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    No I have not been arrested.. ever! I have talked my way out of two stings while working for an agency before I became an independent. While there is no sureproof way to avoid being arrested there are some steps to follow.. Screening being one of them but YES there are some steps to follow that will help you avoid being arrested as an escort.

    What prompted me to write this today is a story about an escort that was JUST arrested. I have stressed many times about how an escort is not a prostitiute. You are being paid for your time NOT sexual acts.

    Here is her story...



    After reading it think about it before you respond to this post. This is a very serious matter that shouldn't be played with.

    Here is what this lady did wrong (In her own words). Mind you she's in her 40s and I'm 21. This goes to show. Age is nothing but a number and some people are just dumb sorry I do not support dumb escorts:

    Now, even if he’d told me he was a cop, that might not have set off any of my alarms. I’d already fucked a former FBI agent, several off duty cops, and a CIA agent. We discussed prices, and I emphasized that my prices are for my time. When he seemed ready to go to the next level, I told him that what he paid for was my conversation, and if he wanted me to have sex with him, then the part of the appointment he paid for was over and any further activities would only be between consenting adults. So we started talking about what we liked to do in bed. I thought he was a little reticent, but I’d had nervous guys before, and I thought that was the case here as well. I tried to break the ice by telling him I like receiving oral. He asked if I would also give oral sex. I said yes, that sounds like fun. I began to slip my clothes off. He asked me again. “So, you’d let me eat you out and then you’d give me a blow job?” Sure, sounds like fun! And then I heard a beep, followed by a pounding at the door. I peeked out the peephole and saw several people in POLICE t-shirts, with one holding up a badge.
    My opinion: She's not very bright. Why will she discuss prices? Dosen't she have a website. I don't even discuss prices via email before I meet the guy. This is why we have websites. I also don't have to ask for my money .. this is why we have etiquette pages on our websites.

    2.) SO WHAT if she's fucked other cops, If a guy told me he was a cop I'D RUN! WTF!

    3.) YOU DO NOT GIVE A GUY A FULL DISCLAIMER DURING A DATE, He already knows that. You're an escort! She was staying in a 4 star hotel so I'm guessing she didn't somehow waltz in there and get a room. She was touring and a touring escort should know YOU DO NOT SAY SHIT DURING A DATE. I have never had an appointment when a guy says "I'd like you to do this, will you do this" I'd look at him like what? huh? YES i am that paranoid.

    4. Her story sounds shady as hell. The whole thing about her working for an agency SOUNDS SO STUPID!

    Conclusion? SHE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HER MOUTH SHUT!

    This is the kind of stories that makes me mad. This is why women are busted. They jump into something without knowing the full details. This is why some women get busted and some don't. Please do your research. I am very quiet about business during my date. I never talk about sex, MONEY and I NEVER give a guy a full disclaimer like "You know you're just paying for my time and companionship right?" no! This is why escort's have websites! This is what saved my ass when I walked into a sting. I played dumb. I acted like I didn't know what the hell was going on, told him to call the agency owner and RAN to my car!

    KNOW YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE YOU GET INTO THIS BUSINESS!

    This website has saved my ass twice:

    This was the advice that literally flashed before my eyes when I walked into those stings:

    Avoiding a Hotel or Motel. Vice Sting

    * If it’s a new client. Get there at least a half hour early. Check the parking lot carefully when you arrive. Most of the time cops have someone in a car watching and warning the guys in the room that someone is on the way in.
    * When you walk into the room look for door attaching to the next room next door. If you see one, be safe and say you don’t feel well and have to go, then leave, because 9 times out of 10 it is a set-up.
    * Look for rooms that are too neat, where there is no luggage, no clothes in the closet, the bathroom is perfect, towels and soap hasn’t been used.
    * Cops may try and stage the room to make it look like a mess. Leaving a beer can or cigarettes around in an ashtray. Ask the client when they checked in. See if the room is reasonably messy considering the time they’ve supposedly been there.
    * When they talk about sex or keep trying to get you to talk about money and sex. And if the client’s voice is unusually louder, maybe for a bug or recording device.


    Avoiding Law Enforcement Stings and Legal Problems

    * Is caller a known and respected hobbyist?
    * Have caller provide you references from a known and trusted provider.
    * Do not talk about sex on the phone, in email, or answer questions regarding sex or until you know for sure he is completely safe with him to do so.
    * Use National Blacklist to check on the phone # and email they contacted you with.
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    I have issues with national black list. If they're so concerned about girls' safety and whatnot then why do they charge money? A new girl in this industry is A) A prime target, and B) Doesn't have the money to spend on all the verification websites and bad client lists.

