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    3 on 1 for a 3 guy DP????? wow I know rates are getting lower, but only some scam or back alley company would even offer that..or they saw you were new without an agent (i'm assuming correct me if I'm wrong!) and tried taking advantage of that, since some new girls really don't know any better. My friend got talked into doing a boy/girl scene that should've paid at least 700 for like 300 when she was new.
    Anyways, I've said it in other threads, and I'll say it again, do porn because you really want to, don't expect crazy money (some girls make it, usually doesn't last long though), just do it for some extra cash, and find a good agent that will do the negotiatiing for you. Those pix and videos will be out there forever so really think before jumping in! Good luck girl!!

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    ^ Well said alexa.

    This topic has been dicussed already.

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    i recently did a couple scenes in s florida as a total newbie, and got 3x that for a regular b/g with an established company. and i'm a fairly cute white girl, but i'm nothing special. so i'm gonna say that if you get offered so little for something so degrading, it's not even mildly legitimate.

    of course, my agent also told me that i'd have a couple scenes, then no one would want me anymore. everyone i've worked with so far has said that that's total bs and i need to switch agents, so that's what i'm gonna do.
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    Rates have come down but not that far.

    Also, new girls arent commanding high dollar anymore. Established stars are getting more work and higher rates since their names sell more product and attract internet traffic. It use to be that new girls were getting the same if not higher rates but with production down to a minimum most of the companies are shooting stars.

    But it is a great time for new girls if they are willing to be flexible with rate, especially if they are beautiful. There is very little competition right now.

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    Prices may have droppped in the last year or two, but someone was just trying to hose you. 300 for a DP is a rip off in Central America, not just here. You can still find decent pay and have fun (if sex on camera is your thing). Just have to always be aware.

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    I still don't get those that choose to go the "porn" route. 1.) It dosen't pay well. 2.) Your vids end up everywhere. I just feel like porn itself is not Worth it.

    The company I was gonna work for was offering me $800-$1000 for a b/g scene and even then after thinking about everything I was like nope! $300 for 3 one on 1 Dp scene? Ha! I really hope you weren't considering it. Even if I was desperate I'd never do that for such amount. Find a better agent..

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    ^^ Some people cant understand why girls would go the escorting route. 1) Its dangerous..you could end up with a psycho no matter how well you screen 2) you could get an STD since the clients arent tested and condoms dont stop everything 3) you could be arrested(in most places) and that will be on your record forever,etc..'

    We all make our decisions for our own reasons. No reason to put down others choices because you dont understand them. It may not be worth it to you...just like escorting isnt worth it to me...but its obviously not that way for the other person

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    Agreed.

    However only escorts that don't screen get busted.
    Only escorts that don't screen end up with psychos
    As an escort I'm not going to have videos of me anywhere..
    Yes escorting is legal, Prostitution is not :-)

    Oh and...

    If you don't use condoms you get an std right, We were just talking about the porn star that caught HIV in the other thread. So don't tell me only escorts are prone to STDs. Pornstars don't even get fully tested!!! Oh just incase anyone wants to read the "other thread" it's here >>>>>

    Porn is an industry where they tell you "You'll make more money if you don't use a condom". An an escort I protect myself ALWAYS. I'm' not raw dawging anyone HELLO!

    Btw, I meant to say I don't understand why people go the porn route NOT that I don't understand the people that go that route. I have friends that are porn stars. I understand them fully. Just don't understand why porn... they pay isn't worth the drama to me.

