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    I can't help but to feel like it's MY fault that I did bad today. While many girls said it was a bad day, I still feel like there were enough customers to work with, as well as enough girls who I did see doing better than me. I also noticed that guys who told me that they were just watching, would later spend money on someone else.

    While I understand that everyone has bad days and it's the average that counts, I still can't help but to feel extra bad bc not only did I not make much money, but I feel like I did something wrong compared to the other girls.

    What made things even WORSE was that 2 customers who I've given LDs to before have gotten 3 dances @ 1 time in the past, while today (of all days), they each got 1. WORSE yet, the 1 told me how I made him feel like such a king the last time, yet today, he only has $40 to spend on me? I know it shouldn't bother me, but it was just frustrating.

    Even worse is that I am unsure what I did wrong! The only thing, possibly, that I did was not act "sexy" enough and try to act more "friendly," and I guess I rushed guys more. I alluded to LDs w/in the 1st song of talking.

    If the club had been dead, I wouldn't feel this way. If guys who told me that they weren't getting dances did NOT get any later, I wouldn't feel this way either. If I went into the work day with a bad attitude, didn't try to look my best, or was notably flabbier, I wouldn't feel this way either - but since none of this is the case, I can't help but to feel that my hustle is off.

    Oh yeah, I also approached a TON of people, so it's not like I just sat in the corner and didn't try talking :-/.

    I guess next time I work I'll have to remember to:

    -be more flirty/touchy/feely/giggly
    -ask for tips if they don't get dances
    -gage each customer INDIVIDUALLY to see when to start trying to sell

    :-/

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    I have had nights like this too! It was dead on Tuesday and I left with very little. Most girls did BAD, but I did especially bad and I was being really hard on myself. I was still depressed about it the next day, and kept going over everything I could have possibly done wrong. I know it sucks when these things happen.

    You are taking the "No's" too personally. I do this too, especially when it is slow for me and I get a lot of them. I had trouble overcoming this on Saturday, but once I did it REALLY picked up for me. Always go in with the attitude (when u approach guys) that the guy is going to say yes. If you can't get him in the back, then of course move on. Simply resting your hand on his hand, or his thigh is enough contact. I typically don't do this on busy nights, but I always sit as close as possible and cozy up a little. If you take it personal, it will affect your hustle no matter how well u *hide* it. I'm very anal about looks at work, I always try to look perfect and my outfits/make up is very polished. I consider myself attractive, as do most men, but stripping has little to do with it.

    Sometimes when we let that voice of, "Is my outfit wrong?," "Do I look fat?" "Did my perfume wear off!?" "Am I not saying the 'right' things?" "I am wayyyy hotter than her, why didn't he take me back!?" "Ugh, he told me he didn't have any money!!"

    Do not let these thoughts enter your head!!! When they do you must get past it. Tell yourself men are strange (they are), and every guy wants something. Its your job to find that guy for you. Instead of thinking about all the guys you did approach, think about all the guys you DID NOT. I bet there were more than you think. You are fabulous and tell yourself that. Don't get too hung up on the rejection. Remember some nights will be good for you and this will be easy. Some will be moderate and other times a pain in the ass! You may be hot and in demand one minute, and slow on sales the next. Tomorrow is a new day. Focus on you and you only. Try not to pay too much attention to what other girls are doing. This can be hard, but you can do it.
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    I feel the same way tonight. My club has been semi-dead all week and I did decent the last two nights. But tonight there were more customers and I just couldn't get a yes out of anyone. I can't wait for fourth of July to be over with. I feel like the holidays really screw up our business (at least at my club).

    I get down on myself too and think something is wrong with my hustle, especially with not being flirty enough. However, I am also afraid to be too flirty and give customers the idea that I am willing to offer extras. Being a clean dancer in a dirty club will also bring you down. No matter how good your hustle is, it is really hard to compete with whores. I work in a one-way contact club where the customers can't touch the girls, but I know for a fact that girls some girls allow more touching than there are supposed to.

    Don't let tonight get to you. Just use it as motivation to go in and hustle hard tomorrow. That's what I am going to do.

