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    ^When vaccinations plummeted, the levels for those diseases skyrocketed.

    To have a "natural immunity", you have to have the antibodies for it. Your body creates a specific antibody for a specific pathogen, but must first come into contact with that pathogen. So yes, being unexposed to germs, bacteria and viruses, through use of disinfectant, means that people don't have natural immunities. But it also means they haven't have the disease in question.
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    Tonnes of links? The study that got people so worried in the first place claimed there was no link - before Wakefield decided to denounce the MMR.

    Vaccines are given to children around the same time they start to display delayed development. Coincidence? Not really. Autistic children that don't get vaccinated also show the signs of their autism at that age. That's just the age at which it becomes apparent.

    Vaccines don't kill immune systems. Do you know how vaccines work? They put a little dead virus in you, your immune system plays beat up the virus for a while, learns the tactics, and is prepared for any time the virus really does enter your body. Immune second responses are higher. They build your immune system. They help your body know what antibodies to create. It's like you building your immune system by playing outside all day - safe exposure to nasty stuff, so your body can deal with it.

    Back to the autism thing, though, being a sensitive issue -

    I find it ironic that you are advocating for something that has been banned in your country. The issue that many have with childhood vaccines is a preservative called Thimerosal. It is banned in 20 different countries.

    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac.../ucm096228.htm

    Even the American Food and Drug Administration has a whole page about the additive because it is still allowed in this country. I wonder if parents even know they can request vaccines without this preservative? And if it is completely harmless why is it banned in 20 countries? Would you want any amount of mercury in your babies body? If it causes autism or not, in my opinion, is irrelevant. Do you know how many vaccines have been recalled because of adverse effects?
    Vaccines are a medical miracle but it doesnt mean they are perfect. If you are going to do the research do it on the vaccine, manufacturer, and illness itself.

    I have heard all kinds of ideas about HIV/Aids. Fact is people with the disease can live a production life with the illness now because of the new drug therapies available. Before people died horrible terrifying deaths from it. The research will continue until they find a cure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlfromipanema View Post
    Having your baby in an American hospital?

    The movie “The Business of Being Born” exposes the corruption of hospital delivery rooms. This is just the trailer. The movie is somewhat graphic, but is important for any expectant mother to watch.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgLf8hHMgo

    Having completed a rotation in such an institution, I can safely say that I will not be having a baby in such a place, unless of course, it is medically necessary. Why? Because virtually everything that goes on in the delivery room, from the positioning of the mother to the drugs used, to mechanical and surgical interventions, are not only unnecessary for a healthy labor, but detrimental to both the mother and baby. Unfortunately, not enough American women are informed of this, and put trust in their obstetricians without doing proper research.

    Literature on the topic of natural birth recommends avoiding medical interventions unless there it is a medical necessity (Lothian et al, 2004) such as fetal or maternal distress, the mother is post-term in her pregnancy, has an infection or has preeclampsia (Amis, 2007).

    This is what happens upon admission. They pay no mind to your wishes, especially if you prefer a natural birth. They will hook you up to an IV and start you on pitocin, which is synthetic oxytocin. Oxytocin is a naturally occurring hormone that causes contractions and promotes maternal bonding. Pitocin only induces contractions. So what is the need to induce labor? So the doc won’t miss his afternoon round of golf.

    Here are the risks of induction of labor:
    mechanically assisted birth (use of forceps or vacuum to remove baby from birth canal)
    fetal shoulder dystocia
    fever
    fetal heart changes
    babies born with a low weight
    increase in admissions to the NICU and longer hospital stays (Amis, 2007)
    amniotic fluid embolism
    uterine rupture
    prolonged labor
    chorioamnionitis
    nuchal cord
    fetal death
    and cardiovascular complications (MacDorman et al, 2002)

    Evidence based practice recommends the following for normal, uncomplicated, positive birth outcomes: no unnecessary interventions, freedom of movement, alternating position changes that facilitate gravity, Lamaze breathing, hydrotherapy, non-supine positions [Stark, 2008].

