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    Default Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    I just had to rant about this! I got 2 tips today totalling $35 and only got a little over 10 bucks of it! Yes I know I can opt out of tips, and I know how they do their business blah blah blah, but still, it is just annoying as hell. What makes them think they deserve our tips? They didn't work for it, the guy does not want to tip Imlive for MY performance...He thinks he is tipping me. I will never understand this shit. It just pisses me off! That's just some serious pimpin!

    Rant over

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    Yea, wow.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    i totally agree with you, its stupid, i dont have the option turned off because i dont agree with it, i have debated putting it on sometimes, but then i think about how much i wont recieve of it and it amkes me mad, so i dont want IMlive having 70% of MY tips, so ide rather not have any at all.

    jess xx

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    I totally understand not turning the tips option on. In the beginning I opted out of getting tips, but I turned it on around christmas time. Actually a guest asked me why don't I allow tips, and said he wanted to leave a tip next time we chat. This particular guy leaves me tips maybe twice a month. I never liked the fact that they take a percentage of our tips, but allow it because it does add up for me. But today I had a new member give a $20 tip, and a regular give $15. When I saw the grand total of my take home, I was steaming, hot, raging MAD! I had to rant to cs too. I will still allow tips because it does add up, but it will never sit right with me that they do this. They responded to me on the forum saying it is risk management? Wtf? then fuckin take care of the chargebacks! Anyway, I feel better now lol. I will let it go because other than opting out of tips, there is not much else that we can do about it. Like I said the other day, it is pontless to discuss anything with them fools...

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    pointless* lol

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    hmmm i may enable it if it adds up, but, i dont like it that the customers probably think we get 100% because its a tip, and if they did know, they probably wouldnt tip us lol, its a sore subject, just read the thread, and ImLive seems a bit tetchy on the subject, like they know its wrong, so they sounded slightly angry that someone had the guts to point it out.

    childish really, we deserve the full tip, it is us who do the show, not them, blah ImLive have pissed me off too much this week, i wonder if anywhere in the contract it says they take 70% tips too, tips arnt earnings, there gifts, tokens of appriciation. blah prob no point going into detail about it, they have a problem, they get rid of it lol.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    haha! i was the one who told you the other day i stopped posting, due to the fact they always piss me off. Now look at me the hypocrite! ha! i just couldn't help it today. i had such a great start to the day, and was mad about the tips. you see how upset you can get when you decide to adress negative issues and concerns? geez they pissed me off today! im glad you noticed they were getting pissy with me for calling them out! (scream!) oh well, i know better than to let them get to me like this. i will be glad for saturday to get here. im gonna take off sunday and relax!

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    This is such a pet peeve for me! For any site who thinks they can take a HUGE chunk of our pay when we're the ones getting exposed and working for it! I cant work for any place that wont give me more than 50%




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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    I saw this on the imlive forums....customer service there is a bunch of morons I swear. I don't know what they think them taking 70% is doing for us because they don't absorb chargebacks! I also find it hard to believe that as they said, the hosts want requested them to keep 70% of tips. So unfair!
    I've been on imlive for a little while and never gotten a tip yet, but before I saw this I didn't know they kept 70% of tips as well.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    ive had 2 tips, then i turned it off, this has just reminded me to turn is on, but yeah they take the pickle all the time, i give up, now im just going to accept what they do, i make money so i cant complain there, just hate knowing i could be making way more lol. but im scared to leave as ive got a fair few regs now and im comfy being there.

    jess xx

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    Yeah I think it's BS, too.. I've gotten a couple tips so far since I started and it sucked I couldn't get the whole amount.
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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    Wow, I just noticed that my title says "65 to 75% of tips" Sorry about that. It is 65% to 70% taken (just in case newbies see this) but haha it's still way too much taken! I guess I was really mad that day! Ya, I didn't know that they took a % out either, until I got my first tip.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    Just remember, for every dollar a site brings in, you get more of it than they do.

    I've been running adult sites and billing systems for about a decade now.

    Most adult sites pay out 50-65% of every dollar to the affiliate/advertiser (IMLive pays up to $100 for each customer, $1.25 for each FREE customer, and 20% off the top). So when sites want 15% for operating costs/profit, that leaves only 20-35% to pay for content (aka you ladies). Sites can give you 99% of the money brought in, but no advertiser would ever send any customers there.

    You're biggest problem isn't site/advertisers, it's part of over inflation of America. Most cam girls are in Europe and south/central America's for a reason. They can live well on $80/week. So if as site can take a penny from you to pay an advertiser, they will. Just smart business.

    Girls don't make a cam site profitable. Advertisers do. They have to be competitive with paying advertisers over performers.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    well now i know what site NOT to work on

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    What site out there doesn't keep a percentage? I don't know of any. If you do know of one please post it here and I'll join right away, lol!

    How else would they be able to afford to run the site?

