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    Ok ladies, I have a scenario which is pissing me off and I need help. I have a new customer who has been in twice this week to see me and is coming back tonight. He is a very nice man, very wealthy ( multiple cars, homes, island, boats, etc) and we get along great. The problem is that he isn't being soo generous at the club and I don't know how to handle the situation. I feel like I'm in "regular" person mode and not " hustling dancer" mode with him. He reeeally wants me to go to dinner with him, and implies he will be more generous if I do. And I know he is only looking for dinner company, nothing more. But he gave me $50 less in the CR because the wallet was in the car, and last night he had only $150 CAN ( I'm in Canada) and said he would come back tonight too see me again...he owed me $280. I don't get it...he talks on and on about all the stuff he owns, but he seems to think I'm gonna rip him off or maybe just doesn't really want to pay for my company ( " Was that the first song? But it started 10 secs ago..does this count?" Of Fucking Christ!!!! You are a millionaire!!!!
    I want to handle this with "kid gloves" because I think he could be a really good custy, but am I just hoping that it will pan out instead of looking at the facts ie he has paid me less than what I am truely owed? And what do I do about being asked out to dinner? I told him I would think about it, but he is very insistant and won't let up...but the facts are he hasn't knocked my socks off with big spending at the club. I imagine he would get pissy if I told him I wanted to get paid to be a dinner date, since I think he wants it to be a real date.
    Do I just tell him what my expectations are and if I lose him , so be it? It may be easier than dealing with this frustration. I just thought I finally found a cool rich custy to play the game with like all the other girls at my club. They are so bossy, pushy and obnoxious yet guys seems to just throw money at them!
    *sigh* Any advice would be awesome ladies...
    LT

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    Default Re: Need Custy advice

    Get rid of his ass he's probably a liar.

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    Default Re: Need Custy advice

    Sounds like he's completely full of shit.

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    If he were really a millionaire, he wouldn't be counting songs. He's ask you how much he owed you for your time, then hand over the hundreds with no hesitation.

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    I agree with the above, he sounds like he's full of shit. If he has millions, and wants to share them, he will do it... He probably just wants to get you out of the club and try to pressure you into giving him a good time. Remember, at the strip club, its supply, NOT demand, that determines the economy. You can charge whatever you want for your time, so don't let him make you believe for one second that he should pay you what he deems necessary for whatever he wants! I had a custie like this in Houston, and I ended up blowing him off, which ironically made him want me more. He could have just moved on to the next girl who would let him get away with his shit, but he ended up letting me string him along... but even if i had never seen or heard from him again, I feel like my dignity (more importantly, SAFETY) is worth more than the potential few grand I MIGHT have made.

    Hope that wasn't to disjointed and was easy to read. Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Technician View Post
    he talks on and on about all the stuff he owns
    To appear like he is going to spend it on you.

    Sorry to inform you that you are blinded by the money he talks about.

    The most important advice that I have ever received when it comes to men:

    Listen to what they say - but watch what they do. (Actions speak louder than words.)

    He's all talk. He may have money but unless he spends it on you without being stingy and tightfisted what is the point. He is more trouble than he is worth.

    If I were you I would tell him that he needs to pay you what he owes you first and then you can continue on with the dancer/custy relationship.

    If he hems and haws at it or tries to ask for a discount plainly tell him "Why don't you just pay me what we agreed to".

    After you get your money start telling him to pay up front. He'll get the hint and perhaps move onto another dancer to HUSTLE but that is no loss.

    If he does move on ask the new girl if he is giving her the run around. If he is complain to the manager as they may ask him to not return.

    Sorry to inform you that you are blinded by the money he talks about.

    He is not a good customer and I doubt he will be to most girls. There will be that one girl who will not take his shit but once you let on that it's okay for him to not pay you it will be hard for him to go back.