    This is just a taste of the expansive research done on hospital births in the US. I didn’t even touch on epidurals, episiotomies, c-sections, and the vicious cycle of hospital birthing.
    I think alot of this has to do with the medical communties view of women. How many times have you or a woman you know go to a doctor with a symptom only to be blown off or told they need a shrink? Later finding out it is a serious medical condition.

    My grandma went to doctors for 20 years with an illness. They often told her that she needed a shrink or gave her some cream. She finally found a young female doctor who immediately knew what it was. Her bladder had fallen because of a botched hystorectomy.

    I have had this happen to me too with another illness. I will not go to a male doctor unless I have no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    I find it ironic that you are advocating for something that has been banned in your country. The issue that many have with childhood vaccines is a preservative called Thimerosal. It is banned in 20 different countries.

    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac.../ucm096228.htm

    Even the American Food and Drug Administration has a whole page about the additive because it is still allowed in this country. I wonder if parents even know they can request vaccines without this preservative? And if it is completely harmless why is it banned in 20 countries? Would you want any amount of mercury in your babies body? If it causes autism or not, in my opinion, is irrelevant. Do you know how many vaccines have been recalled because of adverse effects?
    Vaccines are a medical miracle but it doesnt mean they are perfect. If you are going to do the research do it on the vaccine, manufacturer, and illness itself.

    I have heard all kinds of ideas about HIV/Aids. Fact is people with the disease can live a production life with the illness now because of the new drug therapies available. Before people died horrible terrifying deaths from it. The research will continue until they find a cure.
    I'm aware it's been banned here, and that the rate of diagnosis for autism hasn't lowered. The only thing I'm advocating is listening to the differences between autism and mercury poisoning. Whether or not autism is caused by mercury poisoning is very, very relevant, considering my first post was saying that I hope this thread's issue - AIDS not being the result of HIV - is just another needess hysteria, like mercury having anything to do with autism - which it doesn't.

    Please tell me precisely where I say mercury based additives have no adverse effects or that vaccines are perfect, as opposed to the paragraphs and posts solely about whether or not autism was one of those adverse effects? Because I can't see where I said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissShyGirl View Post
    I really don't think the diseases popping up are due to the anti vaccine 'trend'. A lot of it is people being over kill on disinfectant and not giving their bodies a chance to have natural immunities.
    No, that's just not correct in regards to the illness popping up that are traditionally immunized against, like measles and rubella. Research how these illnesses are transfered and the devastating effects they have on newborns, sick children, the elderly, and those simply unlucky enough to have not fought it off.

    There is no way to know who can fight measles and who it will cause mortal encephalitis to. But there is a way to prevent it and that is vaccination.

    Re: flu and chicken pox.....same idea. Most kids are fine when they get it, but some do die from complications. I personally don't think they are necessary, but just because we accepted illnesses because we had them as kids doesn't mean this modern world has to. A generation ago, polio was considered a common childhood illness too.

    Anyway, I'm childless so this isn't my debate. It does affect HIV/AIDS sufferers though be they become immuno-comprimized and are more likely to catch diseases that have almost been eradicted due to vaccine.

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    My physician friend had both of her labors induced for the convenience of the doctor, so he wouldn't have to work beyond his schedule. They tried to do an emergency C-section for her second child, but both her and her doctor husband fought against it, so the hospital relented.

    She, as a physician who has delivered many babies concedes that doctor's do C-sections way more than needed due to fear of malpractice litigation. Technically, C-section is safer than a natural delivery, when you compare the risks. Basically, if they are going to give you a C-section, unless you're a doctor you're self, you're going to get one.

    Fucked up, isn't it? At least this is in the US, not sure about Canada and UK.

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    Aids does not target gay people -- there is vertically NO lesbian aids epidemic (we stress breast cancer as our big cause) so for a disease to target gay people for the unclean homosexual lifestyle theory cuz then why would dykes get a break and gay men not as it makes no sense both are equally as gay.

