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    Default Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    ... does anyone else find it challenging to get the 1st LD?

    Being in Vegas w/ soooooo many dancers makes it a challenging industry ... let alone w/ the recession. I'm sure other cities/clubs have more dancers to customers ratio too.

    I also have tats and add to that my nationality I know I don't appeal to the vast majority of custys. I know my clientele base (early 40's white businessmen), but some nights they're not in the club. In this case I will periodically go outside of my clientele base ... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Lately I've been FORCING myself to go outside of my clientele base ... but I hate wasting my energy on custys that have NO interest in me but won't tell me ... oh, but they're more than happy to have me sit on their lap and talk for free ... ugh!

    Some nights I'm on it ... ya know the nights where it's YOUR night ... those are nice! And of course other nights I feel jinxed.

    I know it's kinda silly to ask ... is it just me? ... because I know it's a tuff time for a lot of us. I'm just in a weird mood and feeling out of sorts. I don't think it's Vegas because I love this city ... or maybe it IS Vegas and it's not me. When I was here in summer 2005 it was raining $$. I moved here 5 months ago and OMG how it's changed.


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    I didn't state myself clearly ... sorry ... what I meant is getting the 1st LD from each custy I approach.

    My challenge is getting each custy I approach to say YES ... or maybe I'm just not being realistic. I am selective who I approach ... target my clientele base. I can't do what some other dancers do ... hit every available lap. I tried it and I got totally drained w/in a few hours.

    If I can't immediately get the custy to the 3/$100 section, I go for the $20. If I get the custy to say yes to a $20, I'll give him a hell of a LD and then hit em' for the upsell ... of course sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't ... sometimes he wants 2-4 $20 dances ... and sometimes the custy only wants one dance.

    I just get frustrated w/ custys that are more than happy to talk to me for free but will NOT get a freakin' $20 dance! I don't say this out of arrogance. The custy SEEMS to be into me ... talking away about what the fuck ever ... but when it comes time to buy a dance it's NO. WTF?!
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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    I feel like once I get my first dance, I'm on a roll. It's hard, though.

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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    No, it's not just you! Yes, it can appear daunting to nail that first dance. There are many nights where I won't make ANYTHING or only stage tips/customer-purchased drinks until the crowd warms up or the momentum gets going. Which can take an hour or two from when I first hit the floor! It used to scare me at first, but most of those nights tend to wind up actually being better than the nights where I get a few dances right away.

    When I'm not making sales right from the beginning, I slow down and amuse myself by chatting with club regulars and preserve my energy for a bit. Then when I re-energize myself, I make it my goal that the first guy to dance with me HAS to get more than one so I work that much harder in my hustle to increase those odds.

    Basically, I stop looking for that first dance of the night and instead target the ONE guy who I will get a string of dances from. Once that first guy has been found, I move on to the next ONE guy who might be the one and focus on getting more dances with him than the first one. etc..

    It's instant motivation for me to find the diamond in the rough who will be largely responsible for the bulk of my income. Reframing the night makes me more likely to have a good night than thinking too hard on getting just that first dance. Hope this helps!
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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    I know EXACTLY what you mean. I LOVE getting that first dance fast. I'm a very persistent dancer, but I'm an impatient person, so I just hate waiting to make the 20's.

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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    I personally found it really easy because I told guys it was my first. The practically lined up, lol.

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    ^I like that! "Wanna be my first?"

    Getting the first dance is more mentally challenging for me than anything. My club doesn't have a day shift, so it's very obvious when we haven't even started putting girls on stage. Sometimes that makes selling easier, but sometimes it's clear the guys want to throw back a few beers and take their time and watch the stage before getting dances. Later in the night -->money rolls much more quickly.

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    I don't tend to do well with the "wanna be my first?" line because I look younger than I am and guys who aren't familiar with my club think I am new to the CLUB or to dancing when I say that. I do better when they have no idea whether it is my first or 100th dance of the night.
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    It is definitely not just you. I hate working to get that first dance most nights. Some nights it's easy but more and more it's quite the challenge. Of course I work in a locals heavy club so it can be a bit tough to sell the same thing to the same guys night after night. Once you get it though, the rest of the night is usually pretty smooth sailing.

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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    in my experience, yeah once you get that first ld the night is on a roll..it gives you that boost. and i know what you mean about some nights are yours and you feel on it, and some are not

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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    I'm feeling better ... had a decent $$ night quickly last night ... nice to go home early w/ $$ in my pocket! ... funny how money helps a gal to feel better

    When I posted this thread I was in a funky mood due to last week. I worked my ass off and it was a struggle $$! Tuesday is the start of each work week ... so prior going back to work yesterday, especially after my horrific saturday, I was in a funk and worried I would once again struggle. I know it's silly because as a long time dancer I know how the industry is ... but sometimes that stupid voice inside of me gets the better of me ... even though I know better.

    And I know it's not just me because there are some nights at my club where the super hot chics (and I mean totally perfect chics!) have little to no dances. I'm always shocked by this and definitely shows me ... it's not just me.

    Thank you everyone who replied! Sometimes I need support from the SW gals ... it helps a lot!

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    That's what I found the most challenging dancing in Vegas. I work at a large club so sometimes it's overwhelming to select that first customer to start with. Once I make my first $100 it's easy sailing from there and I normally go from lap to lap or hit up the guys at the bar (since they are most likely to go for 3/$100). Going from lap to lap definitely brings in a $$$ because guys will see you dancing for someone and assume you are in high demand. I know it's tiring but its just something you get use to. My feet would literally bruise my first week in Vegas but I continued on because the money is too good to pass up.

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    Once I pay my housefee & tipout, I feel like I'm on a roll. Everything I make after that is MINE. That alone makes me motivated.
    Also, after I get my first STRING of dances...although 1 is okay, too.

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    Default Re: Getting the 1st LD ... is it just me? ... or ...

    Quote Originally Posted by NREXM View Post
    I normally go from lap to lap or hit up the guys at the bar (since they are most likely to go for 3/$100).
    I totally can NOT do the lap to lap hopping. I tried it. Got seriously burnt out FAST! I do my best to target my clientele ... sometimes I'm on it and read the custy perfect, other times I'm off but I'm not expending wasted energy on custys I know aren't into my type of dancers ... alternative.

    Thanks for mentioning the guys at the bar. I use to hustle them w/ success but it's been over a month since I've focused on them. Will get back to doing that again!

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