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    I was checking out a camgirl forum and I saw a post by one of the black camgirls there and she was talking about why black camgirls don't make as much as caucasian camgirls. It's a known fact that black camgirls don't go the extra mile. I mean let's get real, Have you ever checked out the black camgirl's on these sites? They look a hot mess! They don't clean their room, HAVE HORRIBLE LIGHTING, don't do their hair, just lay there and stare at the screen .. some even play rap music that cause clients to leave their room then they wonder why they aren't making money.

    This is the post I was referring to by Icemocha. She also gives alot of damn good advice that everyone on both sides both black and white should take into consideration.

    Lorrie,

    I agree with you. I'm black and I''m still a newbie...been doing this for 4 months now on Naked.com. I've found it 50/50. 50% of my clients are Black and the others are Caucasian with a few Asian occationally. I hope you don't get angry at me for expressing myself, but this need to be said, "We have got to do better!!!" And I'm sure you do, but many of us don't.

    Although I would like to see a site catered to us, some of us black women must do damn better. Thanks for letting me get that out...finally! I've observed some of the Black girls in free chat on Naked.com and other sites and some of us don't dress up, we dont use make-up, or clean our rooms, or we play rap music too loud or even DONT do our hair....WTF....some of them look a hot ASS mess. Pls, don't get me wrong...not all women need to wear makeup, but if you have bad acne or bad skin or a nasty scar...cover it up just for the camera to look more desirable and attract more guys. We must not forget we are giving the guys a fantasy so let's play the role, ladies. Lorrie, I think you'll agree with me. I'm not trying to be cruel, but it's the truth.

    I've had guys come into my chatroom talking how nasty other black girls look and how nasty their attitudes are. How do some of these chicks think they'll make a dollar looking a hot-ass mess?! I even observed one girl last Sunday night...talking on the phone and lookin at the camara...she kept typing hello, but no one would reply...duhhh you on the phone and discussing how mad you are at someone else....WTF...can we show a little professionalism for our business! One chick even CUSSED out 2 guys when the guy asked her to show him her ass and she replied, "Show me ur di*k, first"....again Lorrie...WTF. I can go on and on...but I'm not. Well.......just 1 more thing Lorrie....can you tell Black chicks to sign-on. I work at Naked.com and I haven't seen more than 15 African American girls signed on at one time and there are currently 756 Ebony models and I'm always checkn the site throughout the day since I started in March. I've noticed Naked.com would place Latin girls in the "Ebony" category when no or a few African-American girls are on.

    OOOOOh Lorrie, I got 1 more...we need to update our pictures and take time to take a quality pic without baby monitors and unmade beds in the background--it makes the pics looks shabby. I add new pics about every 3 weeks...even if its 2 or 4 to keep a fresh image and I swear by Paint.Net (a free site) which allows you to upload ur pics and do photo enhancements...it has tutorials to help you do simple things to make ur pics go from Polaroid quality to GLAMOUR SHOTS for free!!! Im still learning, but I grasped the basics in 1 day and its SOOOOOO simple and quick to enhance ur pics. Check it out! Having fresh pics work for me since I have regulars requesting some of the new outfits in pvt. One regular always request the same black dress at least 3-4 times/week. There you have it, Lorrie.

    Of course, Lorrie, I know this is a small %, but its happening too much and it doesn't help. I just always put forth my best effort in anything I do...even if it include doing PORN dammit....lol. However, I do get to benefit from this since I sign in regularly and make sure my makeup, wig, props, backdrops, outfits, accessories and lipgloss are POPPIN'! However, 1 day I would like 2 be one of the top earners.

    I even noticed my numbers increased within the last month when I started wearing this new long curly blonde wig and the guys (bk and wh) love it EVEN WOMEN has given me compliments on the new hair color. So, Lorrie, if you do find a site for black women, pls let me know...I'm def interested.

    Lorrie, I hope this helped in your reasoning and will encourage some black women to up their game and help get us closer to being top performers.
    We DO need to step our game up! Please discuss..

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    I was checking out a camgirl forum and I saw a post by one of the black camgirls there and she was talking about why black camgirls don't make as much as caucasian camgirls. It's a known fact that black camgirls don't go the extra mile. I mean let's get real, Have you ever checked out the black camgirl's on these sites? They look a hot mess! They don't clean their room, HAVE HORRIBLE LIGHTING, don't do their hair, just lay there and stare at the screen .. some even play rap music that cause clients to leave their room then they wonder why they aren't making money.