    As for clubbing , doing drugs, & having unsafe sex with multiple partners do you really believe it takes being gay to do that. If that was true then are we calling every rock band a group of aids infected fags, cuz I do believe sex drugs and rock n roll is a habit of lots of people outside of the gays in Babylon some watched on Queer as Folk to form their opinions on.

    The only fact that does come to play is anal sex when barebacking does run a higher risk of contact, but that would probably explain why str8 males among minorities run the higher risk the gaymen nowadays as they seem to all enjoy doggy style, but gaymen are more likely to wear a rubber while doing so.

    Not that is matters much if some1 is str8 or nearly a virgin or a new born Aids spreads through blood and other means & not through behavior as a gay prostitute who does drugs all day might not have aids or any std & a married woman who only had sex on her wedding night and never even cusses could very well have aids. Aids does not discriminate.

    I am std free & goodness knows I'm gay, had lots of sex, go clubbing, did my share of almost everything. However most the people I party w/ are str8 so theories about the wild gay lifestyle are funny to me cuz I know way too many heterosexual swingers, strippers, fetish models, pornstars , bartenders, DJs, drug dealers to believe gay people own the market on a wild lifestyle. Infact even the wildest gay men parties where they fuck watermelons and pass it along are only a fraction of crazy wild dirty shit str8 people have available to them everyday out in the open.

    Heck just watch tv there is hetero porn in most every primetime drama while two men kissing is not allowed in an ad during the Superbowl cuz ? Yes the bais notion that gay = the unclean unholy perverted lifestyle. Please the str8 male posting on stripper web is not gonna score any points lecturing on the lifestyle morality that puts anyone at risk for HIV. Last I checked strippers work at nights clubs naked dancing on poles to entertained men who are not there thinking about their wives more then likely. Many of those str8men do drugs, have sex with many women, and are just as perverted as any gay man I ever meet--only they tend to lack the good looks and level of respect I would have to say gay men have over the general strip club custies I have dealt with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia View Post
    My physician friend had both of her labors induced for the convenience of the doctor, so he wouldn't have to work beyond his schedule. They tried to do an emergency C-section for her second child, but both her and her doctor husband fought against it, so the hospital relented.

    She, as a physician who has delivered many babies concedes that doctor's do C-sections way more than needed due to fear of malpractice litigation. Technically, C-section is safer than a natural delivery, when you compare the risks. Basically, if they are going to give you a C-section, unless you're a doctor you're self, you're going to get one.

    Fucked up, isn't it? At least this is in the US, not sure about Canada and UK.
    In the UK, if you're not hurrying along in labour fast enough/not dilating fast enough, they will give you a bit of a nudge/suggest a C-section/jump up there with forceps - but if a woman put her foot down and told a doctor to get the fuck away from her with a scalpel and that she does not consent, and they did not do so? Christ, I think they'd be hanged. I have no issue wasting the time of a doctor when they're paid by the hour, to do things the way I consent to them being done, ie. getting gassed out on the days I am not feeling needle-friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia View Post
    My physician friend had both of her labors induced for the convenience of the doctor, so he wouldn't have to work beyond his schedule. They tried to do an emergency C-section for her second child, but both her and her doctor husband fought against it, so the hospital relented.

    She, as a physician who has delivered many babies concedes that doctor's do C-sections way more than needed due to fear of malpractice litigation. Technically, C-section is safer than a natural delivery, when you compare the risks. Basically, if they are going to give you a C-section, unless you're a doctor you're self, you're going to get one.

    Fucked up, isn't it? At least this is in the US, not sure about Canada and UK.
    That is scary. That's one reason I wasn't sure about giving birth, I'd be livid if I was forced to have a surgery I didn't need. I've heard some of the bad excuses for having c sections and it disgusts me.

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    I seriously wish I could get out what im trying to say better lol. I am failing at explaining myself and my stance. I swear my brain has just stopped working.

