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    after working a 12 hour shift, my friend left the club and took what she thought was a cab. several people have scolded her for not checking the plates or asking what company they were with, and while i'm not saying they're wrong, it doesn't make what happened right. i mean, she was exhausted after 12 hours and the car looked like the cabs that usually drive pass the club.

    when she got in, a man that had been lying down in the backseat refused to let her leave the car. they drove in loops and dragged her to the side entry of an apartment,where they beat her, took her money, tried to break her phone, and ran.

    a woman saw her and, thinking she was a prostitute that had had a bad time, began questioning her about what agency she worked for. my friend knows nothing about escorting and when she said, you mean a dancers agency? the woman told her to stop the bullshit. when my friend called the cops to report what happened the woman left, leaving her with no witnesses.

    the cops acted like she was a streetwalker whose drugs had been stolen. i'm not exaggerating; she had zip loc bags she used to put her clothes in and they thought it was for drugs. they said, "we just think there's something you're not telling us". even though she tried to tell them about the guys, they said they couldnt do anything to help, couldnt get her money back, wouldnt catch the guys, and, "tell us what the bags are for and what really happened." she even gave the address to the club she (we) work at and they waved it off. she had bruises on her face, was carrying no lube or condoms, wasn't dressed provocatively. they didnt ask if she was ok or if she wanted to go the hospital or their precinct, though her face was swollen and she was sobbing, and in shock. they refused to drive her home and dropped her off at a train station at 5 am, saying that they'd never heard of her home address.

    im so upset about this. the only thing my friend did wrong was make a bad choice getting into the car yet she was interrogated like a criminal and dismissed as a liar and sex worker. she wants to make a report since she saw both of the men's faces and would recognize them but doesnt know what to do.

    any suggestions? anything at all i could do to help?

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    She needs to file a complaint against the police department ASAP!!!! Get the club to back her up, saying she left work there, I'm sure they have on security cameras her getting into the alleged cab.
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    good idea! i dont know if the camera will have caught the license plates but it would still help to have a better car description.

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    FILE A COMPLAINT! OMG this makes me mad file one complaining about the officers blowing her off best she go in while she still has bruises and stuff and file a police report about the incident.

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    Oh god. Thats horriable! I feel so bad for her, nothing like that should ever happen to anyone. Where is this if u dont mind? I agree with what JD said, since the police did nothing to help at all, they did not do their job, a complaint is an important thing. Check if anyone saw her leave the club with any info.. plus if she could tell you where they drove around, check for cameras there. Usually big intersections or streets do, and the apartment building for cameras would help.

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    Its the cops job to get warrents for any tapes for an open case and unfortunately if they think shes a hooker they will be less willing to help she should probably have someone go with her to vouch for her not being a prostitute.

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    My guess is unfortunately they probably wont "waste" (as they would put it) resources on a mugging and will just put it on record. These things make me want to cry.

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    this happened in brooklyn... our 2 bosses would vouch for her. i dont think she got their badge numbers though so i'm not sure how this would work. i think it didnt hit until later how badly they acted.

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    Well if she deals with rude cops in the future she can get their name and badge # and the number of their superior she has a right to it. Im sad now for her makes me want to hurt the bad guys. Remove a certain apendage and shove it down their throat or where the sun dont shine. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    oh my gosh THANKYOU for posting this, i think everyone needs to be aware of how very vulnerable we are when we walk out that club.the world is a horrible place. i can completely relate to that situation, i had been drugged and molested walked home and was out of my mind then when i called the cops i was still high the NEXT DAY and they interrogated me, basically fabricated a story that i was a junkie who cheated on her boyfriend for drugs..
    i want to give your friend a really big comforting hug.

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    that really sucks...so sorry to hear that happened to your friend. esp after working so many godawful hours in one day! what happened to your friend is WRONG on SO many levels! it makes me feel terrible to hear about that!

    although i truly hate what happened, truthfully it doesnt surprise me much that that bitch (aka the woman/witness) and the cops doubted her like that...ive heard of stuff happening like that before unfortunately. it seems that in this day and age, more and more cops and other people feel like "criminalizing" the crime victim instead of doing shit about the actual person/people committing the crime. ive even heard of more than one instance where the crime VICTIM was ARRESTED! theyll usually give the crime victim some bullshit charge like "disorderly conduct", something that you dont realy need evidence or a real reason to give out. this esp happens if the person gets upset about what happened (e.g. hysterical crying), if the person contradicts the cops' accusations about her, if the person argues back to the cops after they falsely accuse her of something, etc. sometimes this doesnt even happen with the cops but with an intermediate person--a security guard/rent-a-cop, a witness like 'that bitch' woman, etc--and the intermediate person, annoyed that the person is godforbid upset bout what happened, tells the cops to arrest her for disorderly. a few instances of this happening even made headlines after the "criminalized crime victims" fought back by spilling their bad story to the media in an attempt to 'get back' at the cops for treating them so badly. heres an example:

    heres another thought. perhaps the dumb cunts who drove the psuedo "cab" PURPOSELY picked that location to drag her out of and rob her becuz they knew it was a sketchy one where many prostitutes and drug dealers hung out at. this way, it would look more "likely" that she was a "prostitute on drugs" than an innocent girl trying to get a ride home. knowing the cops would focus on the petty possibility of HER being a prostitute and a drug user, thus deflecting away from trying to find out who the true criminals were.

    and the cops claiming they "never heard of her address" was such bullshit. they prolly just said that becuz: a, they didnt want to make the effort to drive an alleged "prostitute" home. b, they prolly thought she was "lying" bout her address to make herself look like a person who had her shit together and was therefore less likely to be a drug abuser

    so terrible.

