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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    So it's your little mission to find the hidden gems and lift them out of the gutter of stripping? This is why you are addicted to going to stripclubs?
    Nope, I'm not bem, some hidden agenda guy who says one thing and does another...almost always, I go because I get to hang out with and rub on hot young naked women who wouldn't give me the time of day otherwise. Very...stimulating.

    But twice, in years of going and hundreds of girls...twice, I've found someone elevated, and taken it to that higher plane. Both times it seems to have worked out.

    Truly a needle in a haystack, I agree...but sometimes needles do exist in the haystack, and we shouldn't assume that everyone we meet is a piece of hay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Well, your last stmt is correct, and I am.

    But, sometimes you can't see the trees for the forest....90% of all strippers does not = all strippers. I specialize in the trees.
    Dude, I'm not talking about strippers. I'm talking about you. I don't generalize about strippers and my posting history on this site backs that up. What I do is read your words and comment on them.
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    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    You are paying them money to take their cloths off and grind on your lap (the strippers, not the non-strippers).
    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I'm talking about you. I don't generalize about strippers.
    I was gonna put these next to each other and show how the 1st contradicts the 2nd...but as I read them, you might be right, the 1st might be a comment on me, not strippers. Point: Yoda.

    But my overall point, that while the vast majority of strippers I've met are just hot young bodies I pay to grind on me, I'm always aware of the possibility that someone is more than that (not generally, which of course everyone is more than their job -- I mean specifically to me, and even more importantly specifically to themselves). Being alert to that fact and tuned in to possible higher conversations and goals, I don't think makes me a White Knight. It's not like I go around WKing with just anyone...twice in hundreds of girls.

    Besides, I pretty much believe this (plus I really like this song):

    I cannot save you....
    I can't even save myself.....
    You cannot save me...
    You can't even save yourself....

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    I "might" be right? Again, they are my words so I am right. You just had to read it more than once to see my meaning. That has more to do with your view of dancers than it does with mine.

    EM, I'm not with you in the clubs (thank God!). All I can do is read your posts and comment on them. I've made a strip club career out of finding what I consider to be special ladies. I'm not, however, looking to save them-either from other customers or from themselves. I enjoy their company and spend money on them. It may have something to do with the fact that I am attracted to strong, independent women to begin with and that includes dancers.

    You may be attracted to insecure, fragile basket cases...or they are just very astute dancers who sense your need to save them and allow you and your wallet the chance to do so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I "might" be right? Again, they are my words so I am right. You just had to read it more than once to see my meaning. That has more to do with your view of dancers than it does with mine.

    EM, I'm not with you in the clubs (thank God!). All I can do is read your posts and comment on them. I've made a strip club career out of finding what I consider to be special ladies. I'm not, however, looking to save them-either from other customers or from themselves. I enjoy their company and spend money on them. It may have something to do with the fact that I am attracted to strong, independent women to begin with and that includes dancers.

    You may be attracted to insecure, fragile basket cases...or they are just very astute dancers who sense your need to save them and allow you and your wallet the chance to do so...
    Attracted...the only important attraction to me in a SC is physical, at least for the first few mtg. I like them young (18-25), skinny or athletic (but in no way muscly or manly) and not too alternative, more "All-American girl".

    Someone who fits in these criteria, I'll talk to/dance with. Someone who is interesting OR is exceptionally hot/gives a great dance, I'll see again. Someone who keeps being interesting, I will keep talking to. Someone very hot but not too bright or interesting, I'll just come back to get dances only (essentially, an ITC "fuck buddy" -- not real fucking of course).

    Rarely (like I said, twice), someone I find both hot & interesting seems to take an interest in me. And thus begins the "more than a stripper" process I have described in this thread.

    Are they sadder/more pathetic than other girls? I don't really think so -- I just think I get to see all the way inside them to where fears reside, which to me is very very attractive, much more attractive than a "strong woman" who puts up a front.

    And oh my wallet? It's not involved. Number of for-pay OTC visits in my life: 0.

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    God help the assholes like this that wanted to "save" me. I never damn well needed rescuing....I made more than most of those arrogant dickheads, had my shit together and actually did WAY less drugs (try none) and drank less than most of the "well adjusted" middle aged businessmen I danced for.

    Either a dancers gonna be a crackhead ho, with zilch for potential and a high level of drama lamaing, or she's gonna be a well-adjusted girl, who just happens to not mind being naked if the price is right (for some reason you don't tend to see the in betweens in dancers very often ). You aren't "finding" or "elevating" anydamn one. Get over yourself.

    Damnit, I need someone to slap, I srsly can't handle another arrogant fucktard, atm.
    "I hear you calling and it's needles and pins. I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name...You're poision. but I don't wanna break these chains.... I wanna love you but I'd better not touch."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    And oh my wallet? It's not involved. Number of for-pay OTC visits in my life: 0.
    Huh? Are we both posting on the same thread? You buy dances in the club right? The money comes out of your wallet right? I never mentioned OTC anywhere in my posts on this thread E-man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by princessjas View Post
    God help the assholes like this that wanted to "save" me. I never damn well needed rescuing....I made more than most of those arrogant dickheads, had my shit together and actually did WAY less drugs (try none) and drank less than most of the "well adjusted" middle aged businessmen I danced for.

