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Congrats! I've always wanted to try and be the girl with an attitude, but I can't seem to pull it off. I always resort back to acting ditzy/bubbly.
Congrats on your good night though!!!





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Yes letting my natural bitch put has worked wonders for me Lol. I def make more money with a little attitude. I used to be "too nice" too, and it's true, every guy wants to date you but no guy wants to spend serious cash if you're too sweet!
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Kitty,
Be the daddy's little princess/spoiled little 'rich girl'. The bratty type. Play up your young looks with wide-eyed expressions, well-timed pouts, precociousness..and just demand things as if they're just going to happen. If they don't with a particular guy, shrug it off, smile sweetly and move on to the next.
I often have a youthful appearance unless I purposefully choose dark makeup and edgy clothing to look more vampish but when I just play up my youthful 'image', I tend to attract the knights, subs, and daddy types who want to fulfill every spoiled request just to make me smile and not pout. It can look a tad bit disturbing from the outside looking in if you think about it for too long, and if you act too young as opposed to simply selfish you can destroy the mood and make guys uncomfortable.
So you have to find the right measure of womanly sensuality and breezy girlishness. But once you hone and perfect it, you could make a nice bundle of $$$$$$$$$$! Think...hmm..Scarlett O' Hara, Evan Rachel Wood in Pretty Persuasion, Alicia Silverstone in Clueless, Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffanys, etc...
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Has anyone ever thought about doing a domination training? Lately I've been thinking I'd really like to get trained as a dominatrix. It'd be a skill you can use at the club when needed, and you could probably BANK off of it.
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Your friend is right. They want the bitches! The girls that make the most at my club tell them what to do and they do it. I am too nice but when I do get in bitchy mode I make way more moneyIt is kinda fun being that way though!




The other night I was exhausted and this happened to me. Three guys even. Luckily two of them spent money.tell me how young I look, followed by "your so sweet, your too nice" blah blah bs. Most men that take a liking to me usually want to marry me
You can't be on ALL THE TIME.
But you and the other dancer are correct. The more unattainable you seem, the more money guys will spend.![]()



Maybe I should try this out. I play the nice girl all the time and I think it gives the guys the idea that they still have control because nice = doormat in their heads.





I look really young too, and am sort of naturally an asshole; one could never describe me as "sweet", and I definitely think that lends an edge when it comes to working. Acting aloof also works wonders. Just act like the dude isn't important to you at all and is sort of boring. I always try to make it known that I'm way smarter and more important than him.
You know who has this "bitchy" and persuasive thing down do a science is J.D. I've seen that girl work and it cracks me up. PM her for advice. I've been dancing eight and a half years and that girl blows me away.
Yep, I work down south but I'm from NY and I play that up to a tee. These southern guys are used to the southern belles in the club being all sweet but I come up with my cocky attitude and my aggressiveness and they eat it up. I thought I'd have to change my attitude working down here but it's really helped me make a lot of money. Be a bitch, act like your the shit, and tell them what to do. Sometimes I'll tell them I'm from NY just so they know.LOL.


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^^ Can you be more specific? I can write out my basic conversation script, but it seriously deviates from customer to customer. On the difficult ones I generally just throw around my flashy vocabulary and tell them I know they want to see me naked, because if they didn't they'd be ridiculous.

Is it weird that I play up the nice girl thing and it does really well for me? The customers usually tell me that it's surprising to find a sweet girl like me in a strip club, but they almost always spend, and I have a LOT of regulars.
To me it just seems like everyone's into something different, and some guys don't respond well to the 'bitchy' types. I also honestly don't think I could pull off the bitchy attitude.
There is a book out there titled "Why Men Love Bitches" (or something similar) that is supposed to be a good read. It's been mentioned in Hustle Hut before I believe.
The bitchy thing doesn't work for me, I find that alot of guys get too "intimidated" by me if I try to be edgy at all with my approach. Maybe I am just doing it wrong....it seems to work for alot of girls.


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i completely agree with london. with certain guys i'm not a full out bitch but i definitely play 'spoil daddy's girl' and that pretty much entails being demanding and pouting (something i've always been really good at) and it seems like guys love it. i made pretty shitty money when i first started dancing because i was too nice but i can't play nice anymore-i tried for an hour or so one night and i just felt uncomfortable and not confident. i have different levels of bitch but rarely am i completely sweet or can i fake it (if i am nice/sweet it's genuine). i have a hard time biting my tongue and at any other 'normal' job you have to, but with stripping i really don't give a fuck and i haven't seen it affect my money...only help.



lol this whole hustlin philosophy makes a lot of sense and it also jives in line with the book why men love bitches from doormat to dreamgirl...apparintly the "men love bitches" thing works outside the stripclub too!
For what works for me, is when I noticed a guy is usually an asshole/snob/lots of ego, i treat him like that back, and act I am better than him but at the same time give some of my attention and "Ï" try to take control of the conversation. I tried getting one guy into a vip whom was a snob and kept saying no lets just chat here, and he kept saying no and slapping my ass, so i slapped him back on his face and bam we go. Another I talked to for 20mins or so, he said no to a LD, so I tell him he just cant make his mind and is cheap, so I walk away and he goes after and buys a few.
Another night, when I was in a nice mood , not even husslting go up to a guy and be all friendly and nice, talk to him and later he got a dance saying how sweet i was and didnt pressure him. So I play it like that and it works, usually if it drags on i usually grab their hand and make the choice for them and they follow, if it doesnt then i try later or bye bye




bitchy works best if it's natural. like, just a sense of entitlement. it doesn't have to actually be natural, but it has to seem natural.
if you're a nice girl being bitchy, they don't like that. it's totally different. an entitled girl is way different from a pissed off girl.
and the thing is, plenty of guys love nice girls. unfortunately, those guys are almost always incredibly cheap. the ones who value what they get are the more submissive ones. a dominant guy only gets what he wants if you leave right now to blow him in the parking lot for free. a sub is more likely to get his kicks off of handing you cash and getting slapped and insulted.
it's the same with dating. treat a guy great and there's a good chance he'll cheat on you and dump you for somebody else. treat a guy like shit, and if he sticks around past the first time you do, it's because he likes it. he might bitch and moan to his friends about it, but he loves every second of it.
dudes are fucking crazy.
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Last edited by Optimist; 06-28-2010 at 05:32 PM.
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I definitely need some help being the entitled, bitchy one. I'm way too nice..but when I try to be bitchy, I think I come off as too aggressive (if thats possible for me, hah) and money hungry even though I'm not trying to be..any scripts/videos of voice tone, ANYTHING would be so incredibly helpful lol.


I was the nice/chatty girl for a couple years and made good money doing it! However, my patience has really run out. I can only be nice and chatty with the guys who are generous, respectful of my time, and genuinely likeable (i.e. just a few of my regulars). With the rest of them, over the last four or five months, I've turned into a the polar opposite of the nice girl and I realize, it doesn't really make a difference to them! I'll ask them for tips, tell them I don't feel like talking to them, tell them to stop being so annoying, etc. I used to think doing that would make me lose regulars, but it actually helps maintain my sanity and doesn't hurt my money. (Just don't do it to the really good customers.)
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i think its all about being assertive, anyone who is more assertive will make more money in sales and even in general life. the money is there you just got to want it badly enough to go get it
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