    This is the post I was referring to by Icemocha. She also gives alot of damn good advice that everyone on both sides both black and white should take into consideration.



    We DO need to step our game up! Please discuss..
    I concur. I work on flirt4free and a lot of the few black girls that are there just look nasty. One had cartoons playing for here children in the background and I could see the t.v..... wtf??? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCummings View Post
    I concur. I work on flirt4free and a lot of the few black girls that are there just look nasty. One had cartoons playing for here children in the background and I could see the t.v..... wtf??? lol
    OMG! That's NOT right! I hardly have my daughter in the house when I'm camming because she's so little she just wanders from room to room and i'd hate for her to come in while i was working. That's f'd up that she had cartoons playing in the background indicating that her kids where in the same room.. omg.. how did she even use mic? Geez!

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    Lol you had me laughing with this one! I am a black female cam host, and I have noticed that SOME of the black women on our site is a HOT ass mess. Lol, I just try and keep that to myself, but so are some other races as well. We DO have some amazing and gorgeous black females on our site. Most of my clients are white men., and I don't know why that is, but I don't care. I chat with another female host who is black, and she and I have discussed this subject a couple of times. I think that you have to be a really diverse person to be on a cam site that has MILLIONS of viewers. From my observations the girls who are blastin rap music (i like rap but dont play it in my chatroom) not combing their hair, cleaning their rooms, low lighting dirty looking bed lol etc, just don't give a fuck, basically. I don't know about any of you, but when I prepare myself for cam, it's a process I go thru. First the shower, lotion, pick the right out fit, pick out more outfits to have in case I need to change real quick, I do my makeup, and take my time doing it, then my hair and I get dressed, and If I'm in a bad mood, I will neeed to listen to some music first or read a funny post or something, then think of my money, and THEN i get online. All bad thoughts are checked at the door, because a bad mood shows up on cam! I think these girls simply don't take it serious, and some are not as diverse as others. I don't think I would be on a site specifically for black models. I like variety, and so do the clients. I really don't like to be catagorized too much, even though I am. That's a good post, Malaya. Some girls really need to read it.

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    Oh, I would also like to point out that I have seen some very nasty looking women on cam of ALL races, but I do get the point of the post. Some of my clients have been relieved when finding me online for the 1st time, because they say it's so hard to get a chance to chat on cam with a black girl who got her "look" together

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    Quote Originally Posted by josiecamgirl View Post
    Oh, I would also like to point out that I have seen some very nasty looking women on cam of ALL races, but I do get the point of the post. Some of my clients have been relieved when finding me online for the 1st time, because they say it's so hard to get a chance to chat on cam with a black girl who got her "look" together
    Yes, It's very hard to find a black camgirl that LOOKS GOOD for one, have good working equipment and goes above and beyond to make her clients happy. It's sad. I see it all the time while studying girls on sites. Most of the studios in Africa don't even try to provide the girls with good working equipment. Some people think they can make money just sitting in front of a cam..

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    I also think that some girls think they are so hot that they don't need a decent cam, lighting, or sexy outfit lol. And it doesn't cost that much money for some clothing. Some of the african girls are gorgeous but seem to be kinda mean on cam lol. I have one client who spends ALOT he said it took him years to find someone like me who actually can put on a good show. He complained that the other girls just sit in front of the cam, pop out a boob, and think that's suppose to do it! Then I have been told that if they do find a black girl they like, there is a language barrier. I don't know....it just makes it easier for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josiecamgirl View Post
    I also think that some girls think they are so hot that they don't need a decent cam, lighting, or sexy outfit lol. And it doesn't cost that much money for some clothing. Some of the african girls are gorgeous but seem to be kinda mean on cam lol. I have one client who spends ALOT he said it took him years to find someone like me who actually can put on a good show. He complained that the other girls just sit in front of the cam, pop out a boob, and think that's suppose to do it! Then I have been told that if they do find a black girl they like, there is a language barrier. I don't know....it just makes it easier for me.
    Ditto @ It's just makes it easier for me!

    I wish girls would understand it takes money to make money in this business..

    Little things like changing their hairstyle, taking new pics, smiling and saying hello to EVERYONE in the room would make a impact on at least 2 people in their chatroom. I just want people to see that it IS possible to make good stable money webcamming.

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    I was just on cams.com and some girl (black) had her tampon string ALL IN THE CAM.. GROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS arrrrrghh!