    Either a dancers gonna be a crackhead ho, with zilch for potential and a high level of drama lamaing, or she's gonna be a well-adjusted girl, who just happens to not mind being naked if the price is right (for some reason you don't tend to see the in betweens in dancers very often ). You aren't "finding" or "elevating" anydamn one. Get over yourself.

    Damnit, I need someone to slap, I srsly can't handle another arrogant fucktard, atm.
    Yes, I've already said 90+% of dancers have this attitude. Hay in a haystack (which is even more common than a dime a dozen!!). Anyone with this attitude is not who I'm talking about. Don't worry, I won't try to "save" you if I ever meet you.

    And ROFLMAO if you think I can't detect this attitude within a couple minutes of talking to you.

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    P.S. princess: can't we move past the tired "white knight PL fucktard custy" and "money-grubbing lying stripper whore" dichotomy?

    Both are so overdone, lazy and knee-jerk, and I learned long ago neither are really true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Yes, I've already said 90+% of dancers have this attitude. Hay in a haystack (which is even more common than a dime a dozen!!). Anyone with this attitude is not who I'm talking about. Don't worry, I won't try to "save" you if I ever meet you.

    And ROFLMAO if you think I can't detect this attitude within a couple minutes of talking to you.
    No, you didn't say we had the attitude that we don't need saving, you said we were incapable of higher conversation and had no higher goals. What I'm saying is, you aren't going to be able to help me (because I'm probably smarter and already more successful than 80% of the men I danced for). I already have those goals and have achieved more than most of my custies had when I danced. Worked as a research biologist and then an acct, helped my soon to be ex get a very successful company off the ground. Now, I should have my RN license in about a year, and hopefully either my NP shortly afterward. I'm not an idiot like you are suggesting, I just don't need anydamn body else to "save" me. After all I'm not broken and certainly not begging for cash or doing anything illegal or shameful. I especially don't need some hippocrite that thinks that the buyer of naked entertainment is somehow "above" the naked girl he's handing his wallet over to trying to save me from MY poor choices. I personally have no issues controlling myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    P.S. princess: can't we move past the tired "white knight PL fucktard custy" and "money-grubbing lying stripper whore" dichotomy?

    Both are so overdone, lazy and knee-jerk, and I learned long ago neither are really true.
    I don't think there are many out there like you at all. Nope it's you guys on here that accuse any halfway decent guy of having "white-night" syndrom. I've personally only encountered it in a few real assholes! Look up my posts, I generally like the men on the board. I think I've had issue with maybe three or four of you since 2002.

    Oh, and I never said a DAMN thing about a money-grubbing lying stripper whore...but thanks for calling us that. It's always amusing when some dickless wonder can insert THAT into conversation. I said that there are some druggie-whores in the business, and anyone who denies that is blind or delusional....or maybe so f-ed up on drugs that they don't consider a 2-3 time a week user a druggie (encountered that several times on this very board a few years back...needless to say I disagree. )
    "I hear you calling and it's needles and pins. I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name...You're poision. but I don't wanna break these chains.... I wanna love you but I'd better not touch."

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I "might" be right? Again, they are my words so I am right. You just had to read it more than once to see my meaning. That has more to do with your view of dancers than it does with mine.

    EM, I'm not with you in the clubs (thank God!). All I can do is read your posts and comment on them. I've made a strip club career out of finding what I consider to be special ladies. I'm not, however, looking to save them-either from other customers or from themselves. I enjoy their company and spend money on them. It may have something to do with the fact that I am attracted to strong, independent women to begin with and that includes dancers.

    You may be attracted to insecure, fragile basket cases...or they are just very astute dancers who sense your need to save them and allow you and your wallet the chance to do so...
    I would vote for the 2nd....although, I'll admit to running into a few guys who were attracted to those crazy-assed, needy women....not in the club either. It never worked out and wasn't pretty. I got accused of being mean a few times and any of the stronger guys I know would assure you I'm a sweetie normally. Just have zero tolerance for idiots, self-destructive peeps or manipulative bitches (outside the club of course, there is always a bit of fantasy that a select few consider manipulation that goes on itc...hell, it's what you guys PAY for ).
    "I hear you calling and it's needles and pins. I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name...You're poision. but I don't wanna break these chains.... I wanna love you but I'd better not touch."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Attracted...the only important attraction to me in a SC is physical, at least for the first few mtg. I like them young (18-25), skinny or athletic (but in no way muscly or manly) and not too alternative, more "All-American girl".