    Someone should make a FREE list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust08 View Post
    I have issues with national black list. If they're so concerned about girls' safety and whatnot then why do they charge money? A new girl in this industry is A) A prime target, and B) Doesn't have the money to spend on all the verification websites and bad client lists.

    Someone should make a FREE list.

    Honey they think we're cash cows. There is providerbuzz which is great and they screen providers they give access to. IT IS FREE!

    Dangerzone411 was started by a provider and it's $35 a month.. I have no problem paying as long as I'm safe. Again they're all think we're cash cows.

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    here's some other tips - I am from Miami so it might not be as relevant where u are
    *dont answer any questions or elaborate. If he asks, "so you're GFE, what does that entail" don't answer. If he asks "this is full service right?" don't answer.
    *stings usually (always in miami) go on in hotels, nice ones and crappy ones. This is because the police can control the situation more easily
    *stings will usually happen on a lower level in the hotel an 99% of the time in a "double door room" they will keep the arrested girls in one side and do the setup in the other
    *even if you realize it is a sting u will probably get booked on a "loitering and prowling" charge, not serious and probably will be dropped when u go to court
    *screen heavily when going to a hotel, get his name and call the hotel and ask if you could speak to "Mr. Smith" in room 217. The front desk will probably tell you the room is vacant or there is no one by that name in that room
    *The hotel will be unusually busy when you go, when you get off the elevator turn back around and try to call the elevator back to the floor. the police will rig the elevators and the elevator wont come if its a bust
    *and last but not least NEVER GO TO A CALL IN A HOTEL WITH AN IN-TOWN NUMBER!! what is he doing in a hotel if he lives in town?
    *police don't have to tell you they are police, so no reason to ask

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    TRUE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post

    Avoiding a Hotel or Motel. Vice Sting

    [B] * If it’s a new client. Get there at least a half hour early. Check the parking lot carefully when you arrive. Most of the time cops have someone in a car watching and warning the guys in the room that someone is on the way in.
    Great tip! Make sure to drive around the entire building to look for marked or a group of unmarked police cars (like Crown Victorias, etc). Most police cars will not park in the front of the hotel in plain view. My friend avoided the cops twice because they were parked in the back of the hotel and she had enough sense to check.

    For those of you who don't know, sometimes hotels work along with law enforcement. If you're touring and check into a hotel and something seems weird, LEAVE. It doesn't matter if you've already paid for the night. I was working with a provider as a screening assistant and while she was in her hotel room, someone called her hotel rooml phone and asked for her by her ESCORT name. She hung up immediately. She had only been checked in for about 30 minutes. I believe this was at a Hyatt. She got out of there ASAP! Scary stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbeezy305 View Post
    *police don't have to tell you they are police, so no reason to ask


    THANK YOU! This myth has been floating for years. I can't believe some ladies think all they have to do is ask a man if he's a cop and expect to get the truth. Hello, police lie all the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post

    Avoiding a Hotel or Motel. Vice Sting

    [B] * If it’s a new client. Get there at least a half hour early. Check the parking lot carefully when you arrive. Most of the time cops have someone in a car watching and warning the guys in the room that someone is on the way in.
    Great tip! Make sure to drive around the entire building to look for marked or a group of unmarked police cars (like Crown Victorias, etc). Most police cars will not park in the front of the hotel in plain view. My friend avoided the cops twice because they were parked in the back of the hotel and she had enough sense to check.

    For those of you who don't know, sometimes hotels work along with law enforcement. If you're touring and check into a hotel and something seems weird, LEAVE. It doesn't matter if you've already paid for the night. I was working with a provider as a screening assistant and while she was in her hotel room, someone called her hotel room phone and asked for her by her ESCORT name. She hung up immediately. She had only been checked in for about 30 minutes. I believe this was at a Hyatt. She got out of there ASAP! Scary stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbeezy305 View Post
    *police don't have to tell you they are police, so no reason to ask


    THANK YOU! This myth has been floating for years. I can't believe some ladies think all they have to do is ask a man if he's a cop and expect to get the truth. Hello, police lie all the time!

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    Another thing is sometimes providers are the cause of their own downfall. Betsey wetsey and soupy sally dosen't have to know where you're staying. Some girls just have big mouths. When I'm traveling the only person that knows where I am is my babysitter. She dosen't know what I do for a living but at least she knows where I am at all times. So.. yeah ppl just can't shutup sometimes.

    Another thing is screening. Some just look at the form and say "this looks just about right" without even checking. DON'T LET CLIENTS DECEIVE YOU! Google everything on the screening form. From his name to where he works. I have dated many CEOs that had their pictures on their company websites, PERFECT! When you screen you have to screen with confidence.