    Are escorts better than pornstars? NO. that is not what im saying.
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    personally, i wanted to try porn because i'm 100% comfortable being touched and all that, but i absolutely hate hustling. hate it. i'd way rather fuck a guy on camera in a scene that will exist forever than spend one night in a strip club wondering if i'll manage to even make house back. though, i'm thinking that a lot of that has been the club i was at. but for now, i'm gonna see how porn goes. it's great. having somebody else book the work for me is totally worth paying commission. all these years paying house fee for nothing but being allowed to try to make my own damn money. psh.

    the only thing i don't like so far about porn is when they tell me to just have fun. "fun" for me is putting on a good performance. how fucking "fun" is it for me to fuck up the scene because i don't know what the fuck your weird hand gesture means because you refused to tell me what you wanted? but i've dealt with similar crap during lapdances too.

    i'd want to try escorting, but i'm not comfortable with some of the risks. i really admire the girls who are smart and strong enough to go about it the right way, though. i don't think i could handle it.
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    I guess when it comes down to it, whether you're doing porn, escorting, dancing, camming whatever... there's three good words to live by: Weigh. Your. Options.
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    Porn for private clientale.. Hm.. I don't know I'd be really hesitant. I've seen ads for it and I've had offers to shoot this type of porn but my thing is .. How private is it really?

    Yes everyone has a limit. I think being filmed is just something I'd never do. Considered it? Yes. I'm just not that ballsy. Smart? Yes. I've been escorting on my own for almost 2 years now and have never had a date go wrong, never been busted *knocks on wood*, my clients treat me with the utmost respect... more respect than the guys I've encountered in my personal life. I wouldn't trade my job for anything in the world.

    I know a few girls that makes 6 figures doing porn and all power to them. I just think it's a hugge step in the sense of....privacy. With porn, I can shoot one film and it'll be everywhere. with escorting, I can go on as many dates I want and not have "proof" of it.

    Oh and stripping was great but I'd never do it again. Walking around naked for free just wasn't cool to me. Going to a date, getting my money UPFRONT for how many hours I was gonna be there and then spending time with a gent one on one is pure bliss... to me!

    Whatever job it is: Porn, Stripping, Escorting, Erotic maid, Massage girl.. whatever.. there's still a stigma attached to this type of work. I'm no better than a pornstar or a stripper but I do feel this (escorting) is my true calling IN THIS industry.

    With all that being said and done..If you don't enjoy sex in itself escorting is not for you. I wouldn't enjoy being filmed fucking some guy or some GUYS...so porn is not for me. My own solo site? That wouldn't be too bad but an actual dvd like in a store? I'd go nuts.. lol!

    Good luck to the OP!

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    I plan on doing solo and maybe girl girl. I think fetish is really my calling though. I'd never want to do a gang bang or bukkake because it's just not as sexy to me.

    I think I'm also trying to find my favorite niche in the industry. Dancing is great, but you are right there's a lot of walking around half naked or naked for free. It's really not what it used to be.

    OP have you tried looking at some of the bigger companies? I'm sure you will find something that pays better pretty much anywhere.
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    I would definately look up the "going rates in your area" to see if this is comparable. I do think it is rather low. With escorting, the going rates vary so greatly. All of the above include some risk.

    I have worked all aspects of the adult industry, and I will say that porn is definately not forever. I have done videos and they have all faded far far away. I google my old porn name and nothing comes up. Unfortunately, not everyone experiences this, but I got in and got out long ago. Could a video pop up on the net in a few years sure. Like porn, if you are webcamming, most of the time you sign rights away to any of your content. I know this seems unusual but I was not a big name, and I often shot my content under different names. People will not go out of their way to promote girls who only have a few videos out there.

    BUT You can be shooting porn and still end up with a psycho stalker.

    You can be an escort and still end up with std's and arrested.

    Malaya, pls never say never! You could very well end up with "Proof" of your escorting (just not in the way you visualize) on your PERMENANT record! You could very well end up alone in a room with some guy who goes berserk, but strippers can also find themselves in this situation, and porn stars too!

    Also, If you are concerned about videos ending up on the web, and being forever, you may want to rethink camming. Doing hardcore camshows with toys is definately not the same as boy/girl gonzo porn, but alas it is still porn, and on camsites you sign away your right to the content.

