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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    ^^^ I think asking "why" depends on how you ask. You are using a question to engage them in a conversation.

    Sometimes if a customer seems to really not be interested in me I know its because of how I look. I can say something like "Why? Am I not your type? You can tell me." then flirt (smile, wink) a bit more. If they say you aren't their type or whatever, that's cool. The next question though should be "What is your type? Is there a girl here you like?". If he can tell me who he likes I'll go get the girl and send her over to him. The advantage of that is the customer gets what he wants, and its good karma - many dancers will return the favour once they've seen this tactic used.
    I think asking "Why" is good if you follow it up with something like " did another another girl give you a bad dance? Because I am definatly not like the other girls and I know we will have fun together..." or " let me give you something to have naughty dreams to for the next month!"

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    ^^^ Yes, or it could be that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Technician View Post
    I think asking "Why" is good if you follow it up with something like " did another another girl give you a bad dance? Because I am definatly not like the other girls and I know we will have fun together..." or " let me give you something to have naughty dreams to for the next month!"
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    ^OOh i like that too definitely would love to learn some lines how to be more assertive/pushy ish rather than nice..I think i'm way too nice sometimes, but not good at pulling off bitchy either =/

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    ^^^^ It's a fine line to tread, and most of us (I think it's safe to say) are not gymnasts or tight-rope walkers...
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    I'm naturally very sweet & timid so it takes a lot for me to be assertive at all (and thus to do this job).

    So when I've tried being pushy I think it comes off fake. Plus there are enough pushy girls at my job that being a little on the sweeter/more understanding/caring side is refreshing to some customers. These guys complain to me about girls who "wouldn't leave them alone" or were very "high pressure" last time they came in who they now try to avoid. I want customers to feel at ease w/ me & come in again to see me. There are just so few good, paying customers coming in nowadays that I don't wanna scare em off to another club or dancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine16 View Post
    Oh i'm definitely not that nice haha, maybe I just need better lines I usually go with 'cmon lets go have some fun' wink wink smile head nod lol. So i tell him, not ask. But still get a lot of 'well maybe in a little bit' blahh.
    Try adding on a reason. When I go in for the kill I usually say something like, "Let's go do some dances because I just had a red bull/shot/got off stage/am having a wonderful day/whatever and I want to use some of this energy on you!" Or I say "because I'd like a little more privacy with you." Whatever floats your boat and fits the situation. Adding on "because" blah blah blah really seems to help me get more dances. It creates a sense of urgency with guys that are on the fence or who want to wait a bit and even if a guy says no it's more likely to be a total no which helps me out because I know not to waste any more time on him. I also like to lean in, put a hand on their leg or shoulder, and make eye contact with a smile. It really is all an effective combo, I swear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    Try adding on a reason. When I go in for the kill I usually say something like, "Let's go do some dances because I just had a red bull/shot/got off stage/am having a wonderful day/whatever and I want to use some of this energy on you!" Or I say "because I'd like a little more privacy with you." Whatever floats your boat and fits the situation. Adding on "because" blah blah blah really seems to help me get more dances. It creates a sense of urgency with guys that are on the fence or who want to wait a bit and even if a guy says no it's more likely to be a total no which helps me out because I know not to waste any more time on him. I also like to lean in, put a hand on their leg or shoulder, and make eye contact with a smile. It really is all an effective combo, I swear.
    Ooh I'm going to try that tomorrow thank you!!! I haven't tried adding the reason why yet, that will be my test for this week! You guys are awesome!

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    ^ Me being my dorky self putting that in my strippeh notebook of super things (lol) , I can totally picture some idiots responding "well i know what to do with that energy" or something stupid like that, my initial response would be 'but we can have soo much fun right now' ..but never really know what to say to guys that start saying things like that, or the ones that say "i dont get dances its just a tease" ..just want to have it in the back of my head just in case they pull the 'lets have sex instead' type thing lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    Try adding on a reason. When I go in for the kill I usually say something like, "Let's go do some dances because I just had a red bull/shot/got off stage/am having a wonderful day/whatever and I want to use some of this energy on you!" Or I say "because I'd like a little more privacy with you." Whatever floats your boat and fits the situation. Adding on "because" blah blah blah really seems to help me get more dances. It creates a sense of urgency with guys that are on the fence or who want to wait a bit and even if a guy says no it's more likely to be a total no which helps me out because I know not to waste any more time on him. I also like to lean in, put a hand on their leg or shoulder, and make eye contact with a smile. It really is all an effective combo, I swear.
    What about "'Cause you only live once!" ? Or is that as cheesy as I think it is?

    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine16 View Post
    ^ Me being my dorky self putting that in my strippeh notebook of super things (lol) , I can totally picture some idiots responding "well i know what to do with that energy" or something stupid like that, my initial response would be 'but we can have soo much fun right now' ..but never really know what to say to guys that start saying things like that, or the ones that say "i dont get dances its just a tease" ..just want to have it in the back of my head just in case they pull the 'lets have sex instead' type thing lol.
    OMG. Me too. I'm always afraid that if I say anything too ambiguous that guys will try to twist it anyway they can to get a sexual favor out of it.
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    Default Re: Make more $ being nice or pushy?

    Pushy. It's not even debatable.




