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    I guess something similar has been asked before, but I have a really hard time to make conversation and be interesting to the customer.. I know you're supposed to ask stuff like what they do, where they're from and then go from there but I always get stuck and they don't even seem to wanna talk about that anyways (at least most of the guys). the other girls seem to always know what to say, really bubbly and funny but unless I am drinking (and I admit even then I don't compare to them) I feel really boring to them... I don't wanna have to get hammered every time and most of the time even if I wanted I don't get enough drinks for that cause I'm not gonna spend my own money on drinks and I don't usually get too many from customers.. It really helps me though to drink but I don't feel like that should be the solution.. Any tips?

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    "Hey, what's your name? _____? Oh, that's a nice name! I'm _____."

    I don't care if his name is Steve or Bob or Paul, fake it. Ask how they are and if they're having a good time. You are having a good day. Your good day started when they walked in the door. Make them aware of this! They'll drop some kind of personal detail, run with it. Pay attention. Express sympathy/that whatever they just said is awesome.
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    thanks! i just have such a hard time.. we have a looot of regulars at this new club that I'm a and they're basically buddies with the girls, plus the girls really are funny and all that stuff. So compared to them, I look "awkward" (Yes, the customers even tell me that)

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    Click on the link in my signature to listen to my iTunes podcast. It's Waaay too much to type out. Or just go to the iTunes store and search Strip and Grow Rich.
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    omg MONEY advice... talk about THEM, not you. Repeat their names when you talk to them, act interested and lots of laughing and touching their shoulders with gestures. keep the convo about them, and what they like. the last thing they want to hear is you ramble on about shoes and girl drama. they will feel like you really are interested in them, and the tips should come. ~you won't bank being shy.

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    I second the not being shy to make money- I'm not naturally dominant at all, I'm still not, but getting better at it- i've gotten pretty good at asking for tips (which i would never do) and always try to upsell to the VIP. Conversation was hard for me to get flow-ish, but i never have a problem with conversation- just making it so there isnt much dead air, which like jennsweet said, put everything back to them, eventually they'll say something that you have in common, (or fake it haha) I've also realized being more flirty, touching their shoulder or hand, giggling, does a lot more than any words will!

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    great advice ladies, I'm gonna be a little dominant tonight

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    Sunshine, I read in another post of yours on a different thread that you feel so silly sometimes because you have a graduate degree....but you can't seem to dominate the sales conversation.

    This job is not about dancing. It is a job based on skill. Just like any skill you can learn it, but you have to have the right teacher and the right format that works best for your learning style.

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    ^ And that's why I've become much better, I'm working a lot, and learn more everyday Eh, and sorry, I have to disagree with "regurgitate the facts" since most of my college career was dominated by numerous term papers, essays, and other writing samples that needed comprehension of material, not "memorizing"

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    I also find it really hard to keep the conversation "sexy", sometimes I just run out of stuff to say so the conversation turns to his family and it's pretty weird to bring up a lap dance after that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    I also find it really hard to keep the conversation "sexy", sometimes I just run out of stuff to say so the conversation turns to his family and it's pretty weird to bring up a lap dance after that..
    Ahhhh no! Never talk about the family. Even if he starts talking about it, I would say something like "Ya your wife and kids sound great, but you're with me now!" It sounds like you're just new at a nice club that where talking your way into a CR is the goal instead of getting a few dances.
    Some talking points:

    -Do most guys go to dinner before they come in? That's one I talk about with guys all the time. I ask them where they ate and what they had and mmmm that sounds good! And while I'm talking about fucking dinner (who really gives a shit) I'm acting so interested and touching their arm or knee.

    -Also ask where they're from and talk some BS about that ("Ohh do you like it there? I heard this..."). Then BS about where you live. Ask if they have a dog and talk about your own.

    -Compliments. "You're so funny, you make me smile, I like your positive energy" I like to make them not sound like total BS like "you're so hot", even if you think they are.

    -Ask if they've been there before. If so, say "oh so you know how fun it is here! well I must have missed you before but I'm glad I'm with you now!"
    If they haven't, "Ohh a first-timer, well don't worry, I'll take good care of you!"

