




Because if they are here, they need to speak English. I don't care what race, speak ENGLISH. Why is that hard for you to understand? That doesn't make me a racist.





Fine, I'm a racist because I don't want illegals here, no matter the race. Incidentally, the Illinois Minutemen Militia (probably a racist organization according to you) is getting powerful here and most of the head people are Mexican, so I guess that makes them racist too. I am not against any race, just come here LEGALLY.





How do you stop Illegal immigration?
One year in prison for each illegal immigrant working for a corporation, to be served by the CEO and Board of Directors.
Repeal the 14th Amendment or make a revision. Its not 1866 anymore.
Build the Fence.
Require that 51% of any Real property or Corporation is owned by an American Citizen.
Federal Law stating English is the official language. This has been debated before in American history and luckily for Great Britain we didn't choose Deutsch.



I have to say that I aree with Kellydancer.





You are so hell-bent on being PC that you can't see the forest for the trees. You won't admit you're wrong, so arguing with you is pointless, so I'll just ask you...how would YOU stop the inflow of illegal aliens from Mexico?
So far, you said you'd go after those that employ them. I'm good with that. Is that all you've got? What sort of onus do you put on employers? Is a SSN good enough? How about a green card or visa? Because all of those things can easily be forged. Now we have a whole crop of illegals with forged credentials who are working. What then?
Wait, maybe it's racist to ask these people to prove to employers that they're legal! Is that the next arrow in your ridiculous quiver?
If you are going to put a "those can be forged" restriction on any solution i bring up then this law and any other law is just as meaningless as anything i would come up with isn't it? Yes, shit can forged, if someone wants it bad enough. Wanting laws to be applicable to people of all races is not just "being PC".
Dude, stop cheapening that word. You're fucking it up for people who have real racial problems.
If hordes of poor, white trash Canadians started flooding the border, leaching the social welfare system and working off the books was happening in Minnesota, I'd want that stopped too. I'd support stopping people who say "eh" and "aboot" and asking them for their papers.
People like you allow REAL racism to happen because you just throw the word around when it's not really happening. You cheapen and make people tired of it. You're like Al Sharpton with Tawana Brawley, or the Duke lacrosse team rape accuser.



This is so simple, yet being blown way out of proportion. . I'm lost just reading thru all the posts,er,arguments.
It's not about race. If a white police office pulls over the car of a white person who can't speak English but appears capable of speaking great German...and that person has no ID and can't prove their citizenship, they're in trouble.
There, I win. I will answer no more questions about "race" as your race-baiting has just been proven false.
Now tell me what you'd do to solve the illegal alien problem. This is the second time I've asked.
Holy shit, i really don't know how to talk to someone who thinks the situation you just described is not racist. You are describing EXACTLY what makes this law racist and you are so god damn blind you can't even see it. Treating people different because of their skin color or because they speak another language is the problem with that law, your "win" proves ME right. The sad thing is that in your broken brain using a white person as an example makes it somehow not racist.
There comes a point where it is obvious continuing a line of thought is going no where. People see the world from different perspectives and unfortunately that is just the way it is. There is no changing their minds. Have your say, they'll have their say. Those of us reading have already chosen our sides.







I figured I'd say this because I actually LIVE in AZ, have my entire life, pay taxes here and vote here. (Can I say BTW I think it's hilarious that nearly every single post in this threat thus far has contained incorrect information ie; IDs, SSNs and Birth Certificates as Proof of Citizenship)
I'm actually scared to be out and about in the wrong parts of town because I have a legitimate fear of being pulled over or questioned simply because I'm not white.
... and no I'm not Mexican either.
A person in the state of Arizona can be pulled over solely for the color of their skin.
If that in an of itself is not racist, then what is? Should I have no proof of my citizenship then it is perfectly legal to be held, FOR NO OTHER REASON, than the suspicion of being an Illegal.
I, as a legal resident of this state, find it sad that I have to fear the people that are paid to protect me.
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I lived in Washington DC most of my life, then moved to AZ. I don't see what speaking English has to do with being a citizen.





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