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    Default Freeloader Custies

    I've been in a lot of clubs over a long time, but I must admit that I first learned the term "freeloader" when I started posting on this site.

    I have always held the view that if I pay my cover, buy drinks from the bar and tip the dancers for their dances during the tip walks (which most clubs I visit have), then I have met my minimum obligation. Whether I buy dances, tip for time, etc., is purely a function of whether a girl catches my interest enough to motivate me to do so.

    Am I in the minority here?

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    If we were getting a cut from the drinks you buy, or from the cover you pay, or if we were getting paid an hourly, it'd all be fine.
    I'm glad you at least tip the girls. That's all I ask when I'm on stage. I can't and don't expect everyone to get a dance from me...(that'd just be crazy..lol), but as long as you're tipping the girls I know I at least appreciate that.

    I never understand though why some guys just come in to drink. Why not just go to a regular bar? At least there's not a cover there and the drinks are usually cheaper.

    but yeah, as long as the guys are tipping when we're performing, I appreciate that.

    (hope I'm allowed to respond to this!)

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    She pretty much sums it. We want to sell lapdances, that is how we make out $$$. So many guys say "ive spent way too much at the bar" or "i just came here for a beer." Yeah right! They came in for a free show and are essencially taking up space and for dancers, time is money so if she just sat there and spoke to you for even 4 or 5 minutes, she could be selling dances to other guys. So yeah, at least you tip on stage but a dollar or two doesn't really make much of a difference. Honestly, by how the OP you do sound like a freeloader. The kind of guy that says after speaking with you for a while, "when do you go on stage?" I hate that question cause then i go up and he still doesn't come over to tip. As if that is gonna make me real $$$. GRR. Or when they sit away from the tiprail, watch, and not ever so much as gets up off his lazy fat ass to tip the girls on stage. I don't care if *I* don't get a dance off a guy but if doesn't get anything from any girl, that is a freeloader and trust me the girls talk and we will tell them not to bother with so&so at the bar cause he's not buying dances. So pretty much you're wasting your night and our TIME. Don't come to a strip club broke and only to buy drinks and maybe tip a dollar. It's a waste of time. If you "just want a drink" then go to a fucking bar.

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    I don't go to strip clubs to tip at the stage, I go to see a girl that I am interested in buying dances from-usually a regular of mine. If I do happen to check out a new club while I'm traveling I go with the intent of sampling the local talent and that also generally means buying an LD or two. That being said, as long as you do tip during tip walks or tip if you watch the stage shows then no, in my book you are not a freeloader. A freeloader is a guy who wastes the dancer's time either by trying to chat them up for free or by leading them on about the possibility of buying dances.

    Honestly, I doubt that many dancers will see it the same way since the private dance is how they earn the vast majority of their living in most clubs. I wouldn't expect to get crap from a dancer about not buying any dances in the club (though I have witnessed it) but on this site I think it's a different story. What a girl will say to you in the club is often far different from what she is thinking and, in here, we usually get to hear what they are thinking.

    FWIW, there are many phrases that I have never actually heard inside a strip club in 25 years that are in fairly common use here on this site by both dancers and customers.
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    Why would I care if the girls I don't buy dances from think I'm a 'freeloader'? Seriously, who gives a shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Avery_ View Post
    I never understand though why some guys just come in to drink. Why not just go to a regular bar? At least there's not a cover there and the drinks are usually cheaper.
    Because they are lying. Guys go to strip clubs to see naked women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel1228 View Post
    I don't care if *I* don't get a dance off a guy but if doesn't get anything from any girl, that is a freeloader and trust me the girls talk and we will tell them not to bother with so&so at the bar cause he's not buying dances. So pretty much you're wasting your night and our TIME. Don't come to a strip club broke and only to buy drinks and maybe tip a dollar. It's a waste of time. If you "just want a drink" then go to a fucking bar.

    *end rant

    Most of the clubs I go to have tip walks and I tip something to everyone that has danced, but don't often buy dances and some nights cannot find anyone interesting enough to tip for time. If you dance in South Carolina you are probably doubly cursed in that they don't do tip walks - at least in Greenville - and lots of broke guys go to the clubs, especially during happy hours and all night Monday when the Greenville clubs do uber cheap drinks.

    If I let a girl sit with me then I will tip her something for her time, but if I'm not interested in someone I will just let her know that dances aren't really my gig. No problem most of the time, but a few girls over the years have gotten offended when I've told them that.

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    I have no problem being tipped for time instead of dancing... provided I'm being tipped enough to justify staying there and not moving on to hustle. It's relaxing sometimes to have someone tip for conversation... but can be stressful if a guy hands you two dollars and thinks you need to spend an hour with him. I can only loosen up and stop thinking about earning a living from other people if I'm not worried about it.
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    I tip most every girl onstage, regardless of whether I buy dances from her or not. Often I'm finding that I'm the only one doing so nowadays, especially on the slower dayshifts. I don't think of it as an obligation so much as just a small gesture of appreciation to the dancers.

    Paying cover, buying some drinks, and tipping the girls onstage/tip walks is more than many will do. Buying dances just sweetens the deal.
    IMHO, anyone who sits on their ass, nursing their one beer after using their "get in free" coupon, and never spends a cent on anyone except themselves, deserves to be bounced.

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    Default Re: Freeloader Custies

    I never go to the club unless I intend on spending money on dances. Once I'm tapped out, I leave. System works for me just fine.

    Time is money. If I'm eating up a girl's time while knowing I have no intention of spending any money on her, I can't help but feel I'm stealing from her.

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    You are not a freeloader. You tip the girls. Cover and drink prices don't matter to strippers, we don't exactly receive profit sharing.