    Anyway as I said im not against ALL vaccines. Yes I am against the cocktail because there is a lot of crap in them. There are some vaccines I will do, but a lot I wont.

    IMO the flu vaccine is stupid. I've had it and I got the flu worse then I did when I didn't have the vaccine, I actually ended up with pneumonia I was so sick. So pointless ones like that, no myself nor my son will have. But yes there are some I will do. I am just researching them very carefully and being very picky about what he gets and I am spreading them out.

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    Id would love to watch this full length documentary on the HIV/AIDS thing..seems very interesting.
    And yes..The hospitals do push C-sections..I was induced,but didn't have a C Section..I was lucky. The medical world in our country is fucked in the ass.
    The insurance companies are murderers and thieves.
    Doctors do things based on what the insurance companies say-
    I was 38 weeks pregnant with toxemia,and my doc refused to induce me because he could be held liable if something went wrong,sure enough the following week my blood pressure went up so high they thought I was gona have a stroke (So they finally induced me) I was fucked up for 2 months after everett was born..My blood pressure was 143/92 at one point.
    And I don't take medicine unless I HAVE to. I didn't take my blood pressure meds..I know it was high,dangerously high,But I know if you take it you have to ween your self off of it or else it can fuck you up really bad,not to mention my blood pressure was perfect before the last month of my pregnancy..so why mess with it.
    Lots of rest and relaxation always brought it down.

    This country is based on money,and nothing more. its sad and fucking disgusting.
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    ^^ Your Munchkin shares a birthday with me!!! (just saw your siggy)

    Sorry you had such a rough go. Im on watch for my blood pressure skyrocketing so I know how scary it is, but I refuse to take meds. I just stick to bed rest and keeping myself relaxed. I also am having pelvic problems so there have been whispers of csection in the future which I am flat out refusing.

    I know I am capable of giving birth vaginally but its all just money and turn around. Prenatal doctors have huge waiting lists here so its a matter of getting the baby out of one patient so they can move onto the next.

    Im glad things worked out and your okay now though and good for you for sticking it out and not going for the meds

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    ^^Everything will be fine. You do just need to relax,drink lots of water..I'm sure your Dr. told you all of this!
    and make sure you stick to your guns. Its your body,your baby-don't let any dr. or nurse sway you in any direction..and please do lots and lots of research,so you're educated,in case something comes up,you'll know exactly what their talking about and you'll be able to make good decisions!
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    ^^ Yep im drinking a small lake every day lol. Resting lots and doing my research. I have 9 weeks left till D Day so im all ready for it and have my war suit on ready to battle

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxcbbw View Post
    ^The article you posted claims it gives "similar" neurological damage. The research study I posted doesn't claim, it studies, oddly enough. Mercury poisoning is mercury poisoning. Developmental disorders are developmental disorders. And no one has ever misdiagnosed one for the other because they are so different. Even the "common ground" of speech and motor problems are two completely different kettles of fish, ie. displaying dyspraxia vs. ataxia. Acute mercury poisoning does indeed cause neurological damage, that does indeed affect speech and motor control. That does not mean it is "similar to autism" whatsoever.

    Again, a study, not an article that reads like an editorial this time? It's one thing to provide links, it's another to provide links that don't rely on techniques better suited to a creative writing class. Its comparison of neurological damage to other, totally different neurological conditions literally makes me giggle. If I punched someone in the head I'd be giving them neurological damage - the day someone tells me that's anything like autism I think I'll scream.
    And this makes vaccines okay?
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    Wow, a homophobic racist. At least you left women out of it (for now). Btw, not all blacks are on welfare, and not all people on welfare are black. In fact the biggest welfare frauds I ever knew were WHITE.
    Which parts of my post are racist and "homophobic" and why? Did you read the post I was responding to, to get its context?

    What does "homophobic" mean anyway? Are you able to explain that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissShyGirl View Post
    Agreed. I know a lot of gays who live very clean life styles.