    Guys will tell you ooh this is my first time I've never seen a provider. I collect their work info, verify it and ask for a business car or pay stub if they can't furnish these documents then oops sowwy!

    There's soo many things we can all do to stay safe but alot of people just set themselves up to be busted.

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    most of that makes so much sense, but...

    if a guy is from town but is staying at a hotel, can't that mean stuff besides him being a cop?

    plus, cops can buy those disposable phones and stuff, can't they? they can use a different area code with one of those.
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    during the time i escorted a cop came to see me once. flashed his badge, said he didn't care what i did or if i kept doing it, he just wanted to make sure i was over 18. showed my id, and he said continue with what i was doing and didn't bother me again

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    Holy crap that would scare the hell out of me!

    Dang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    most of that makes so much sense, but...

    if a guy is from town but is staying at a hotel, can't that mean stuff besides him being a cop?

    plus, cops can buy those disposable phones and stuff, can't they? they can use a different area code with one of those.
    This is why we screen

    Screening involves googling, CONFIRMING his job, verifying his address, checking references and much more. No one said if a guy is from out of town that he was a cop. It's the other way around, If he is a local most of the time there is a problem and I say most of the time because sometimes I make my clients get the hotel themselves.

    Cops can buy disposable phones and stuff yes. I've had a few call me with them. This is why I'm email only that way I'm not just screening by voice. I do everything by email. They fill out my screening form and I'll screen them and I'll go see them if everything check out. We don't screen by phones. If his info dosent match and his references are fake we don't see them. If he lies ONE time we don't see them. I look for consistencies.



    Quote Originally Posted by hustler.h0ney View Post
    during the time i escorted a cop came to see me once. flashed his badge, said he didn't care what i did or if i kept doing it, he just wanted to make sure i was over 18. showed my id, and he said continue with what i was doing and didn't bother me again
    I had a correctional officer email me last week to come out and see him. He offered to pay me $500 via paypal before we met so it woudn't be like money exchanged hands. I told him "hell no" He gave me fake references, fake websites and fake emails the only info that I could very was his employment. Was I gonna risk my freedom for $500? Hell no. Screening keeps up safer. Did you not verify his employment before he came to your hotel room? Even if he did lie about his info, If he came to your room and you checked his id and found out the info on it did not match you can ask him to leave by law he can't do anything to you. *sigh* Know your rights. Now if you just wanted a cop client well I guess that makes sense.

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    ^ but don't a lot of guys balk at giving you all that info on them? even ones that are perfectly safe? or maybe they'll lie about something because they don't want their wife finding out or something. or they're afraid that you're really in the business of blackmail or something like that.

    i mean, for you this wouldn't be a huge concern, because you've got a reputation built. but let's say it's a new girl...she could work through an agency, but then she'll have to make sure she trusts the agency to screen.

    and doesn't all this take some of the thrill out of it? the filling out forms, screening, the time it takes. or does that time also serve to weed out the impulsive sorts who get pissed off by condoms and stuff like that?

    it's a really interesting business. i'm glad you're willing to explain it so patiently.
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    but don't a lot of guys balk at giving you all that info on them? even ones that are perfectly safe? or maybe they'll lie about something because they don't want their wife finding out or something. or they're afraid that you're really in the business of blackmail or something like that.


    i mean, for you this wouldn't be a huge concern, because you've got a reputation built. but let's say it's a new girl...she could work through an agency, but then she'll have to make sure she trusts the agency to screen.
    A man that has nothing to hide won't have a problem giving out of the info. Especially one that has been in the "hobby" for a long time. If the girl looks safe he will take a chance or should I say TOFTT (Take one for the team)

    I have dated millionaires while their wives where out of town. I let THEM openly talk about their wives. They're not afraid of expressing themselves however I won't bring up the wife topic no they're not thinking that you're going to blackmail them.

    Um I was new to the busines and I scored a 3500 overnight after three months of putting my site up (Yes I did not work for three months I pretty much didn't know what the hell I was doing) I scored that overnight NOT having a reputation NOT having reviews or anything like that .. Like I said a lot of men will TOFTT If you look safe. It's all about presentation. If you're pics were taken in an alley or in a dirty motel room you will not attract upscale clientale. In other words, You will attract guys that leave one liners, don't want to fill out your screening form and call from blocked numbers NO MATTER HOW WORDED YOUR WEBSITE IS. You will attract a guy that just wants to use you as a "Human Trampoline" It's funny Alot of providers ask how I attract the type of clientale I attract and I look at their website and it's like.. really?

    and doesn't all this take some of the thrill out of it? the filling out forms, screening, the time it takes. or does that time also serve to weed out the impulsive sorts who get pissed off by condoms and stuff like that?

    it's a really interesting business. i'm glad you're willing to explain it so patiently
    Nope not at all. I have never had a bad client All my clients have been well mannered though NOT all have been attractive I have learned at least one thing from each and every one of them. I have never had one client refuse to fill out my form. I have had some guys leave me one liners asking to see me and I reply with a one liner saying "Fill out my form" lol.. If they don't do it, their loss.

