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    Last week I went to a shrink and told him I was diagnosed with ADD as a kid. He prescribed me Adderall and its really been helping me focus in school a lot. Only problem is, I lied! I was never diagnosed with ADD as a kid; I just thought it would make the whole thing easier. I really do think I have ADD and am not using the Adderall to get high. I stupidly gave him my pediatrician and childhood psychologist's names and now I’m worried he will call. Can they give out information about me to him? He had me sign something at the end but he said it was for insurance. Also, he gave me 4 refills of the prescription. Does this mean he trusted me?
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    You need to always throughly READ everything BEFORE you sign it!!
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    Duuuude. That's pretty bad considering Adderall is a controlled substance. Your doctor could get in trouble for prescribing you medication you don't actually need. And yes he may very well call for a history, which could put you on the platform known as Drug Seeking Behaviour, whether you truly are or not. That's what it will look like.

    Go back and explain. Never, ever lie to your doctors. Of course he trusted you! How would any doctors make any diagnosis if they don't trust what the patient is saying?

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    Yeah, I know I messed up. It wasn't done out of malice, more just not really thinking it out too clearly. I didn't want to have to go through a bunch of tests and I didn't see the harm in it at the time. So my old doctors are allowed to give him info about me?

    Oh and the form wasn't really text, just a bunch of red boxes and he asked me to sign in a certain one.

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    ^^ Yes, records are transferred all the time. That's how new physicians get histories on their patients.

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    There is an excellent chance he'll follow up with your previous doctors to see what exactly their diagnosis was, as there are subtle variations within ADD, as well as what kind of dosage they may have given you, so he can adjust accordingly.

    I would call him and explain, as otherwise, he WILL find out, and assume you're just another girl looking for drugs.

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    I'm not sure, but I don't think he can get your records without your approval under HIPAA laws. I still think it's a good idea to go back to him and explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    I'm not sure, but I don't think he can get your records without your approval under HIPAA laws. I still think it's a good idea to go back to him and explain.
    Not true. Many people think HIPAA keeps your info safe; it doesn't. Some employers, government workers, police, school districts all have access to your health information without your consent.

    And from the HIPAA site:
    "To make sure that your health information is protected in a way that does not interfere with your health care, your information can be used and shared:

    * For your treatment and care coordination"



    In order to properly treat a client, a doctor MUST have previous info, diagnosis, and treatments, to make sure none of his prescriptions interfere.

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    Eh, I know I shouldn't give contradicting advice, and you really shouldn't EVAR lie to doctors chika!

    BUT - FWIW, I did something similar when in therapy when I was in HS. I said I was diagnosed with ADD, and generally - doctors and therapists will only prescribe medication if THEY are able to see symptoms of whatever you said. I was also given adderall. It didn't do shit for me but that's beside the point.

    If they ask questions or your history comes back with no diagnosis from a medical DR, tell him it was an elementary school counselor who "diagnosed" you, and only behavioral therapy was used. Let him know the adderall is helping! I don't think you have anything serious to worry about.
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    You probably had to sign off on HIPAA to even see the Dr. They have a right to order your records, so there is a chance they will order them and will probably see it if they bother reading through. However, dr. offices are usually SO busy and understaffed, that no one will actually go through your entire medical record unless there is a good reason for it...like they are running diagnostics on an undetermined condition, you had a bad reaction to medication, whatever you are taking now isn't working and you report it, etc, etc.

    95% chance you'll be just fine and your dr. won't go through your records even if they are ordered. Don't do anything...admitting you lied WILL go on your recent history (versus pediatric records which are not as likely to be analyzed without compelling reason) and you might have trouble ever getting prescribed meds again, even if you need them.

    Anyone else here seen medical records ordered through HIPAA Act? I used to have to order and analyze them for a job. Its a HUGE PIA to go through the process of getting them. And often, they can be hard to read because they are transcribed and faxed. The Dr. isn't going to go through them without diagnostic reason, or unless there is a complication or inefficacy from his original diagnosis and prescribed treatment.

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    You likely signed a Medical Release form for your doctor to obtain your previous medical records as needed. Sorry to say that you put both yourself and your doctor in a potentially hazardous situation; it could involve an investigation into his license but if you tell the doc, he may be able to correct this. If you have symptoms, you really do need a diagnosis. You know, it could be something other than ADD.
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    Default Re: I did something stupid!

    Medical records cannot be transfered without your consent! My insurance company went back 5 years with me for a claim they didnt want to pay and I had to sign consent. Its called hepa act I believe but they cant just give out your info.

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    She has likely already signed it. Most doctors won't even see a patient without them signing off on HIPAA. Its for the patient's benefit, and also for the doctor, so he/she can look into the patients history if needed. So, if the doctor does feel the need to look it up, dr. will see that she has never been officially diagnosed with ADD nor prescribed meds for it.

    Doesn't mean that the dr. will. However, audits do happen. I still wouldn't worry about it if I were the OP...if you do have a bad reaction to the stuff though, I guarantee they WILL look into it if you report it.

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    The only thing he had me sign looked exactly like this:

    http://www.drsforms-systems.com/hcfa...wimprinted.htm
    He told me it was for insurance. This one says it's for insurance too. He also gave me a little, anything we talk about is confidential speech about how he couldn't talk to my mom if she called him.

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    ^Insurance forms ALWAYS have a box or signature place stating you allow the doctor to retrieve your records (i.e. looking up the last time you had an annual exam, to make sure your insurance will cover it), which includes your previous medical history.

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    In case it is ADHD here is some info on a much less hazardouns new medicine:

    Atomoxetine (Strattera)
    Atomoxetine (Strattera) was recently approved by the FDA for the treatment of ADHD in children, adolescents and adults. It is a potent selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. It is the first nonstimulant medication to be approved by the FDA for the treatment of ADHD and the first medication of any kind specifically approved for the treatment of ADHD in adults.41 It lacks the abuse potential of stimulants, and since it is not a controlled Schedule II drug, atomoxetine can be prescribed with refills and on the phone.

    Atomoxetine was approved for once or twice daily dosing, but so far there is only published controlled data in adults on twice a day dosing.44 While the effects of stimulants are almost immediate, atomoxetine takes longer to produce a response. In terms of its effectiveness, a preliminary open label study in children indicated that its effectiveness might be similar to that of stimulants.42 It may be useful in adults with ADHD and co–existing depression and/or anxiety, but controlled data is not yet available for atomoxetine's efficacy in this population.

    It is not clear what atomoxetine's role in the treatment of adult ADHD will eventually be. It certainly looks very promising and will likely either be another first line medication, like psychostimulants, or a first second line medication after stimulants.

    Side Effects of Atomoxetine
    In controlled studies of adults, atomoxetine was associated with cardiovascular side effects including increased heart rate of five beats per minute and an increase in blood pressure of 3 mm Hg for systolic and 1 mm Hg for diastolic blood pressure. No controlled studies comparing the cardiovascular effects of atomoxetine and of stimulants have yet been published. Atomoxetine use has not been seen with the cardiac side effects associated with tricyclic antidepressants. Other side effects can include dry mouth, insomnia, nausea, constipation, decreased appetite, dizziness, decreased libido, erectile disturbance, and urinary retention, hesitation or difficulty.41 In a long–term, open label study of atomoxetine, two–thirds of adults with ADHD continued to have a positive therapeutic response through an average of 34 weeks.

    That is from: http://www.addresources.org/article_...tion_chadd.php

    (The whole page is too much for me to read too. So, do I have ADHD or ADD?)
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    If I were you I would NOT admit to lying about it. Maybe you could pull of saying that you were mistaken and were never officially diagnosed?
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