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    Question Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Ok, I have kept track of my earnings and I consistently make more money right before and a few days into my menstration. I want to go on birth control, but I was wondering if it affects any of the "pheremones" from menstration. I tried looking it up on here, but couldnt find anything.

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Supposedly, and I'm not sure how true this is, but supposedly you make the most money while ovulating. It goes: Ovulating, not ovulating, menstruating, then pregnancy and birth control. There's an article on the internet about it, but I have no clue where it is. I can't remember exactly but it the study compared different dancers on and off birth control, ovulating, and menstruating and their sales/tips per hour.

    You can always buy pheromone sprays to make up for it if you find you make less money. I was actually wondering the same thing because many forms of birth control simulates a state of pregnancy.

    Of course it could all just be phooey and guys don't care and just wanna see tittays.
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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harleigh HellKat View Post
    Supposedly, and I'm not sure how true this is, but supposedly you make the most money while ovulating.
    Yes if your body chemistry is going to affect your dancing positively it's going to be during your fertile phase (immediately before ovulation). I've seen articles online as well but haven't saved any links.

    I've chosen to stay off of birth control and use the Fertility Awareness Method (FAM) to avoid pregnancy for the time being. There's a great book called Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler that teaches you all about this. I can actually tell when I'm fertile and when I've ovulated. It's very empowering to know your body so well! And I figure not messing with my natural hormones could possibly attract more customers... it at least couldn't hurt!

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Here's the link to an article about the study.

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    i dont remember where the article is, but the conclusion is yes.

    this is my first month on birth control in a long time... ive only worked 1 week when on it and my sales were down from march. BUT my club has also gone downhill (hiring hoodrats, wtf) and tourism was a bit down. we shall see this week.

    also im not a fair candidate since i have pcos and only have my period naturally like 3x a yr. however i am slightly worried cuz i feel less aggressive than usual, and i think my aggression is a big part in why i clean up at work. if i notice my hustle slip, then fuck it, im going off it again.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    How would 'pheremones' affect anything, especially in a smoke-filled club with beer stained carpet smells? How it affect your attitude, I cannot say, other than how many other things affect your attitudes as well?

    It's the look, the attitude, and impressions of my having fun with you.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    http://www.popsci.com/category/tags/exotic-dancers

    there we go.... wasnt too hard to find the study.

    i dont wear perfume... but i will say that i believe pheromones make a difference. I tend to make money when i wear 0-very little deodorant (gross, i know, but whatever im not paying me). And even if the club is smokey (which not all are, especially in this day an age with all the smoking bans) i think the personal scents (wow that also sounds kinda gross) really only get smelled during the dances, when the stripper is closer. therefore they likely help sell repeat dances.

    that being said, the study of course does not indicate whether pheromones are the cause or not. it details the correlation between fertility and income, but it could be just as likely due to attitude or whatever else is associated with being on the pill as it could be due to pheromones that are associated with being on the pill.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    I was on the pill when I started dancing. I stopped taking it several months later. A month after I stopped (once my body had gone through a full cycle and my hormones were somewhat back to normal) I consistently started making more money. Probably about $1-200 more per shift. It got easier to get repeat dances and to get guys into rooms after taking them back for a dance.

    That's just my experience though. Everyone is different. Personally it was a learning experience for me and I will never use any form of hormonal birth control again. Not because it affects my $$$, but because I don't want to mess up my natural body chemistry!

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    ya, i don't feel as flirty on the pill... i can honestly say, when i'm in the mood for cock, i can HUSTLE like a pro. I don't know the science behind it, but i do know that right now im on the pill, and it doesn't feel the same as the "money rush" i had last year over the summer. I was single and not on the pill... i can remember feeling real sexual at work each night ~hard to explain i guess

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Are you sure this is not an effect of your mood/personality changes at these times and not some nebulous, epochal bio-effect on others? As per jennsweet's post above?
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    Are you sure this is not an effect of your mood/personality changes at these times and not some nebulous, epochal bio-effect on others? As per jennsweet's post above?
    if you read my post, i put emphasis on correlation as opposed to causation .
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    Correlation shows only a random degree of connection between two events and omits the consideration of confounding and masking factors.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    Correlation shows only a random degree of connection between two events and omits the consideration of confounding and masking factors.
    i know this... hence why i stated it was different than causation. sheesh, read through posts before i assuming i am too retarded/uneducated to understand the definition of correlation. remember, my degree was in mathematics... i was drilled enough on the difference in school, i dont really need lectures on it on a stripper forum
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Default Re: Does being on birth control hurt your sales?

    It might affect it some, but if you are fertile and sexually active, wouldn't you be much more relaxed and calm not worrying about being pregnant all the time?

    I have never tracked my figures specifically over a long time, but I had bigger boobs on birth control, and custies tend to like that.

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    No need to get yourself all worked up. I know you said that. The comment wasn't really meant for you.

    But lots of people (reading this) are commonly led to believe that correlation is causation. Lots of marketing people use this as their primary theme to convince people to buy their product.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    How would 'pheremones' affect anything, especially in a smoke-filled club with beer stained carpet smells? How it affect your attitude, I cannot say, other than how many other things affect your attitudes as well?

    It's the look, the attitude, and impressions of my having fun with you.
    Yuck not everyone works in a club like that!
    Are you a man threlayer? If so, I don't see how you can comment on this like you know anything. Perhaps your "impressions of having fun" with a girl are being swayed by her pheromones and you don't even know it??

    As a woman and a dancer, I've been on the pill for 11yrs and started wearing pheromone perfume a few months ago. My money has definitely increased. And its not my attitude because I forget I'm wearing the stuff all the time, I seriously never think "oh yeah, I've got my secret weapon", which I should sometimes! But I just go about my business and dudes are falling all over me.
    I HIGHLY suggest it, but you have to find the right one for your body chemistry. I've borrowed my gf's pheromone perfume twice and both times it didn't work for me at all.

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    If this works for you, maybe you should contact the mfgr. and propose to be one of several subjects doing research for them and their marketing division.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    If this works for you, maybe you should contact the mfgr. and propose to be one of several subjects doing research for them and their marketing division.
    and I would waste my time doing this why...??

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    i think it probably depends a lot on the girl. like i do my worst usually when i'm ovulating and when i'm pms'ing. pms makes sense because i get waaaay emotional. ovulating doesn't make sense, cos of the study on that...but i spend the whole time dealing with guys trying to get me to leave the club to have sex with them right now for free...flattering.

    i do my best when i've got my period. i figure it's because that's when i'm my most rational and detached.

    so if birth control made me more emotional, it would be bad for my money. if it made me not give a fuck, it would be amazing. but i haven't tried it, so i don't know.
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