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    Default Re: furious. my friend was robbed and beaten after leaving work

    Holy shit what city and state is this in?

    What bullshit. She should file a complaint with the city.

    I'm glad your friend is okay!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    Holy shit what city and state is this in?
    Brooklyn, NY

    This is fucking awful. I'm disgusted and so sorry she's going through this.

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    I feel sorry for your friend and sadly the cops don't give a rats ass about strippers, and they think strippers are as low as hookers. Personally, even if your friend was a hooker (I know she's not) she still doesn't have to put up with this! Sick and disgusting. Then people wonder why so many people love animals more than humans. It's part of the mentality that unless you are a "good girl" (though strippers can be good girls) that you deserve what you get. I learned this while stripping.

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    although i truly hate what happened, truthfully it doesnt surprise me much that that bitch (aka the woman/witness) and the cops doubted her like that...ive heard of stuff happening like that before unfortunately. it seems that in this day and age, more and more cops and other people feel like "criminalizing" the crime victim instead of doing shit about the actual person/people committing the crime. ive even heard of more than one instance where the crime VICTIM was ARRESTED! theyll usually give the crime victim some bullshit charge like "disorderly conduct", something that you dont realy need evidence or a real reason to give out.
    Yep. Years ago two events happened that changed my opinion of the justice system entirely. First, I was beaten up by a friend of a friend's boyfriend. Though he provoked me and attacked me for no reason, the judge (his last name was Dohme, I'll NEVER forget this) dismissed it as an "angry girl" who was jealous. Um, no, I had no interest in dating this guy and did NOTHING to provoke him. Strangely, the cop who arrested him (one of the good cops) told me he should have gotten arrested because the guy attacked him years ago. The second case was my then best friend's boyfriend (her boyfriend's friend attacked me in the previous story) hit me and I was arrested because I hit him back! Even though he was drunk and had a police record, and I was sober and never arrested the cops arrested me and not him (this was in a Chicago suburb called Tinley Park which has gotten in trouble for sexism). The cop even told me bitches like me get what we deserve. If I am ever attacked by a guy again I will put a hit on him (my dad knows people and the guy above who beat me up became paralyzed because of it). The justice system doesn't work for the victims, only the criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3wlove View Post
    this happened in brooklyn... our 2 bosses would vouch for her. i dont think she got their badge numbers though so i'm not sure how this would work. i think it didn't hit until later how badly they acted.
    There's a record of who responded to the call at the time she called and every area is sectioned off and assigned. There's a few ways to determine which officers responded. So, don't worry about that. In the future she should go by a private car service or known cab co. That's what sucks about cabbing it in the boroughs. You don't have the assurance of dealing with a medallioned Yellow Cab. I'm so so sorry this happened! Not for nothing, there are some real dirtbag cops in NY but in Brooklyn especially. Please tell her to get a lawyer asap! Call up the ACLU because this may be a case of civil rights violation based on her gender. There may be a long line of these incidents with these cops. I think getting them involved would make them less likely to retaliate. Her lawyer should be the one to gather this sensitive info. Also, if she pursues this please tell her to consider working in a different area so none of their dirtbag buddies decide to stalk, threaten, or harrass her. This is one of the reasons I got the f out of NY! The cops there are too frickin dicy.
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    If she can't identify the cops that brushed her off, id make it a known issue and go to the media. This is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    She needs to file a complaint against the police department ASAP!!!! Get the club to back her up, saying she left work there, I'm sure they have on security cameras her getting into the alleged cab.
    This. That's such hard core discrimination. I remember when I was robbed at gunpoint in my own apartment complex in Las Vegas at 4am. Fucking insane shit. I can't imagine getting beaten up too.

    Get her to take pictures of her injuries to submit with the complaint and the vouch letter from the club. I'm sick to fucking death of us being treated like criminals and second class citizens.

    My blood is absolutely boiling for this poor chick. WTF.

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    now im curious...after those cuntish cops did nothing useful by dropping her off at a train station at 5am, how did she get home if shed been robbed? was she able to ask someone at the station for money? (although i dunno who would be at a station at 5am other than some shady individuals or mebbe a ticket window person) or was she able to contact a friend to pick her up? or did those thief cunts forget to check a pocket, thus leaving her with a little bit of cash? just curious. also, how is she doing now? i hope she is doing a little better. so sorry to hear about this. ironically this occured on the anniversary of something somewhat similar that occured to some people i know, which makes me have even more sympathy and compassion for ur friend.