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    I completely agree that actions speak louder than words, and that unless he is spending the cash on me then what is the point! I know he is not full of shit...I have seen his car and watches and I can tell that he is not lying....he had $10,000 US from doing a business deal earlier that day. I have known a few wealthy people in the past and many of them stay wealthy because they don't waste cash on certain things; think Warren Buffet for instance...wealthiest man alive and lives in a 2 bedroom house from the 50's. Rich cheapskates stay rich! Lol...anyways, I guess I just need to look at the facts: 1.Even if he has money, he isn't going to spend it on me at the club. 2. He is looking for romance, not a friendly business relationship with me. 3. He will only spend $ on me if we are "dating" each other.
    I was hoping I could turn this into a really good client, but I need to look at the straight goods instead of hopes or empty promises.
    Just like in regular life, we need to look at the facts with our men instead of what we are hoping will happen.
    Shit. Lol... thought I finally had a good one!
    As a side note, do you girls find you earn more when you are bossy or pushy with clients, or when you take a more gentle approach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Technician View Post
    As a side note, do you girls find you earn more when you are bossy or pushy with clients, or when you take a more gentle approach?LT
    This is kind of tough to answer...it depends on the guy. I usually make more when I'm in super stripper bitch mode though. I have a young innocent looking face, so I usually bring the attitude to make guys know that I'm not a pushover, they have to get dances with me, and I won't put up with any shit.

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    It doesn't matter how wealthy he is. You gave him too much control. Don't spend any time with him until he gives you what he owes you. It doesn't matter how rich he is, it matters how much he spends. Plenty of wealthy people are cheap and will try to hustle and take advantage of people. You do not want a customer like this. He is not worth all the trouble. If you want to try to get him to stay a customer, you need to get tough and not let him owe you money. You are there to hustle, not get hustled. I would rather be sitting with a guy who makes 30k a year spending money on dances, than a millionaire who is a cheap tightwad that you need to practically beg and promise them the sun, moon, stars in order to get them to get a dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Technician View Post
    I was hoping I could turn this into a really good client, but I need to look at the straight goods instead of hopes or empty promises.
    Exactly! Regardless if he is wealthy or not (which I don't think he is), if he was REALLY going to spend $$ on you he already would have. I've never met a custy that is SUPPOSEDLY wealthy that would HAVE to OWE me $$ ... that's a serious sign of a bullshitter.


    Quote Originally Posted by Love Technician View Post
    As a side note, do you girls find you earn more when you are bossy or pushy with clients, or when you take a more gentle approach?
    For me big $$ I've been gentle w/ custys ... maybe I've been lucky and these custys were just easy going so no hustle required ... I just let them know their options. It's the cheap asses I HAVE to HARD ASS HUSTLE.

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    I agree with Mediocrity. Guys lie all the time in the club. He probably doesn't have nearly as much money as what he says or else he's a cheapskate... either way you don't really need him. If you want to know which it is though ask him for a business card and look him up online.
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    If he's already pinching pennies at this point, then things aren't going to improve.

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    More custies where that came from

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    Thanks ladies! I haven't heard from him since, so this is a lesson learned for me! Regardless of what a custy says about how much money he has, or what they say they will buy you, or whatever...always look at the facts, and if they aren't spending it on you at the club then forget it! Actions, not empty promises!
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    Yes, a good lesson to learn. I cannot think of a single 'braggart' who spent tons of money on me and was able to continue to do so over the long haul. It usually ends up following the laws of diminishing returns. They have to back-pedal over time and yet they will still try to 'save face' by holding up the farce with stories.

    The guys who over promise set themselves up to under deliver. My highest paying regulars/ casual customers have shown their wealth by simply spending in large sums without flinching and without trying to 'maneuver' anything out of the situation. They either enjoy your company or they don't.

    Think of it in terms of 'discretion is the better part of valor' but replace 'valor' with 'value'! And wealthy men, and, well, most people in general, appreciate someone who is straight-forward and authentic. Don't promise what you have no intention of doing and don't be afraid to have an opinion (just know how and when to share one gracefully!).

    Having strong confidence in yourself gives people the ability to be more confident in YOU and what you say. So you can be super sweet or bitchy with your hustle, but just stay within the realm of what your natural personality tends to be and where your strengths lie and OWN it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by london View Post

    The guys who over promise set themselves up to under deliver. My highest paying regulars/ casual customers have shown their wealth by simply spending in large sums without flinching and without trying to 'maneuver' anything out of the situation. They either enjoy your company or they don't.
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    Also, if he isn't your regular of like... a year, he shouldn't 'owe' you anything because you shouldn't have taken an IOU. I don't take IOU's from ANYONE. No matter what. Always get paid upfront. Always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sia View Post
    If he were really a millionaire, he wouldn't be counting songs. He's ask you how much he owed you for your time, then hand over the hundreds with no hesitation.

    I do agree with this one...great post Cheers!!!

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