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    I am lazy lol but i make awesome money! i use all my stripper outfits.. none of that tshirt/pajama pants just rolled out of bed crap lol. i dnt do my makeup because i hate that shit and if i put on all my stripper makeup every single day my face would break out..i spent about 150 on some porn type music and let that play in the background.. ive always had high quality webcams and now once i get back to chicago i have a new hp laptop along with a lifecam cinema hd webcam..so now people can perv on me in 720 or 1080p quality...i 4 got which one lol the only thing i lack on is photos..i update on the regular but setting up time to take new photos can be a pain for me..esp since im tired of taking photos in the same damn areas..
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    Well I mean, everyone runs their business differently. While I don't need to put on too much makeup, I still wear it before I get on cam (my daily powder, lipgloss and eyeliner) and I have PERFECT skin, says my derma . I try to give off a perfect image on cam. A lot of people feel like they don't need makeup but they really do. Just like some feel they don't need to dress up and they REALLY DO.

    I've learned that the more outfits you have the more money you make. I have a huge collection of wigs too.. (thanks to escorting lol) so I change my hairstyle alllll the time.

    I think playing rap music in the background is so tacky! WHO THA HELL GAVE THAT WONDERFUL ADVICE TO THESE GIRLS? Geez! I play classical music and pop only(Lots of britney spears lol)

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    I DO NOT recommend playing rap music while on cam! LOL I don't know why girls do that. No matter how much YOU like it, doesn't mean your clients will. I find all my clients to be 30 to 65. So basically they are grown ass men. They do not want to hear lil wayne when they are spankin the monkey! Seriously it's not cool. If I do decide to listen to music then I will play pop music or something neutral. As far as makeup is concerned, I don't need it in real life, but I learned I do need it on cam. I have really good skin, and I'm brown skin, but I look washed out on cam with my lighting. I look somewhat pale, and it just don't work for me to not have on makeup while on cam. In everyday life all i use is a little mac lipgloss, and sometimes mascara, unless me and my bf are going out at night. Then I will put more on. One thing I am trying to work on right now is getting more changes of clothes. While it don't cost too much, it does add up. This is the 1st year I was able to get a tax break for my outfits and toys. It really helps to keep track of that all year, and I even got a tax break for eating out! The entertainment tax. Overall, I just think some girls really need to put more work into their attitude and their look while on cam. Guys wanna see us be sexy and sweet! They don't care about our problems while we are on cam! They came to us to escape the drama, and the wife who dresses like she just got off work at the factory.

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    All I have to say is I made over $100 last night on an 'Ignore' call, standing at my stove making dinner with my back to the cam. I think I was wearing a cotton skirt and cammie tank top. Family Guy was on in the background.

    I won't tell any of you how to do your job as long as you don't tell me how to do mine.

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    I make dinner every night, where the fuck is MY $100? Some girls get all the luck.
    Get the fuck off my harbl, yo'.

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    just like stripping u can tell the difference between those that take what they do as a serious job vs those that take it as a hobby or something they can just jump right into and make a quick buck and be gone...then get a rude awakening when they figure the shit out that its actually time effort and work to make the real $
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    Making 100 bucks while making dinner is awesome! Not too shabby...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    All I have to say is I made over $100 last night on an 'Ignore' call, standing at my stove making dinner with my back to the cam. I think I was wearing a cotton skirt and cammie tank top. Family Guy was on in the background.

    I won't tell any of you how to do your job as long as you don't tell me how to do mine.

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    Why I started this thread: I am not telling anyone how to do their job. Having kids in the same room while you're doing adult work is ILLEGAL! It's not ONLY illegal it's fucking disgusting. Showing your tampon string on cam is nasty. Having a white substance under your nose while camming is NOT cool. Having a white substance in your possession is just NOT COOL period! LOL. This is what I've observed so far from the black girls on cam sites. I'm not telling anyone how to do their job. I think black women can do bettter and it IS true that we have to work twice as hard as caucasian camgirls to get up there. That's all I'm saying.


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    just like stripping u can tell the difference between those that take what they do as a serious job vs those that take it as a hobby or something they can just jump right into and make a quick buck and be gone...then get a rude awakening when they figure the shit out that its actually time effort and work to make the real $
    Exactly, Well said!