    I just wanted to add that although escorting IS legal, prostitution is not. If you have any fear of being busted you are probably doing something you should not be doing as an escort! Although you may be an escort on paper, once you cross that fine line, you are no longer an "escort" you are a prostitute, and this comes with consequences.

    Porn is not necessairily legal to shoot in your community (depending where you are from) The laws vary greatly from state to state.

    Where porn companies are concerned, they are not always legal and legit either (as in with proper business licencing) Neither are all escorting agencies.

    You really have to do your homework so you do not become the victim of circumstance.

    Never say never, and never let your guard down! Most often the people who are victims of crime NEVER thought it could happen to them.

    All of the above have their risks, but without risk there is no reward. Just be safe, educate yourself, and above all don't do anything that makes YOU uncomfortable. If dp'ing 3 guys on video doesn't make you comfortable, don't do it, no matter how much money is offered. If you go beyond your own comfort zone it is not worth it. Unfortunately there are girls out there who would gladly DP 3 guys for $300 on video because they are comfortable with it, or whatever reasons they may have. Don't sell yourself short.

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    You can be an escort and still end up with std's and arrested.
    I never said you couldn't.


    Malaya, pls never say never! You could very well end up with "Proof" of your escorting (just not in the way you visualize) on your PERMENANT record! You could very well end up alone in a room with some guy who goes berserk, but strippers can also find themselves in this situation, and porn stars too!
    I have mastered this profession. I'm pretty good at escorting. The whole screening, meeting and doing the client.. Yeah I'm pretty good at it. I've had run ins with cops when I was working for the agency and I knew exactly what to say/not to say/do/not to do.. and I know how to handle myself when put in these situations. You're not telling me something I already know however, I totally understand where you're coming from.

    Also, If you are concerned about videos ending up on the web, and being forever, you may want to rethink camming. Doing hardcore camshows with toys is definitely not the same as boy/girl gonzo porn, but alas it is still porn, and on camsites you sign away your right to the content.
    Been camming for three years and If I was uncomfy with my vids on the next I will not be camming. I am grown I can make my own decisions. Yes I will do solo porn all day if I had to but boy/girl porn, NO. If anyone found a vid of my fucking myself with my toy I wouldn't care.. simple as that.. lol.


    I just wanted to add that although escorting IS legal, prostitution is not. If you have any fear of being busted you are probably doing something you should not be doing as an escort! Although you may be an escort on paper, once you cross that fine line, you are no longer an "escort" you are a prostitute, and this comes with consequences.
    Did you read any of my above posts? I just read this. I'm confused as who this is being directed to however. I don't care what "name" anyone calls me. Yes I'm an escort, hooker ..prostitute.. So what's up. Oh and I never mentioned being afraid of getting arrested.

    Never say never, and never let your guard down! Most often the people who are victims of crime NEVER thought it could happen to them.
    I never do. I've screened for other girls and they never ran into any problems. Oh not to mention my wonderful escort friends here on sw who I've helped start a very lucrative and safe business via phone/email.. etc. I am very aware of the business and all the tricks guys use... however, I am still learning..

    You basically said everything I said earlier



    A quote from my earlier posts:
    However only escorts that don't screen get busted.
    Only escorts that don't screen end up with psychos
    As an escort I'm not going to have videos of me anywhere..
    Yes escorting is legal, Prostitution is not :-)
    I know this sounds bitchy but I'm not trying to be a bitch in this post.. especially not to you cs
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    just to bring up...if you film for private use, it can still be put up on youporn or something.

    if it isn't being made for distribution, it's considered prostitution.

    and that's even if they are good about making sure their performers have been tested and all that 2257 stuff is taken care of.

    and honestly, if the money is the same as prostitution money, well, at least with that you don't have to provide a picture and signature and let the john make copies of your ID and social security card. if you're comfortable with prostitution, don't even bother with porn.

    last week, i spent an hour on the phone my bank (mostly trying to explain what i wanted) so i could add a password to my account, because i was able to report my debit card lost the day before using only my name and social. freaked me the fuck out.
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    yes you can absolutely get an STD or a psycho or get arrested no matter how well you screen. So saying only girls who dont screen get those things is just not true.