    Sending you wishes for a good weekend!

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    Default Re: Venting - Down on Self about Hustle

    One said you made him feel like a king last time...

    So you were having an off day. Don't beat yourself up over it, and move on.

    That is all you can really do.




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    I went through the same thing this week. I know that I definitely rush customers too much and have a harder time keeping my stripper face on some days; trust me, you aren't alone. It's hard to hide the impatience when you aren't meeting your goals. All we can really do is remind ourselves that we're human and days like this are going to happen no matter how good of a dancer we may be. At least we're bright enough to realize that our hustle is off instead of sitting in the back whining about everything on the planet. And give yourself some mad props for continuing to stay out on the floor doing your best instead of throwing in the towel. Like I told my boyfriend earlier this week, I'm pissed about not getting what I wanted but at least I did the best I could, even if it wasn't the best I'm totally capable of.

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    On Wednesday night I actually left OWING! I dunno what was going on, it was like an Asshole Convention was in town.
    I should've went in yesterday to make up for Wednesday, but I just didn't have the strength.

    This might sound bad, but in makes me feel better knowing that other girls have bad nights too.
    The best thing about them though, it can't be any worse the next time. (for the most part...lol)

    I hope you make millions next time you go in!

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    Sometimes I have those nights too. It was probably a mix of attitude not being on point and just bad luck. Sometimes I over obsess about how I missed out when I see another girl banking off of someone. I kinda think "I should have went up to him" and get down on that. its all about mental attitude and we can't always be on point, we're human.

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    Call me crazy but I do believe that customers can sense your "off days" even if you are trying your best to be enthusiastic and flirty. That and I think that customers are less inclined to buy dances from a girl that is perpetually turned down. When you start taking the "no's" personally, your confident aura wears off and you may be less motivated to put in your all because you feel like the next customer is just going to say no.

    I'll have a few of these nights ever now and then. I go in the next day and it's always better.

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    Try to keep your head up, I'm sure you'll do better the next time you work. Good work!

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    I have been having a lot of bad days lately.. I get so irritated because only 2 dhort years ago I couldnt make the money fast enough and now the whole game has changed and I can barely make tipout sometimes... I know how you feel too about pushing dances faster when there are more customers, bcuz at least in my club...buisness has been so slow and we have so few customers, that when we finally get some...i wanna work..not sit...

    but some of the best advice I've ever gotten is DONT TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY... some days are always gonna be better than others... just gotta learn to roll with the punches...

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    tonight was like that for me. nothing seemed to do it people just kept telling me i have a future in sales and to smile more often [i did at the start but the enthusiasm eventually wore off]
    what sucks is that tonight i really consciously tried to spent the least amount of time in the changeroom or smoking and to approach everybody i just had difficulty closing the sales. it wasnt a spectecular night and all the girls there were working and most girls were complaining about how shit it is my problem is that i put in a huge huge huge effort for very minimal amount. basically at this point i dont know what it is i could do better except not get depressed about it and get by until summer gets here