    Someone who fits in these criteria, I'll talk to/dance with. Someone who is interesting OR is exceptionally hot/gives a great dance, I'll see again. Someone who keeps being interesting, I will keep talking to. Someone very hot but not too bright or interesting, I'll just come back to get dances only (essentially, an ITC "fuck buddy" -- not real fucking of course).

    Rarely (like I said, twice), someone I find both hot & interesting seems to take an interest in me. And thus begins the "more than a stripper" process I have described in this thread.

    Are they sadder/more pathetic than other girls? I don't really think so -- I just think I get to see all the way inside them to where fears reside, which to me is very very attractive, much more attractive than a "strong woman" who puts up a front.

    And oh my wallet? It's not involved. Number of for-pay OTC visits in my life: 0.
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    You may be attracted to insecure, fragile basket cases...or they are just very astute dancers who sense your need to save them and allow you and your wallet the chance to do so...
    ^^^Bingo! ...on both counts.

    OP: What hot, interesting, buff, 18-25 year old stripper is going to be "interested" in anything more than your money? You're dreaming. They're sharp enough to figure out that the more they talk about stuff they're afraid of, the more interest you show in them.

    Tell the truth...you started to get real cheap with the last girl, right?

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    The men on this board are bitchier than the women. I JUST now realised that.

    My mind = blown.
    Get the fuck off my harbl, yo'.

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    ^hahahaha...seriously!!
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    Busted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post
    The men on this board are bitchier than the women. I JUST now realised that.

    My mind = blown.
    LOL, it took you this long to figure it out?
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    CAT FIGHT MERREOOWWWWW ::hiss:: !!! or maybe cock-fighting would be more appropriate...pun intended.
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    ^In fairness, once I learned who the dudes were, I have ignored you all by and large.
    Get the fuck off my harbl, yo'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubyredlipsss View Post
    CAT FIGHT MERREOOWWWWW ::hiss:: !!! or maybe cock-fighting would be more appropriate...pun intended.
    Crossing swords? Eeeeewww!
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    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
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    Double team! 2 latinas with big tits!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Crossing swords? Eeeeewww!
    I saw Ron Jeremy do that about 20 yrs ago in a movie. Literally, in a ring, crossing swords with another guy in a "cockfight". I remember thinking, "wtf, is this supposed to be entertaining?" Fast forward the VCR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    OP: What hot, interesting, buff, 18-25 year old stripper is going to be "interested" in anything more than your money? You're dreaming. They're sharp enough to figure out that the more they talk about stuff they're afraid of, the more interest you show in them.
    Almost none...only 2 out of hundreds. But, I've only said that about 10 times.

    The thread seems to have derailed into me running around playing white knight...just doesn't happen. If you'll look back at my initial point, it's just that a girl who I had a talk with that she shouldn't be in the biz, in fact left a couple of weeks later. It's really not the big deal it's been blown up into.

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeybobby View Post
    Tell the truth...you started to get real cheap with the last girl, right?
    Huh? My money stayed the same, I'm pretty constant. Except I stopped going (also the main point of this thread). But I would call that "absent" not "cheap". Anyway, it has nothing to do with my talk with her, or her move to waitressing. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but it seems irrelevant.

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    Crossing swords? Eeeeewww!
    okay i guess my joke didn't work out so well (cause ya know cat fighting usually is intended for girls fighting), but i meant like roosters or whatever, where it's called cock-fighting and they put the roosters to fight till the death...but because i was referencing men, i just thought it was funny. stupid joke. sorry. i didn't mean conjure up those sort of images.

    eta: okay maybe you did get it but it just wasn't funny. my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Huh? My money stayed the same, I'm pretty constant. Except I stopped going (also the main point of this thread). But I would call that "absent" not "cheap". Anyway, it has nothing to do with my talk with her, or her move to waitressing. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but it seems irrelevant.
    The point is the same point I made before. No pay, no play. Based on your post a few days ago, I think your month-long absence from the club was to save money. It wasn't to save time. I'm sure you'd happily spend time with a hot young thing if it was free. And, I think it does have something to do with your talk with her, and her leaving dancing...but you're obviously not going to fill in the blanks here.

    Anyway...you already know the cure for your "withdrawal". Go back to the club and spend some money when the babe deprivation symptoms are too severe.

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    Every, I am in your corner. Do what you need to do to get back to the club - get a second (or third) mortgage, take out a title loan on your car, borrow from friends and family, or whatever else it takes. The saving of two lives is a life well spent.

    And ultimately, the life you save may be your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubyredlipsss View Post
    okay i guess my joke didn't work out so well (cause ya know cat fighting usually is intended for girls fighting), but i meant like roosters or whatever, where it's called cock-fighting and they put the roosters to fight till the death...but because i was referencing men, i just thought it was funny. stupid joke. sorry. i didn't mean conjure up those sort of images.

    eta: okay maybe you did get it but it just wasn't funny. my bad.
    No worries ruby. I got it. I just took it to a more disturbing place...
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