    -Sometimes when a convo is just not poppin I'll say something like "so have you done anything exciting lately?" if he says no, say "would you like to?"

    You'll get more comfortable like the other girls with time. When I started at my club 2 1/2yrs ago I was a nervous awkward bitch and it showed. Now I'm used to it and have built up my skills, and my confidence shows


    Oh and to get them to buy you drinks more, always ask them what they are drinking. They will usually go "what are you drinking? oh nothing? you want one?" Or I'll say "are you gonna get another drink? so I can get one too?" w/the pouty face. Works almost all the time and if he's not gonna buy you a drink, then he's not gonna buy a CR with you so fuck it.

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    Oh and keep it sexy with your body language. No matter what you're talking about, look at him like you're so interested and you want to jump his bones so badly. I'm just thinking of how bad I want a thousand bucks and I don't let that out of my mind. Don't get so caught up in trying to have a good conversation that you forget the point is to eventually make a SALE!

    If you find yourself talking about something "too smart" or "unsexy", just say "Woa this is getting off-track though, how bout we just have some good old-fashioned fun and I get naked for you next song?" If he says no at this point, he was never going to say yes.

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    I never ask what they do for work. I don't want the customer to think that I am sizing him up or judging him based on his job. I don't care what they do! As long as they give me money.

    I am going to listen to the Strip and Grow Rich podcast. I think I may finally take the plunge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    Ahhhh no! Never talk about the family. Even if he starts talking about it, I would say something like "Ya your wife and kids sound great, but you're with me now!" It sounds like you're just new at a nice club that where talking your way into a CR is the goal instead of getting a few dances.
    Some talking points:

    -Do most guys go to dinner before they come in? That's one I talk about with guys all the time. I ask them where they ate and what they had and mmmm that sounds good! And while I'm talking about fucking dinner (who really gives a shit) I'm acting so interested and touching their arm or knee.

    -Also ask where they're from and talk some BS about that ("Ohh do you like it there? I heard this..."). Then BS about where you live. Ask if they have a dog and talk about your own.

    -Compliments. "You're so funny, you make me smile, I like your positive energy" I like to make them not sound like total BS like "you're so hot", even if you think they are.

    -Ask if they've been there before. If so, say "oh so you know how fun it is here! well I must have missed you before but I'm glad I'm with you now!"
    If they haven't, "Ohh a first-timer, well don't worry, I'll take good care of you!"

    -Sometimes when a convo is just not poppin I'll say something like "so have you done anything exciting lately?" if he says no, say "would you like to?"

    You'll get more comfortable like the other girls with time. When I started at my club 2 1/2yrs ago I was a nervous awkward bitch and it showed. Now I'm used to it and have built up my skills, and my confidence shows


    Oh and to get them to buy you drinks more, always ask them what they are drinking. They will usually go "what are you drinking? oh nothing? you want one?" Or I'll say "are you gonna get another drink? so I can get one too?" w/the pouty face. Works almost all the time and if he's not gonna buy you a drink, then he's not gonna buy a CR with you so fuck it.

    those are really good tips, thanks! I love the one "have you done anything exciting lately?" definitely gonna use that one. I just started at this new club and although I can tell that there is good money there, I think it's very extras driven. I was trying to sell a couple of champagne rooms (the house charges 160 and I can charge whatever I want) for 30 minutes. I thought I'd just charge 160 too but they wanted to bargain and thought that price included extras. It's pretty sad cause I think that's what the girls do there. They are really aggressive. This one girl dragged a guy to the vip with me and said "we'll do anything you want".

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    when i run out of things to say... before it becomes the awkward quiet, i always defaut to complimenting something about him, like "you look hot in those jeans, or i love your hair..." if its a fat pig farmer you can say 'i think its really hot you work outside all day" (lol, STRETCH) anything sexy you can kinda make up about them keeps the convo going and its still about him. and i agree again with above^ ~no family talk.

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    ^ I have the same thing, once the convo is going, i'm golden, but starting out i run out of questions/things to say sometimes, need "quick before the dead air arrives" topics haha! Compliments definitely work!

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