    Also most the stereotypical trashy welfare people I knew were white. (ftr I am NOT saying everyone on welfare is trashy... im talking about the people who use it to abuse it, not use it for what its for, getting things together. I have known many people on welfare who were very clean respectable people just having a hard time with things).
    I did not say all homosexuals have dirty lifestyles. All homosexuals also do not have AIDS, which was the subject of the post I was responding to.

    I also did not say that all blacks are on welfare, or that only blacks are on welfare, or that all people on welfare are trashy. I was talking about what welfare has doen for black neighbourhoods in general. The criticism was of welfare, not blacks. Welfare programmes have long existed for whites, but in the 60s special welfare programmes were created for blacks.

    Seems we are getting a lot of knee-jerk reactions here. Responses which ignore the words which triggered them are evidence that they were programmed and conditionned.
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    I don't personally know anyone on benefits that isn't white. Or any gay people that take drugs/have multiple sexual partners. But, that's just my area and the people I know. Maybe Hopper lives somewhere different.
    You mean a different planet to yours?

    You know that many homosexuals - I did not say all - live the kind of lifestyle that exposes them to health hazards. Clubbing hours a night (sleep deprivation) on drugs to keep them high, keep them awake, etc on top of smoking dope, nicotine, dirinking alcohol etc. and anally penetrating or receiving ten times each night with different partners in the toilets or wherever. You know the rectal wall is liable to damage and admits bacteria and toxins more readily than our protective outer skin. Many of them go to further extremes with toys and other props.

    Not all homosexuals pursue this lifestyle. But even those who don't still practice anal penetration (or receive), some likely with those who do have that lifestyle. Even if they don't, anal penetration is a disease-risk practice by it's nature and many homosexuals today, like many heterosexuals, are not using condoms.

    AIDS is basically a collection of symptoms for which no definite cause has been established, but this kind of fatigueing and high-risk lifestyle certainly correlates in the case of homosexuals. We don't need to suspect that the elites have targeted homosexuals with this disease to explain the fact that it originated largely with homosexuals and that the incidence of it is propertionately higher among them than the wider population.

    It would be "homophobic" or "hating" not to acknolwedge these dangers.

    Deny, deny.
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    Aids does not target gay people -- there is vertically NO lesbian aids epidemic (we stress breast cancer as our big cause) so for a disease to target gay people for the unclean homosexual lifestyle theory cuz then why would dykes get a break and gay men not as it makes no sense both are equally as gay.
    The lifestyle I was speaking of applies to male homosexuals. I was not thinking of lesbians. Homosexuals themselves think of AIDS as a specifically "gay issue" because of its predominance among them. I didn't make it up to smear them.

    As for clubbing , doing drugs, & having unsafe sex with multiple partners do you really believe it takes being gay to do that. If that was true then are we calling every rock band a group of aids infected fags, cuz I do believe sex drugs and rock n roll is a habit of lots of people outside of the gays in Babylon some watched on Queer as Folk to form their opinions on.
    Straights with these lifestyles are high risk too. But somewhat less so because anal penetration is not as frequent as it is (necessarily) among males homosexuals. I am aware that some homosexuals don't do anal, but those in "the lifestyle" likely do.

    The only fact that does come to play is anal sex when barebacking does run a higher risk of contact, but that would probably explain why str8 males among minorities run the higher risk the gaymen nowadays as they seem to all enjoy doggy style, but gaymen are more likely to wear a rubber while doing so.
    Even with a rubber, the receiver is the one whose rectal wall is suffering damage and that leads to infection and toxicity, especially because the rectum of course contains feces.

    Not that is matters much if some1 is str8 or nearly a virgin or a new born Aids spreads through blood and other means & not through behavior as a gay prostitute who does drugs all day might not have aids or any std & a married woman who only had sex on her wedding night and never even cusses could very well have aids. Aids does not discriminate.
    That's how it spreads to homosexuals not in the lifestyle and eventually to straights.

