a 15-16 year old.
    Ditto on all this. Wish I'd read this before I wrote out my mini-novella. lol This says it all I think.
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    Wow, pretty intense thread... two comments

    1. The idealized "15-16 year old" discussed in some of these posts is in no way relevant to the dancer described by the OP. What a bizarre tangent...

    2. The trainwreck is inevitable. What is not inevitable is that it will be spectacular or destructive. The best that can be hoped for is a relatively painless derailment preceded by:
    a. a lot of money for her
    b. a lot of fun for him

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    Keep the conversation about 18+ ladies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot View Post
    Wow, pretty intense thread... two comments

    1. The idealized "15-16 year old" discussed in some of these posts is in no way relevant to the dancer described by the OP. What a bizarre tangent...

    2. The trainwreck is inevitable. What is not inevitable is that it will be spectacular or destructive. The best that can be hoped for is a relatively painless derailment preceded by:
    a. a lot of money for her
    b. a lot of fun for him
    There will be no train wreck, spectacular or otherwise. There will be no heartbreak or longing or angst or creepiness or stalking. It's always a possibility (it happens, especially among newbies) that tomorrow she doesn't show up for work, and never comes in again. If so, life goes on.

    Some of you act like I'm some kind of first time visitor wondering if the stripper really loves me, or if it's an act. This is not my first rodeo, people.

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