    If you care about having video of you out there more then you care about possibly being arrested, etc..then thats your decision. my decision is that i dont care about video of me out there but I do care about the possibility of being arrested,etc. You say that you arent trying to tell anyone that escorting is better...but at the same time..you are pretty much saying exactly that.

    And you can get STD's doing porn for sure, but your chances are less with both parties tested then only one...bareback or not. Condoms dont stop everything. Esp if you do BBBJ. In the last 20 years there have been two small contained outbreaks of HIV in mainstream porn(with one stemming from an actor, Darren James who shot in Brazil So I dont shoot with anyone who has shot out of the country in the last 6 months). Vs how many prostitutes/escorts have contracted it?? Since there arent stats on prostitutes like there is with porn we will never know. But I'd bet my life that the chances are higher with prostitutes. Even ones who screen and not streetwalkers. Because the client is never tested and condoms dont always work. So the odds are that escorting ups your chances more then porn does. Im not saying that escorting is bad...just that those are the odds. And its something to figure in when you are deciding.

    It all comes down to your own personal choices about what YOU are comfortable with. So trying to "prove" that either job is "better" then the other is stupid and pointless. Pointing out the cons of one and not the pros is also pointless. As is telling someone not to do it. People have to make their own choices and no one is better or worse. Just better or worse for THEM.

    Ive done over 90 XXX films and magazines. It doesnt bother me. Being alone in a room expected to fuck a stranger with nobody else there to intervene..etc..is just not for me. One on one with the client not wanting to believe that this is just business makes me uncomfortable. For someone else...being on a set with a dozen people watching and everything on video/internet forever would be uncomfortable for them. The two are different but neither is superior.
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    ^That is a good tidbit of info on the private video thing. I get approached to do private fetish videos all the time, and while there isn't actual sex in them, I'd still like to protect myself.
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    ^^I guess you didn't read my above posts. I never said one was better than the other and I never said you were sleeping with diseased men so telling me that you don't see guys who has filmed out side the country is unneccesary as you assuming that escorts go around giving bbbjs.

    I've discussed the whole bbbj in a very old thread I'm pretty sure if you look hard enough you'd find it. Not every escort performs bbbjs...I encourage cbjs...that whole mess about not being a true GFE because you don't give bbbjs is bullshit..total crap started by greedy hobbyists.

    Yes you are absolutely right. I will not feel comfortable with my face and tidbits being plastered in over 80 xxx magazines..Just like you won't feel comfortable in relaxed one on one environment with a stranger

    P.s I'm friends with lots of escorts in the business. I know girls that have been working for 10-15 years and have never been busted. So unless you yourself have worked as an escort... you shouldn't say what you don't know. There are different ways/levels of screening and there are different "tricks" to the business. It's all an art and not for everyone.

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    I have worked all aspects of the adult industry, and I will say that porn is definately not forever. I have done videos and they have all faded far far away. I google my old porn name and nothing comes up. Unfortunately, not everyone experiences this, but I got in and got out long ago. Could a video pop up on the net in a few years sure. Like porn, if you are webcamming, most of the time you sign rights away to any of your content. I know this seems unusual but I was not a big name, and I often shot my content under different names. People will not go out of their way to promote girls who only have a few videos out there.
    This has been my experience too. I did one hardcore movie, several softcore (including a few that would be considered fetish I think like footjobs), a little bit of feature performing and several modeling jobs (most artistic nude but a few a little more risque, and I once advertised for a club) all under the same name. I've Googled variations of the name and nothing has ever popped up. I was never a big name either but I can't find anything. I worry sometimes thing can pop up especially the hardcore video, but it never has.

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