    I am std free & goodness knows I'm gay, had lots of sex, go clubbing, did my share of almost everything. However most the people I party w/ are str8 so theories about the wild gay lifestyle are funny to me cuz I know way too many heterosexual swingers, strippers, fetish models, pornstars , bartenders, DJs, drug dealers to believe gay people own the market on a wild lifestyle. Infact even the wildest gay men parties where they fuck watermelons and pass it along are only a fraction of crazy wild dirty shit str8 people have available to them everyday out in the open.
    I would say those straights are a small minority.

    Heck just watch tv there is hetero porn in most every primetime drama while two men kissing is not allowed in an ad during the Superbowl cuz ? Yes the bais notion that gay = the unclean unholy perverted lifestyle. Please the str8 male posting on stripper web is not gonna score any points lecturing on the lifestyle morality that puts anyone at risk for HIV. Last I checked strippers work at nights clubs naked dancing on poles to entertained men who are not there thinking about their wives more then likely. Many of those str8men do drugs, have sex with many women, and are just as perverted as any gay man I ever meet--only they tend to lack the good looks and level of respect I would have to say gay men have over the general strip club custies I have dealt with.
    None of that is as intense as the clubbing many male homosexuals do. Those straights are less likely to score as often because of that lack of good looks, and because they are married. Thedrug-taking I was talking about is the intense kind many homosexuals do in club situations.
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    are you allowed to post shit like this on this website? where are the mods?
    Yeah, this is a stripper website - it should be scrupulously censored.
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    we are all perverts in the SC in my opinion. Hes a pervert, you're a pervert, I'm a pervert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    This is the kinda retarded shit you have to believe to think vaccines cause autism?
    No, what they have in common is questionning authority. I don't automatically believe the establishment's line on vaccination and I don't think what I am told to think about homosexuals, welfare or whatever the media-planted bug is you have up your ass about my post.

    Heavy media conditionning also causes retardation too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    we are all perverts in the SC in my opinion. Hes a pervert, you're a pervert, I'm a pervert.

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    Yeah, and we haven't observed HIV infecting and killing CD4 T-cells...and OF COURSE our killer T-cells, never then kill off the infected ones.

    Whateves, some morons will believe anything. If you're on board with this theory, then I recommend breathing through your ears. It works!! REALLY!!
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    Oh as to the vaccine issue...There was a thread a few years ago where I posted ALL the data I could find. I'm not re-writing or hunting up the links tho, so use the search function if you are interested. The ONLY sites I could find with any info to support the link between autism and vaccines were trying to sale crap...or were quoting the moron Dr who admitted he made it up.

    If you aren't vaccinating your kids, then I won't have them around me or mine. I'm hoping that with the current rise of several of these diseases (yep, it's already started) they start quarantining the unvacced from the general population in the future. It isn't fair to expose the very young infants that have not had an opportunity to be vacced yet.
    "I hear you calling and it's needles and pins. I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name...You're poision. but I don't wanna break these chains.... I wanna love you but I'd better not touch."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissShyGirl View Post
    IMO the flu vaccine is stupid. I've had it and I got the flu worse then I did when I didn't have the vaccine, I actually ended up with pneumonia I was so sick.
    I also caught a really bad flu the only year I had a flu vaccine too, back in University when they recommended all students get one, particularly ones living in the dorms like me. And if I'm not mistaken, that was also the semester that my flu turned into pneumonia and I was out of classes for 2 weeks, had to drop one course, and did shitty in the others.

    Yup, I'm pretty much personally against the flu vaccine as well, for myself. However, high risk people and medical workers do get it and it can help. Influenza is hundreds of different viruses though, its really hard to control. The flu vaccine really shouldn't be called a vaccine, its more of a, errr, potential preventative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper View Post
    No, what they have in common is questionning authority. I don't automatically believe the establishment's line on vaccination and I don't think what I am told to think about homosexuals, welfare or whatever the media-planted bug is you have up your ass about my post.

    Heavy media conditionning also causes retardation too.
    Of course, why would anyone believe hundreds of scientists over a former playboy model and a guy who talks out of his anus. Makes perfect sense.

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