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    Depends on the customer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure View Post
    Depends on the customer
    I agree with this. I think sometimes you have to slow play it. Meaning, don't immediately ask for a dance, just talk to him for a while and build a rapport, then go in for maybe one dance, but ultimately I am trying to sell an hour or more in VIP. I see many many dancers approaching a guy, doing a dance, and leaving. I can sit with that same guy for thirty minutes talking, then go immediately to VIP. The trick is knowing which guys will do this, and that only comes from experience. I can look at a guy and just tell if he is going to go to VIP. I'm just not a dance dance dance type of stripper I guess....
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    Oh, and if a guy says something along the lines of he's not interested (for whatever reason) I gracefully walk away. I'll say something like, "Oh ok, well have a fun night!" and smile and walk away. Usually though, the guy ends up asking me for a dance after I talk to him for a few minutes.
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    I think with the right custys, being pushy can really work, as long as you aren't so aggressive you look desperate (I had that problem when i first started!). Desperation is never sexy to guys, unless they're looking for a girl they think will do cheap extras! But like it was already mentioned, it really depends on the customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa111 View Post
    I think with the right custys, being pushy can really work, as long as you aren't so aggressive you look desperate (I had that problem when i first started!). Desperation is never sexy to guys, unless they're looking for a girl they think will do cheap extras! But like it was already mentioned, it really depends on the customer.
    I think I'm having the same problem. Most often I'm definitely nicer, sometimes too nice I think-which I'm trying to be more aggressive/pushy, but I think I come off as too sales-ish and desperate. Are there certain ways or lines you use to bring everything back to selling dances/VIP without being too aggressive, but aggressive enough? I know a few girls say top earners don't take no for an answer-but not sure how without being too pushy?

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    I feel like sometimes you can never tell if they want you to 1) sit with them for a few minutes before, being nice and sweet before asking, or 2) staying only a few seconds before suggesting it strongly. Some guys need time, some guys want to be pushed. hard for me to tell, unfortunately.

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    ^Me too! People say it takes experience, but, I don't see how one day I'll just be like 'OK, this one needs time' or whatever lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine16 View Post
    I think I'm having the same problem. Most often I'm definitely nicer, sometimes too nice I think-which I'm trying to be more aggressive/pushy, but I think I come off as too sales-ish and desperate. Are there certain ways or lines you use to bring everything back to selling dances/VIP without being too aggressive, but aggressive enough? I know a few girls say top earners don't take no for an answer-but not sure how without being too pushy?
    I usually just try to lead a lot of what they say back to going to the vip. I try not to spend tooooo much time on small talk, (unless i get a feeling they are a "talker" that will spend ,or it's very slow), because then they put me in the "friend zone" and think of me as a cool girl they wanna date, not buy dances from or tip-bad!

    Example:Him- "Man it's dead in here where are all the guys??"
    Me- "Ooooh well thats lucky for you! Not only do u get all the attention, but the back rooms are totally empty..'wink wink' "

    Him- " So do u have a man?"
    Me- "Yeah..but he's not here to see us go in the back so u don't have to worry 'smile' "

    Hope i helped a little! Basically I just try to keep the convo sexy light and fun while talking up the dances. I used to just be like "you wanna dance? why not? are u sure? youre missing out...? " etc etc. And that just sounds like begging, but it was a hard habit to get out of when i first started, so i understand where you're coming from! Just takes practice

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    ^Thank you alexa! (funny, my childhood best friend was alexa lol, dont hear that name often) I'm totally up for practicing- but I dont know WHAT i'm practicing haha..I never do the 'wanna dance' thing, usually either 'cmon lets go have some fun' wink smile head nod lol, lately ive been trying 'lets go do some dances because id like some privacy with you' head nod smile lol. I'm also always caught up whether to say i'm taken or not (im not) but i know if you say youre single, they want to date you..you say youre taken, they lose interest..ah lol. And I think that IS my problem-too much small talk and I think thats why I get asked out way too much, I dont want to push the sell too fast though, and sometimes dont know how to ask either..i'm learning/trying though! I'm taking dancerwealth too, and push the hot buttons etc, but especially since its been really really slow at both my clubs lately I really need to close more guys more often, very frustrating especially since I'm trying so hard! Maybe too hard

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    I am usually super sweet but it bites me in the ass sometimes. Scratch that... lots of times.

    Guys always think that b/c I am sweet I'm also a pushover, and that they can touch me inappropriately. I get a lot of "please? but you're so much nicer than the other girls... blah blah blah." It's gross. And then when it's their third awkward lunge towards my tits and I actually raise my voice, they get so offended like I'M the one doing something wrong. Anybody else get that? I work in a SC to sell a fantasy, not blowjobs. Sigh.

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    ^Oh same here. Only I WISH they asked haha..I get that, plus being asked out 300 times a day, dealing with licking and attempting to finger me..I've gotten really really good at kung fu strippeh when they go for the boobies though Pretty much I've gotten to be a really good kung fu strippeh in general..except for the licking, sometimes don't see it coming, and the other day this asswipe started licking/kissing my ARM..like wtf? I'm going to work on less small talk because I think the problem is getting put in the friend/cool zone and then get asked out ick. But I also want to learn how to be pushier without seeming sales ish..such a fine line :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine16 View Post
    ^Oh same here. Only I WISH they asked haha..I get that, plus being asked out 300 times a day, dealing with licking and attempting to finger me..I've gotten really really good at kung fu strippeh when they go for the boobies though Pretty much I've gotten to be a really good kung fu strippeh in general..except for the licking, sometimes don't see it coming, and the other day this asswipe started licking/kissing my ARM..like wtf? I'm going to work on less small talk because I think the problem is getting put in the friend/cool zone and then get asked out ick. But I also want to learn how to be pushier without seeming sales ish..such a fine line :/
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    Honestly? I make more asserting what I want, than being sweet as pie.

    Sweet isn't something I have ever done well. You'd be surprised how responsive guys are when you are firm with them.

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    Some men like to be treated as friends, others prefer a shy/sweet girl, while there are also those who like to be bossed around. It usually takes just a couple of minutes to read a customer and adjust my 'game' accordingly.
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