    Point is..if you're coming into the titty bar and looking at the girls dancing on stage, it is polite and customary to tip.

    If you don't want to get harrassed, hang out at the bar. If you don't see anyone there worthy of even a few bucks onstage tip, then leave and go elsewhere.

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    I don't tip the dancers on stage as much as I used to. Times are tougher now and if I tip the dancers on stage they're on my ass for dances when they get off stage and sometimes they get huffy when I tell them I'm waiting for so and so. If I know the dancer or if the dancer puts on a great show, then I'll tip her. Otherwise, I don't tip to avoid being hassled.
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    I thought you meant "freeloader custies" as those lame dudes that try to stare down your girl while you are getting a lapdance out on the floor. Man, I really hate that. Just get that perve vibe.

    Personally, I really don't see the point in going to a SC, paying a cover, buying some drinks, but then only spending a few $$ on stage or walk tips. I don't even go to clubs that don't have LD or VIP. No fun at all.
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    Ooh that sounds creepy. I've never noticed that because I try to look at the person I'm dancing for, but I bet it happens... eek!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS_Stevia View Post
    You are not a freeloader. You tip the girls. Cover and drink prices don't matter to strippers, we don't exactly receive profit sharing.
    By my definition I would agree, but I have also heard the "If you don't buy dances then why are you here?" line a few times over the years.

    Of course I could answer with the truth, which is, "I'm here to combine heavy amounts of alcohol with a lot of naked girl viewing, if I like one of the naked girls tip for her time and, if the tide is right tonight, do some ridiculous things later with one lucky contestant!"

    But I suspect that answer would be go over even worse than the one I do give, which is "I'm not sure yet."
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot View Post
    Why would I care if the girls I don't buy dances from think I'm a 'freeloader'? Seriously, who gives a shit?
    Yep.

    And what the OP said is true. If you're tipping at the stage, you've met a minimum requirement to not be a freeloader...but WGAF anyway if you are?

    That said, if you go to a SC with just beer money, you're a loser. At least tip on stage, at the minimum.

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    Yes. Not tipping anyone is the same as stiffing your waitress who makes 3 dollars an hour or your busy bartender who is running around trying to fill drink orders. Except dancers aren't paid anything to be there, in fact they PAY to work. So yes, tip generously.
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    I never sit by the stage as my purpose for being there is to get LDs or VIPs, and my experience is you don't get approached for either sitting at the stage. I will absolutely tip a dancer on stage (and generously too), if I want her to come find me for dances after her stage set is up. I might also tip a dancer who does an exceptionally entertaining stage set, but usually I'm in pretty big clubs and I'm seated away from the stages, so it makes little sense to me to constantly trek back and forth to the stage to slip a buck to a dancer I really don't want to see later.

    I don't consider this freeloading at all as I DO buy dances, but only if I want to. Plus, I figure the club is getting about a 5000% profit on the $5 I paid for 8 ounces of diet coke. I live in "wanna dance" land of Az, so in any given visit I say no thanks many, many more times than I say yes. I've had a few dancers give me shit about not getting a dance from them, which I have little patience for. If I say no, it's simply a matter of customer preference.

    But once I say yes to those I like, then the twenties start flowing.

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    On the flipside of tipping... buying dances>tipping. Always.

    At the end of the night I see way more of my dance money than the few dollars I make on stage.
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    When I go to my local SC I usually order something to eat while watching the dancers on stage and usually tip everyone of them. Then after I've finished eating I go back to VIP with the dancer of my choice and spend whatever funds I have allotted for the evening.

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    Most dancers consider a freeloader to be a guy that won't get dances from them. I'm not saying that to be a jerk. It is merely an observation that a percentage of dancers will get bent out of shape if they invest time in a guy and are told no a number of times.
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    Can't say I've ever been to a SC without the intention of buying LDs or VIPs, but on occasion I may take a while to find the right dancer for my mood. After sitting at a table for a while, deflecting numerous Wannadances, the visits from opportunistic ladies become fewer and fewer. That seems to be the appropriate response to "freeloading". Not every custy will immediately find the right dancer for upclose and personal contact. But, if I were a dancer, I'd solicit each customer once.... there are shy guys just sitting there ready to buy 5-6 dances and you'll never know if you don't ask. One time, a dancer stopped by me while I was hoping to find my regular (at that time). I told her so and she volunteered to look for her. Then she reported back that my fav was not working. I bought a dance from this girl as a thank you, then continued buying dances from her. To date, I've probably bought around 100 from her.

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    I should not be parsimonious with tipping the stage performers; and that's even more so if I'm being picky about bigger-ticket items that day. I'm sure most of the dancers know not everybody can be or pretend to be a big-spending whale, but to make a repeated habit of merely taking in the view w/o dropping some cash for it is just cheap.

    Like they say of gambling and the stock market (what was the difference, again? ), don't go in if you can't afford to part with the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by RBurgundy View Post
    Personally, I really don't see the point in going to a SC, paying a cover, buying some drinks, but then only spending a few $$ on stage or walk tips. I don't even go to clubs that don't have LD or VIP. No fun at all.
    Heh... Note aside: I OTOH get to seasonally make repeated visits to Washington DC, where by law there's no lapdancing/VIP at all, on the bright side it also means usually no cover. But I adapt and actually have enjoyed it. Everyone's got his own tastes, preferences and strategies.

    (and yeah, staring at some other stranger's lap dance... well... boy can that make everyone involved quite uneasy!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeUnCool View Post
    Most dancers consider a freeloader to be a guy that won't get dances from them. I'm not saying that to be a jerk. It is merely an observation that a percentage of dancers will get bent out of shape if they invest time in a guy and are told no a number of times.
    Thats kind of odd, don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzz View Post
    Thats kind of odd, don't you think?

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