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    Malaya, I completely got your post from the moment I read it Like I said me and my friend have discussed this a few times. I don't really know how anyone can think you are telling them how to do their job. Even if you were, I would probably still listen to what you have to say in order to get more pointers. I been doing this over a year, but still want and need to learn more. Now I'm dying to find out what the ignore line is on niteflirt! I made an account there right when they were changing and having problems. So I never actually got it started, but have been reading on the pso forums that they are getting things together slowly but surely. So gonna check it out. I wish all people good luck and fortune on this cam thing. 2 years ago I would have never thought someone could make money doing this

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    Malaya, I completely got your post from the moment I read it Like I said me and my friend have discussed this a few times. I don't really know how anyone can think you are telling them how to do their job. Even if you were, I would probably still listen to what you have to say in order to get more pointers. I been doing this over a year, but still want and need to learn more. Now I'm dying to find out what the ignore line is on niteflirt! I made an account there right when they were changing and having problems. So I never actually got it started, but have been reading on the pso forums that they are getting things together slowly but surely. So gonna check it out. I wish all people good luck and fortune on this cam thing. 2 years ago I would have never thought someone could make money doing this
    I don't get the whole ignore line thing either but guys basically just call to get ignored lol.. You basically let them listen to you laugh at them while partying with your girlfriends, let them listen to you while you brush your teeth or whatever else .. shit like that.. I think it's hilarious! Lots of ladies (mainly dommes) make BANK off of it.

    . net, . com and www. bitchybeauty.com comes to mind.. Check them out.

    I just want everyone to make MONEY! I learned a lot from minnie before I got into camming full time so it did not come naturally and hell being smart helps too!!

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    Maybe I'm taking it too seriously and this is just a more general rant-type thread. I don't mean to be contrary but this entire thread just sounds like a vindictive attack against black (or any) women camming with very limited resources. When I say that, I not only mean resources such as privacy (which is more of a privilege than it may seem), but also wardrobe selection and even education. That's kind of messed up to be so harshly critical when you have no idea who these women are or what their circumstances may be.

    I guess it's like me ranting about all the awful spelling errors I see in listings and on chat sites coming from models. Sure their presentation sucks but it's not Harvard, it's cams.com or Nite Flirt or whatever. If I cared so much, I'd message each one and offer my services as an editor. But I don't. I have a job to do and furthering the business prospects of every under-educated, mis-managed cam-girl isnt that. I have nothing to gain by bitching about it on a forum none of them probably read.

    I'm wondering, what's the point? Do you have an actual plan or suggestion to implement to somehow better the conditions of black/brown cam-girls one at a time (something I actually do care about, btw)? Or are you just telling women to do better? That is in effect, telling others how to do their jobs. I'm just really not into micro-managing others without somehow offering a viable solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josiecamgirl View Post
    Malaya, I completely got your post from the moment I read it Like I said me and my friend have discussed this a few times. I don't really know how anyone can think you are telling them how to do their job. Even if you were, I would probably still listen to what you have to say in order to get more pointers. I been doing this over a year, but still want and need to learn more. Now I'm dying to find out what the ignore line is on niteflirt! I made an account there right when they were changing and having problems. So I never actually got it started, but have been reading on the pso forums that they are getting things together slowly but surely. So gonna check it out. I wish all people good luck and fortune on this cam thing. 2 years ago I would have never thought someone could make money doing this
    Don't count on ignore lines to make mega money or think it's just as easy as throwing up a listing and having the calls roll in. Honestly, ignore lines are so oversaturated that everyone and their grandma has one at this point. Guys do call them from time to time and women who have been doing them for years probably do really well on them .. but I just wouldn't count on having success with them at this stage in the game. 2001? Yes. 2010? No. My advice is to try to think of a different fetish to cater to that not so woman and men already do so you can maximize your potential for cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    Maybe I'm taking it too seriously and this is just a more general rant-type thread. I don't mean to be contrary but this entire thread just sounds like a vindictive attack against black (or any) women camming with very limited resources. When I say that, I not only mean resources such as privacy (which is more of a privilege than it may seem), but also wardrobe selection and even education. That's kind of messed up to be so harshly critical when you have no idea who these women are or what their circumstances may be.
    I'm a black woman. I didn't just get up and say.. "Hey I'm going to pick on black women today". THIS IS A KNOWN THING. You, yourself can go on streamate.com, imlive.com.. wherever and see for yourself EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

    You'll be suprised how many of those girls are actually a member of sw. I'm not bad mouthing anyone in particular, this is a KNOWN complaint about black women by men and women online. I think WE need to step OUR game up and work as hard as the caucasians! What's wrong with that? On camsites, live jasmine for example, I've never seen a black girl as a top earner and I've been monitoring that site for almost 2 years now. Now there's something wrong with that! I don't think anything is wrong with what I've said so far can actually help people BOTH black and white improve.

