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    I try not to get too upset about it when you see that a dancer is "stepping on your toes" by sitting with a customer you've already begun to work. But while it is annoying, there have been plenty of times when I've settled down with a customer only to find out they came in to see another girl or were sitting with someone else before you sat down. It's not always easy to tell the difference between an empty chair and an empty chair that someone is planning on coming back to.

    In fact, on a number of occasions I've had my feathers ruffled when another girl came and sat down next to "my" customer in the empty chair on his other side- until I discovered too late that they had been working him before I came along.

    So on that note, how do you determine whether or not a customer has already been spoken for?

    And perhaps more importantly, how do you keep unintentional poaching from happening to yourself?

    The most consistent method I've found is to either look to see whether or not there is a drink on the bar next to said customer. Conversely I always try to leave a drink behind with my customer when I have to go up on stage or otherwise step away for a moment.

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    Just ask if he is sitting with someone, or if he wants you to join him. He should say if he's available or not. If he doesn't, at least you tried if the girl comes over or says something to you later. If she comes back over, make it fun and flirty like "ohh now you have 2 girls to have fun with!"
    Never leave your drink with a customer.. Unless you are planning to not drink from it again.

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    I don't get this dancer etiquette crapola. This happens all the time at my club. Ultimately the customer is going to spend his time and money on the girl he likes most, not the one who sat down first.

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    Default Re: I was here first!

    Just ask.

    Exactly what ViolaStrings mentioned.

    If I'm talking to a guy and there is no mention of "I'm waiting for someone" then to me they are fair game.




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    I can't stand this sort of thing! Always drove me nuts! I never sat with a guy that already had a girl sitting there, but if he ASKS me to sit with him while she is on stage, then tough noogies. I'm sitting my ass there! I also never got peeved at other girls who sat with my customers though. If he wants her to sit with him instead of me, then he probably wasn't going to buy a dance from me anyway. I would always stroll by after my stage show if this happened and if they wanted us both to sit there, the guy would just ask me to sit or say Welcome back or something to that effect. I've had guys grab me as I walk buy, then some girl come up and start screaming at me over it in a few minutes. Pure stupidity and trashiness imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christyismyalias View Post
    Never leave your drink with a customer.. Unless you are planning to not drink from it again.
    Thank you, this is a very good point that I'd forgotten about. Usually I'll only order a drink for the express reason of leaving it as a prop, as I almost never drink at work. Other times it is a soda (sprite and grenadine! <3) that I've left as mostly just melted ice, but I'm sure I've taken a sip upon returning more than once, so I'll have make sure to keep this in mind from now on!

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    Nobody owns a customer! If he tells you he wants to get a dance with someone else be professional smile and say let me know when you are ready for me and move on.

    I am going to start asking every guy if he wants company right off the bat. Lets face it there are some super scummy custies who will try to get as many girls to talk to him for free as possible.

    I get mad at the custy if he does not tell me that he is waiting for some one. I make it clear to the the scummy custy and the girl by saying "i'm sorry HE did not tell me he was waiting for someone". The tone of my voice lets the scummy custy know that I am pissed at him for wasting my time.

    Never blame it on the girl. It's not her fault the guy is a scumbag who has no respect or knowledge of proper business etiquette. If I had a custy who disrespected another girl by wasting her time I would tell him that wasting other peoples time is not right so he would not do it again. However there are some unprofessional scummy girls who act desperate and won't take no for an answer. In that case the stupid skank deserves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harlequinn View Post

    In fact, on a number of occasions I've had my feathers ruffled when another girl came and sat down next to "my" customer in the empty chair on his other side- until I discovered too late that they had been working him before I came along.
    Dancers will leave their drinks, purses, shoes etc. to cock-block. If a dancer is getting up for a second I can see this. But if they need to go fix their hair or smoke pot this is unacceptable.

    If you happen to see no one is talking to a customer them just ask: Are you waiting for someone?

    If a dancer plops down in the middle of you talking to a customer it's usually because she couldn't close the sale with him or any one else.

    Just ask her to come back later unless the guy says he wants her there.

    Girls don't own customers and a custy will say "I'm waiting" for so and so.

    Otherwise they are fair game.




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    Default Re: I was here first!

    I ask before i sit down if they havent came to see anyone else then it's all fair game

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    Has anyone worked in a club where bouncers will send in "one of their bitches" to get them some money? It's a super sleazy tactic that some bouncers who pimp girls out will use. I even worked at a club where there was a manager who did that. I have never seen a positive response to this tactic from a customer. They usually look at the girl like she's crazy and turn to me and say what is happening, who is this and why is she here?

    I just had that happen to me the other night. It was so sleazy the girl just came over and started saying give me some money put it right here. The guy was freaked out and so was I. He actually had to start being so rude and insulting to get her to go away. It was so gross and scary to see that type of desperation. That was the sleaziest I have ever dealt with. I have seen that sort of thing in other clubs, but this was the first time it happened in the club where I work now. Does that sort of thing only happen in Vegas or does it happen in other places? How do you deal with it?

    I think it's so embarrassing because it's so street level and it makes guys really uncomfortable. I don't even know who this girls was. I have never even seen her before. Then they had the nerve to hint to me that I should give her money by trying to get me to feel sorry for her!? I am still so shocked. It was the grossest, sleaziest situation I have ever dealt with. For 5-7 minutes she just kept asking the guy for money (If it was even that long, it just seemed like forever because it was so shocking). She took off her top for like 10 seconds and the guy kept telling her to go away. Then she finally left.
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    Default Re: I was here first!

    I watch customers closely. I pretty much know who has been talking to other dancers & if she's gone on stage or to the bathroom/dressing room.

    I'm old school I guess... but I get irritated when I'm sitting with a customer & another girl who I don't know sits down on the other side of him. This used to never happen, but now there are tons of new dancers who don't know dancer etiquette. When I started dancing doing something like that would have resulted in the offending dancer getting beat up in the dressing room.

    I agree, no dancer "owns" a customer - but its rude & breaks up the conversation when a second dancer sits down at a table with a customer who is already attended to. Even when I have a regular who is talking to another dancer I don't just go over to him - I wait until he finishes his conversation. If he tries to signal me over I let him know that he needs to come to me, because I don't want to screw up another girl's hustle.
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    Default Re: I was here first!

    The worst is when a girl tries to poach a customer by sitting next to you so that you are between her and the customer. It sends the impression to the custy that you're friends with the girl, and the girl plays it off as such, and then five minutes later asks him for a dance.

    I would rather a girl outright poach than pull that!

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    Wow so it's not just stupid girls who are getting pimped that pull that crap. The joke was on her anyhow because the guy did not want her there and she finally took the hint and left. I think that any girls who pull that should be fired because it really is unprofessional. I wonder if I should tell the manager or if I should just wait and see if that happens again. I work in a really nice club and I have never seen that happen in the entire year that I have been there. I was so freaked out. It made me think that maybe my club is going down the route of becoming sleazy. I have never seen that girl before. Maybe she will try that on someone else and get fired? Maybe it was just a fluke?
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    ^^^ You can tell her directly incase she's new & doesn't know, or tell the manager so that if she does it again he already knows that she's making a habit of it.
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