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    Quote Originally Posted by anouk.oui View Post
    tonight was like that for me. nothing seemed to do it people just kept telling me i have a future in sales and to smile more often [i did at the start but the enthusiasm eventually wore off]
    what sucks is that tonight i really consciously tried to spent the least amount of time in the changeroom or smoking and to approach everybody i just had difficulty closing the sales. it wasnt a spectecular night and all the girls there were working and most girls were complaining about how shit it is my problem is that i put in a huge huge huge effort for very minimal amount. basically at this point i dont know what it is i could do better except not get depressed about it and get by until summer gets here
    SAME HERE..only i'm waiting for winter lol. Today I made less than the first day I ever started..now, yes i'm grateful I made ANYTHING and didnt leave owing etc, but this entire week has just been a waste. Every guy I meet says "oh you must do so well.." and the regulars say "you're going to do great here!" blah blah..really? Because apparently guys around here DONT want the sexy girl with brains. They want prostitutes, end of story. How the hell can you compete with that. (and this is going on like..6 clubs this has been an extreme problem in already..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine16 View Post
    SAME HERE..only i'm waiting for winter lol. Today I made less than the first day I ever started..now, yes i'm grateful I made ANYTHING and didnt leave owing etc, but this entire week has just been a waste. Every guy I meet says "oh you must do so well.." and the regulars say "you're going to do great here!" blah blah..really? Because apparently guys around here DONT want the sexy girl with brains. They want prostitutes, end of story. How the hell can you compete with that. (and this is going on like..6 clubs this has been an extreme problem in already..)
    Maybe that's not the angle that works for you? I try to intersperse being intelligent with just being a fun person to hang out with. Most men aren't coming there to talk about elevated academic topics. You can hint at your intelligence with your sense of humor and attention to him. Or maybe what makes you money is acting like a ditz. Shrugs. (I'm sure you've already considered this, I just thought I'd mention it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Maybe that's not the angle that works for you? I try to intersperse being intelligent with just being a fun person to hang out with. Most men aren't coming there to talk about elevated academic topics. You can hint at your intelligence with your sense of humor and attention to him. Or maybe what makes you money is acting like a ditz. Shrugs. (I'm sure you've already considered this, I just thought I'd mention it.)
    You know you're right, as annoying as it is for me, I"m going to try to add in more ditz today and see if that works, because the bitchy thing? Not so much lol. But I do have to figure a way to appear less innocent? Guys tell me CONSTANTLY that I look so sweet and innocent..and then they just want to date me. I'm going to try that though, thank you!!

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    Thank you all for the responses .

    Many of you mentioned not to take things personally. I guess I always thought of taking things personally as thinking that customers were turning down "me," as opposed to turning down the services that I had to offer. In the latter case, I NEVER take things personally.

    I guess, though, that I really am taking it personally, bc I start to get down on myself about the "hustling skills." So even though I'm not thinking that it's my character that he's turning down, I AM thinking that he's not finding my skills to be good enough...

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    If he isn't buying dances than he hasn't seen your
    skills.... Don't overthink it.... Sometimes it's just like that. Beyonce could work in your club and I guarantee that she would have nights with more nos than yesses. Nature of the beast. Sven the best hustlers can't sell Everybody

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure View Post
    Sven the best hustlers can't sell Everybody
    While I do think of myself as one of the better hustlers (though I may be delusional), I do think that there are some girls (2 during dayshift where I work, to be exact) who really CAN sell everyone.

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    Exotica,

    The ones who CAN sell well every shift are either very good at tailoring their hustle to each customer and changing their schtick on a moment's notice OR they have been around so long at that club/in that region or have so much experience that they have a discernible ease with the flow of their conversation and truly are in the zone.

    It is likely a mix of both and they do overlap, but the dancers who have a lot of ease in their relations with others won't sound as rehearsed and will not or may not tend to change their style per customer---They just have a de facto alter ego which comes together well..a true 'character'. Some customers like the reliability of a stock character who is always the same but agreeable in personality.

    Other customers like when the salesperson is more like the former, adapting to be similar to THEM, showing versatility, and being the jack-of-all-trades type of performer.
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    I've realized too that my hustle in the club hurts when stuff outside the club needs attention. If my real life is going well, my hustle is flawless, the guys love me, the confidence stays sky high even if it's an hour to close and I'm nowhere near my goal (which means that I can usually hit my goal in that last hour because I'm still energetic and motivated while everyone else is burnt out). If I'm stressed, it carries through. And I'm stressed as hell now due to a big move coming up and with some family issues. So, I started writing in my journal every day before work. I write down all the stuff that's stressing me out, even if it's the same crap every day. Even if it's literally the exact same WORDS every day. Getting it on paper helps me release it so it's not on my mind at work which allows me to stay relaxed and helps make the smile on my face a lot less fake. I've also started working out more because it gives me extra energy and body confidence and because cleaning up my diet doesn't seem to be helping me with getting my six pack back. Stupid 30s.

    So yeah, everyone's different and will have different methods (I know a girl who says that cleaning her house before work helps her hustle), but making a few changes outside of work and tending to your real life first helps a lot when your hustle is crappy for more than a day or two.

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