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    About 4 years ago I met a dancer in a club in Queens named Daniela. To this day she is, and will likely always be, one of the most fascinating dancers that I will ever meet.

    She was pretty, but not “hot” in the classic sense. She was from Greece and had some traditional Greek traits, including a slightly protruding nose and a small top with a slightly curvy bottom. What she did have, however, was a special gift reading people and very subtly drawing them in. In no time you felt like part of her inner circle. She was bold and forth-rite without being loud, and she had a way of doing everything in a direct, no-nonsense, earthy way. She was tough, yet classy, in a way that reminded me of a woman from a different era, despite the fact that she was well under 30. She was also very smart and could speak on a number of topics, all the while doing so with an earthy appeal. In a nutshell, she was as a mesmerizing young woman in a sea of strippers. She was truly a master of her craft.

    As a master of her craft, she also had every angle plotted. She earned good money on nights when other girls could barely cover their tip-outs. It was not the lap dances that did it, though she certainly did those, but also what other guys gave her for her time. It is important to note that she never asked for the money for her time – she didn’t have to. She also was the first to work out a deal with the club to receive a cut of her drink sales, a practice that was not offered to any other dancer (she had quite a following). All the while keeping these things tightly to herself, not making any friends with the girls and letting none of them know how she was doing.

    She was also a big game hunter, and would often work her charm on “top 2%ers.” Not only did they come into the club to see her, but she often went to dinner with a number of them, maintaining a select group of “friends” among the club’s more well-to-do patrons. These were not sexual friends, though many wanted to be that and more. Some men even flew back and forth from out-of-state just to see her and one man even gave her an expensive car. When she left for Greece she went back with a bank account full of cash, a lot of nice stuff and, of course, a new car.

    The girls that post in places like the “Hustle Hut” are babies compared to this girl. She had learned the subtle old school, old world art of seduction. Comparing her to the average stripper is like comparing the Waldorf Astoria Hotel to a Motel 6 - they may be in the same general industry but they are in two different stratospheres.

    I am as hard-edged as they come (anyone who reads my posts knows my gig) and even I felt drawn to her. I always kept my wits about me and never reached too deep into my wallet, but I can understand how it happened. I had never met a woman with her talent for this game, and probably never will again.

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    I liked the way you described her all the way up until the point of saying she went to dinner with customers from the club. If she was doing that then she wasn't just a club entertainer, so you can't really compare the money she makes to the money an entertainer makes who earns her money only from entertaining within the club.
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    pssh, as if you know all the dancers and how they work and how much money they make in clubs on this forum. you're just another pl who fell for her ss...i can't even get started on all the things you said that doesn't make her so special. i'm sorry but all your posts are ridiculous. you truly are a piece of work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2

    I liked the way you described her all the way up until the point of saying she went to dinner with customers from the club. If she was doing that then she wasn't just a club entertainer, so you can't really compare the money she makes to the money an entertainer makes who earns her money only from entertaining within the club.
    This is interesting and begs the question is it OK to use all the electronic social tools dancers have to drum up business including chat, sending pics back and forth etc but it is not OK to meet a customer casually for a drink or a meal OTC, not engaging in any sort of sexual activity beyond flirtation and fun. I know that many dancers draw a line in the sand. Kylea makes the point that once you step outside the club perimeter it is no longer a dancing enterprise but something else. I'm sure she is wiser than me on this subject but I tend to disagree. There is OTC of course but I do believe there is room for the stripper to market herself outside while still staying within the boundaries that would have been observed in the club anyway. And probably more fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I liked the way you described her all the way up until the point of saying she went to dinner with customers from the club. If she was doing that then she wasn't just a club entertainer, so you can't really compare the money she makes to the money an entertainer makes who earns her money only from entertaining within the club.

    Kylea, that in essence is the point. Her goal was to develop a group of followers that ultimately paid her. She collected her money primarlily in the club, but didn't hold to silly definitions like "club entertainer" vs something else. She was the same person everywhere. She didn't have kids, a boyfriend, etc., but had only one purpose in life, which was to pad her nest. She did not have two separate personalities (club vs. other) but rahter one that defined her life, which made the boundaries between the club and outside moot.

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    ^^^ She was ESCORTING though (even if by the traditional no-sex definition), which is a fully different ball game.

    She could have easily created a following inside the club, it's not hard. Or by doing modeling work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    This is interesting and begs the question is it OK to use all the electronic social tools dancers have to drum up business including chat, sending pics back and forth etc but it is not OK to meet a customer casually for a drink or a meal OTC, not engaging in any sort of sexual activity beyond flirtation and fun. I know that many dancers draw a line in the sand. Kylea makes the point that once you step outside the club perimeter it is no longer a dancing enterprise but something else. I'm sure she is wiser than me on this subject but I tend to disagree. There is OTC of course but I do believe there is room for the stripper to market herself outside while still staying within the boundaries that would have been observed in the club anyway. And probably more fun.

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    FBR, I will say see above. The girl was the same person in and out of the club. She had one goal - to support her business in Greece. Everything else was just smke in the breeze

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    ^^^ She was ESCORTING though (even if by the traditional no-sex definition), which is a fully different ball game.