    From my experience the sites that pay a lower percentage have way higher traffic. Doesn't do me any good to get a higher percentage if there are no viewers there.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    Imlives traffic isnt good enough from what i hear of hosts on there for a 30% payout (mine personally is ok, sometimes really slow but im on it 8 hours with a couple hour break between.), MFC has more traffic in my opinion, and they give 50%, what about that? hmm

    AND MFC absorb chargebacks,

    Plus ive heard on a forum that a freind of a host paid for credits, wen to prvt with her, it came back to her as a chargeback, he never chargebecked and showed her his bank statements to prove he didnt chargeback. dunno if this story was true but if so, ImLive are skimmng too.

    i do still however like ImLives set out ive learnt how to get round the chargebacks and mine aint so bad now, plus Free video chat is optional which i love.

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    Last edited by DominoDiva; 05-28-2010 at 04:38 AM. Reason: forgot to add

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    also, we were on about tips, tips are tips, guys dont have to pay them, its by choice of the customer to tip a girl, if he feels she deserves a tip, SHE deserves her tip, not the site, the girl did the show, its not required to tip, so why should imlive expect to take 65-70% of it.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    well, as I said, what site doesn't take a percentage of tips? I don't know of any. Do you? If so, please share!

    Myfreecams takes half your tips for every single tip, right?

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    well in genral, a tip should be a tip, at least MFC is 50%

    im not saying ImLive is the only one to take a % of your tips, just saying its wrong, thats all.

    what i said above goes to any site when discussing about tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    What site out there doesn't keep a percentage? I don't know of any. If you do know of one please post it here and I'll join right away, lol!

    How else would they be able to afford to run the site?

    From my experience the sites that pay a lower percentage have way higher traffic. Doesn't do me any good to get a higher percentage if there are no viewers there.
    My complaint is not them taking a percentage of my shows....we all know they do that. My beef is the % taken out of tips. Tips are few and far between and like any job, I want my tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DominoDiva View Post
    Imlives traffic isnt good enough from what i hear of hosts on there for a 30% payout (mine personally is ok, sometimes really slow but im on it 8 hours with a couple hour break between.), MFC has more traffic in my opinion, and they give 50%, what about that? hmm

    AND MFC absorb chargebacks,

    Plus ive heard on a forum that a freind of a host paid for credits, wen to prvt with her, it came back to her as a chargeback, he never chargebecked and showed her his bank statements to prove he didnt chargeback. dunno if this story was true but if so, ImLive are skimmng too.

    i do still however like ImLives set out ive learnt how to get round the chargebacks and mine aint so bad now, plus Free video chat is optional which i love.

    xx
    I find some chargebacks to be questionable. I know of 1 chargeback in particular that should not have been...There is another forum, I forgot the name, but someone on there was discussing how they too had a friend pay for a show, just to test it out, and it became a chargeback. When the girl went on the forum to vent to her fellow coworkers, the main customer service rep for the site (wont name her name) went on there to try and defend something that was obviously not an isolated incident. Now here we are on this site, again venting, and someone is defending them ...funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DominoDiva View Post
    well in genral, a tip should be a tip, at least MFC is 50%

    im not saying ImLive is the only one to take a % of your tips, just saying its wrong, thats all.

    what i said above goes to any site when discussing about tips.
    50% still sucks but hey, it's alot better than taking a whopping 70%. I don't mind the sites taking a percentage of things, but some sites are noticeably more fair than others. Imlives reputation for greed is infamous, and everyone knows it!

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    Not to be a bitch, but if you want to keep all of your tips online, learn how to administrate, program and maintain your own websites (and then MARKET that site) open a merchant account and be 100% independent.

    Yes, 65% plus is a lot for a site to keep, however they do much more work behind the scenes than many are aware of.

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    I don't even consider that to be a bitchy statement, because it's the truth. I and alot of people are fully aware of all the behind the scenes work, promotions, and money being dished out for traffic, but that was not my dispute. My dispute is it sucks to see that soomeone has left a pretty good tip for a job well done, and I have to share that tip. The customers who decide to leave a $20 tip because wow this girl is great, gets pissed off as well knowing that she did not get that tip. I don't see how I could possibly be wrong for wanting my tip. If I want, I can opt out of getting tips all together, but choose to go ahead and take whatever I can get. I know I am not alone when I say it sucks to see them take a huge chunk out of tips. I am not talking about the general % taken out of performing my shows. I am only speaking about tips here.

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    Default Re: Imlive is wrong for keeping 65 to 75% of tips!

    I see what you're saying but most adult industry companies, whether it's online OR offline see your "tips" as just general income.

    For example, did you know at the Bunny Ranch in NV they take 50% of not just your agreed upon hourly rate but ALL your tips as well? Even the cash value of gifts.

    I can see how someone would say that it sucks, but until the adult industry is regulated a bit more by general business organizations, this is how it is (unless you work in a strip club).

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