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    argh..my friend said she thinks she wont do anything after all, besides go to the precinct to give a description of the thugs. i suggested what she could do but she doesn't think it's going to work. i want to respect her wishes 'cause it seems to be her way of coping with what happened, but at the same time i want to kick up a HUGE fuss on her behalf .

    oh, in answer to kthnx, she still had her metrocard tucked in one of her pockets so she got home with that. im so sooo glad nothing worse happened.

    thank you for all the replies i'm going to give her the info i can in case she does do something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3wlove View Post
    argh..my friend said she thinks she wont do anything after all, besides go to the precinct to give a description of the thugs. i suggested what she could do but she doesn't think it's going to work. i want to respect her wishes 'cause it seems to be her way of coping with what happened, but at the same time i want to kick up a HUGE fuss on her behalf .

    oh, in answer to kthnx, she still had her metrocard tucked in one of her pockets so she got home with that. im so sooo glad nothing worse happened.

    thank you for all the replies i'm going to give her the info i can in case she does do something.
    As frustrating as it may be, it's good that you're respecting her wishes. Hopefully she changes her mind and decides to do something about it, so others can avoid a similar fate. Send some hugs her way

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    I hope she is ok.

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    I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. She is lucky she did not get raped. If she did, she needs to go to a rape crisis center.
    http://www.health.state.ny.us/commun...isis/index.htm

    I knew that I had read about this sort of thing happening in NYC before. I did a search and it turns out that there are other instances like this that have happened in the past. In Vegas and NYC. In Vegas we have regular cab drivers that are regular taxi drivers for the different individual clubs. Apparently some girl out here got killed by a taxi driver so that's why they are so strict now.
    This is from a discussion thread called "Safety tips for Newbies" http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=81481
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    I have posted about this before, but I will post it again:

    A really good friend of mine was hanging out downtown in Manhattan on New Year's Eve. She got really wasted and lost track of the friend she was staying with in Brooklyn. She also somehow lost her cell phone at a bar and didn't remember his number. So she gets desperate and decides to take a cab from Manhattan to her friend's house in Brooklyn. I don't know the exact sequence of events, but the cabbie took her to a strange, empty apartment in Brooklyn, violently forced her inside and brutally raped her. He might have murdered her, but he went to the bathroom and she ran like hell. When she finally made it back to her friend's house, she called the police, and they basically treated it like she'd had her bike stolen. The saddest part about this is that I'm pretty sure she was still a virgin; she's old-fashioned and wanted to save it for her wedding night. And the worst part of the story is that he's still out there, probably taking other girls to his empty rape apartment.

    I still take cabs sometimes, but you have to be careful. Just because someone is a cab driver doesn't mean they're not capable of rape and murder. Not to mention that the cabbie knows that you're a stripper and knows exactly where you live. If you run into a psycho cabbie, you're fucked.

    A good idea might be to try to find a cab driver that you trust. Some drivers give out their cards, and I'm sure one would love to have a repeat customer every night who tipped a bit better than most. When I traveled to strip I had one cab driver I would always call. He was very reliable and would always show up within a few minutes of my calling. I tried to tip him a lot more than usual and he refused my extra tips. He always made sure I made it in my apartment safe as well.

    Also, have mace, pepper spray or something like that in your pocket if you are taking a cab ride from an unknown cabbie.

    NEVER LET SOMEONE TAKE YOU TO A "SECOND LOCATION" WHERE THEY COULD RAPE AND MURDER YOU.
    It's better for her to report it late than never.
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    Those guys are hard core criminals and they will do it to someone else. She can start by just calling 311 if she is too embarrassed or afraid. If they do get caught, even if its their first offense, it will go on their record which will help their next victim.
    Just because those cops were scumbags does not mean that all cops are scumbags. Some are good and some are really bad. Just like in any other line of work. We have all met sleazy strippers who rip guys off. What if all guys thought that we were ALL sleazy too? Then we would not have any customers.
    Being the victim of a crime is overwhelming. Her response of anger and disbelief is totally normal. She needs to have the strength to move to the next phase of coping with what happened to her so it won't happen to someone else. She is lucky that she did not wind up in intensive care or worse dead... but the next victim might. She needs to report what happened!

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    this is disgusting. I was mugged a month and a half ago, outside my own apartment. it took the cops an HOUR AND A HALF to get there, and then told me there was nothing they could do. in that hour and a half it took them to respond to me, he shot an elderly woman in the head several blocks away.

    UGHHHHHHHHH i had a customer explain to me how crime is beneficial to the city, and while i thought he was crazy at first, it makes plenty of fucking sense... >.< some of these fucking cops make me so mad...

    i am so sorry for your friend. I am glad she made it out with just bruises though, it could have been much, much worse.
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    She needs to get herself a REGULAR driver. One that she can depend on and know who she is getting into the car with

    @kellydancer what those guys did to you was not very nice at all,but to brag about having some one paralyzed is kindve sick,hope it made you feel better.
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    It did make me feel better knowing what happened to him. He was a guy who almost killed his exwife and another girlfriend ended up with broken legs because of him. Btw, I should have worded that different because my dad didn't have him paralyzed, rather someone else who was a victim did. I am glad he is and am just sad he didn't die.

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