    She could have easily created a following inside the club, it's not hard. Or by doing modeling work.
    Kylea, big game works differently. A "2%er" that you work in the club doesn't buy you a new Mercedes. Like I said, the woman didn't care about labels.

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    ^^^ Well, if that's what you are looking for, an escort, there are TONS of them - even in the clubs. Especially in Florida...

    Personally, I wouldn't do it. If you don't have an escort license that would land a girl in jail fast where I'm from.

    Besides, I prefer to have the cash and make my own purchases.
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    Well, she landeed about 250k in cash and merchanandise in a short period - all without giving it up (maybe one to the mercedes guy). She was a special woman.

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    Sorry, I just don't think you are going to find a lot of formal club dancers who are going to be "wowed" by that.
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    Fair enough - those "formaql club dancers" can keep trying to eke out a living by giving lap dances to blue collar joes that think that $200 is a big number

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    ^^^ You are barking up the wrong tree.
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    Someone who hasn't read enough around here to know much about any of us.
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    i love how he thinks he's some sort of all knowing omnipotent strip club god
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    Who the fuck is this guy?
    I prefer a more humble approach in terms of establishing credibility. But this is Blue. We have a fairly large tent...unless someone pisses me off, of course. Carry on LOL

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    ^sorry FBR, he just said some very insulting things on the pink side so our disgust for him is bringing us over to the blue side. i'm out of this thread, i'll just stick to bluep cause i like that thread
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    ^^^ I just looked at his past posts and noticed that. I had actually missed that discussion when he joined in. So everything I said on this thread was unrelated to what occurred on that thread.
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    ^i guess i should've just spoken for myself...but yeaaahh, gives you an idea what kind of guy he is.
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    Who the fuck is this guy?

    LMAO! He probably fabricated the entire story up!

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    I agree that you can't compare this girl to dancers who work inside the club only. She should be paid more than me if she's seeing customers outside of the club. Sex or no sex, OTC involves more risk and hassle than ITC.

    I could easily build up a following of men who pay my bills and buy me cars by seeing them OTC, but I don't. It just isn't worth the money to me.

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    You used too broad a brush, as there no doubt are girls on hustle hut as good.

    Also, with foreign dancers, many are all business, don't bother with B/Fs or other distractions, work many days each week etc, and they also have elaborate strategies. often combined with varioius types of beauty and charm. Many make huge dollars.

    OK the girl is good but she is hardly unique

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    I prefer a more humble approach in terms of establishing credibility. But this is Blue. We have a fairly large tent...unless someone pisses me off, of course. Carry on LOL

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    I will say she was the best that I had ever seen, and I have seen a lot over the years, though of course I have not seen everything and I am sure that there are others out there who are also masters at this - I just haven't met them.

    My main point was that, even though she was not classicly hot and she was not giving out the goods, she managed to coral a stable of well-to-do supporters and made a lot off of it.

    An important component of the story was that that her stable of supporters consisted guys who don't normally get corraled into fantasies, don't need their egos boosted by a dancer and don't often chase after a girl just to get laid. These guys were succesful and had very healthy egos - hell, some of these guys were hard nosed Wall Streeters. Believe me when I say that guys making $500k + a year have no problems finding willing, attractive women on the outside and don't often spend a lot of time chasing tail.

    Again, I am sure there are others out there with the skill of oozing authenticity and earthiness necessary, IMO, to accomplish what she did in such a short time, but I have yet to meet her and question whether I ever will.

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    Just about all the strippers I've ever known have occasionally gone out to dinner with their high-paying regulars. Its not unlike any sales job, sometimes the sales person has to take the client out for cocktails, dinner, golfing, etc.

    I don't think its that big a deal that she had some OTC dinners with well-paying clients. Far as I know, over 10 years, that's pretty standard in the industry for those strippers who are big on cultivating regulars.

    Also, FTR, it was never my style to do OTC dinners with customers/regulars. I don't approve or dissaprove of it...but I just don't understand why everyone gets so worked up about it. She isn't fucking these guys in the club or outside, she is just had a very aggressive strategy.....doesn't mean every stripper will have to do that to make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia View Post
    Just about all the strippers I've ever known have occasionally gone out to dinner with their high-paying regulars. Its not unlike any sales job, sometimes the sales person has to take the client out for cocktails, dinner, golfing, etc.

    I don't think its that big a deal that she had some OTC dinners with well-paying clients. Far as I know, over 10 years, that's pretty standard in the industry for those strippers who are big on cultivating regulars.

    Also, FTR, it was never my style to do OTC dinners with customers/regulars. I don't approve or dissaprove of it...but I just don't understand why everyone gets so worked up about it. She isn't fucking these guys in the club or outside, she is just had a very aggressive strategy.....doesn't mean every stripper will have to do that to make money.
    Agreed...TBH I didn't see anything overtly unique, special, "unusual" or "incredible" about what she did. From what I read, she found what these guys liked/wanted, catered to their egos (which must've been huge if they're these "top 2%ers"), and milked them for what she could/needed. She happened to net a lot more for her efforts than some. The rest was just a bunch of flowery prose.

    And while it's not any of my business, I also don't understand why the OP had to make the point that he didn't seem to fall for her game, as if it made him superior to these "top 2%ers".
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