    Some of the black models are with studios in Africa that provide them with HORRIBLE equipment (This is probably the #1 issue). I don't see why you look at it as me ranting. I'm pretty much informing. Say you're pumping gas at the gas station and someone walks up to you and says "hey your hair looks like shit" then two other people walks up to you and says the exact same thing.. what are you gonna do? Change your hairstyle right? well that's what I would do ESPECIALLY if I knew it would be good for my business.

    I guess it's like me ranting about all the awful spelling errors I see in listings and on chat sites coming from models. Sure their presentation sucks but it's not Harvard, it's cams.com or Nite Flirt or whatever. If I cared so much, I'd message each one and offer my services as an editor. But I don't. I have a job to do and furthering the business prospects of every under-educated, mis-managed cam-girl isnt that. I have nothing to gain by bitching about it on a forum none of them probably read.
    I'm wondering, what's the point? Do you have an actual plan or suggestion to implement to somehow better the conditions of black/brown cam-girls one at a time (something I actually do care about, btw)? Or are you just telling women to do better? That is in effect, telling others how to do their jobs. I'm just really not into micro-managing others without somehow offering a viable solution.
    Everyone has their own way of running their own business. I've actually messaged a couple of the ladies on niteflirt to tell them that they needed to fix the html on thier page not neccessarily the spelling because I haven't seen such and they'd thank me for informing them that something was wrong with their listing. I am not saying I'm perfect.. I'm saying if there was an area where I could improve I would like to hear it. For example, My clients give me business advice all the time.. Sorry I just don't see anything wrong with that. So no I'm not going to keep mum about it when I know it could help ladies with their online game.

    I am bitching about it? Yeah you are taking it too seriously.. You can think what you want , if you don't understand why I even started this thread then that you. Let's not forget how many black camgirls on sw this thread is actually helping.. Ooh and how many girls I've HELPED start their own independent webcam business one on one, enough said. So please don't tell me I'm doing nothing to help.
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    I am glad you guys cleared up the ignore line on niteflirt for me. Had no clue what you were talking about.

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    But I think my last response was off subject lol. Everyone have a good night and God bless america!

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    I completely agree with this post! I'm a black female as well and before I signed on to a cam site, I checked out the girls and I must say SOME (most) BLACK WOMEN ARE STRAIGHT UP EMBARRESMENT!! (however you spell that)

    Even as a dancer, the black women I work with in this upscale club are loud, speaking ebonics, acting wild etc, etc....it's soo not cool. Even when I'm on the stage, I stay away from hip hop music because I dont want anybody judging me. No, I dont care what people think in my personal life, but at work, I do because it's all about the money. I stick with Prince on the stage.

    Now don't get me wrong, there are white people who are just as trashy as well as other races. But we black people have a bad rep so we need to present ourselves properly. besides, this is a BUSINESS please, please, please calm down. Do that ghetto shit at home.

    Also, I dont get tipped alot on the stage- thanks to you stank hoodrats, but when I'm speaking and working the room, they realize that I speak PROPER ENGLISH, that I'm not loud, not ghetto etc etc.

    NO, this isnt a post to bash black women, my own kind- this is a post to point out this issue which happens to be true. And everytime someone brings up the words "black person" people automatically assume a negative nature.

    Thank you so much for pointing this out.

    AND I FUCKING LOVE CLUB- TIERRA.COM

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    Not sure if I should be posting in this thread, as I lack certain criteria (lol). But I would just like to say that all the black ladies in this forum are very classy ladies and you all know what you're doing.

    It could possibly be profitable to have a specialized camsite for classy black women...maybe take it a step further and make it a suicidegirls type of thing (the photosets and client interaction part anyway.) There are plenty of men out there who love black women, and it could also possibly negate stereotypes about black camgirls.

    I just don't get racial stereotypes, I really don't. I give everyone from all walks of life the benefit of the doubt. Basically if you're at least borderline intelligent, you're alright with me! Ethnicity, sexuality, economic circumstance, personal beliefs, etc...don't matter to me, just be cool and we're good.

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