    On how screening can take the thrill out of it: That's bull. Escorting is a business. These men are aware of that. They know we're trying to stay safe and they also know if we don't feel safe they will not have a good time. I have had guys give me their info for dates that was scheduled for a month or two later.

    On my website I am very firm. It's funny because I almost pick and choose my clients through my website alone without saying "I'm looking for older refined well mannered gentleman" I don't need to say all that. My pictures alone and wording will attract the RIGHT type of clientale. I've also stated on my site how I will not compromise my health for anyone. I have had ONE client not want to use a condom when I worked for the agency.. I also walked into a sting when I walked for the agency. Since I've been independent? Not one problem .. ever! The guys know if they try to compromise my health in anyway I will take their money and leave. They can leave a bad review all they want but I will blacklist them and defend myself on my blog. I have never had this happen. If a guy is willing to go without a condom with you just imagine how many other ladies he's had bare sex with.. ew!

    So I will say this again, Just because an agency is an agency dosen't mean their screening methods are up to par. I have thought many providers that didn't screen how to screen and they feel alot safer now. Agency only care about their money and that's it. I remember after I walked into that sting I told her about it and She said... "so ..? are you ready for your next appoinment?" I knew THEN that my life was at stake.

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    I can't believe nobody ever asked you specific stuff during the appointment (like what you do, blowjob, handjob, whatever), I'd think they do that all the time.
    Where you nervous when you first started? It seems like with all those precautions it is hard earned money

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    I can't believe nobody ever asked you specific stuff during the appointment (like what you do, blowjob, handjob, whatever), I'd think they do that all the time.
    Where you nervous when you first started? It seems like with all those precautions it is hard earned money
    Of course, They will ask a street prostitute that. Men have more respect for escorts.. Independent escort/call girls. They know what's legal and what's not. I have NEVER had a guy asked me do I do so and so .. Oh no I take that back. When I walked into that sting that's what the cop asked me and I knew it was trouble. How did I know it was a cop? the room was staged just like I read in the articles and he kept trying to get me to associate money and sex. Yes no one has ever asked me about specific acts during a call. oF course some guys will go, "have you done this or that before" but not can you do this or will you do that for extra.. NO.

    When I first started it was a mix of nervousness and excitement. I remember giving my daughter a big hug everytime I left this house thinking this could be very dangerous. This was when I was going through the agency. The more I worked for them , The more I felt unsafe. I didn't know these men they were sending me to. I didn't screen them so I was 20 times more paranoid than I am now.

    Ahh trust me not all providers take the precautions I take or else they wouldn't get busted *knocks on wood*. I've read arrest stories of providers and went .. really? You did that .. you said that? WHY??? Alot of women aren't cut out for this game. No matter how smart you are you have to be smarter. No matter how careful you are you have to be even more careful. I take those precautions because I have a daughter to come home to/take care of..and I don't want to ever risk losing her.

    I guess , To each their own. This job has blessed me in so many ways it's insane i wouldnt give it up for the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust08 View Post
    I have issues with national black list. If they're so concerned about girls' safety and whatnot then why do they charge money? A new girl in this industry is A) A prime target, and B) Doesn't have the money to spend on all the verification websites and bad client lists.

    Someone should make a FREE list.

    Exactlyl...thank you! I went to the url to and wanted to subscribe but was turned off when there was that $19.95 monthly fee...big turn off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee at the beach View Post
    Exactlyl...thank you! I went to the url to and wanted to subscribe but was turned off when there was that $19.95 monthly fee...big turn off!
    Dangerzone411 a board created by a provider is $30.00 a month. 80% of us use it wayyy more expensive that blacklist.. thiink about it.

    PLUS sorry I make too much money to worry about some $30 or $20 a month that's going to keep my ass safe.

    AND how much do we pay for advertising a month? Um eros? $200 cityvibe? $50 gd $50 bd $20.. escorts.com $50

    So why is it such a problem to invest so little in a site that's trying to protect us. Sorry that dosen't make sense to me.

    If nationalblacklist was so bad they won't have those free articles .. those articles alone..(the free ones) are really all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    Dangerzone411 a board created by a provider is $30.00 a month. 80% of us use it wayyy more expensive that blacklist.. thiink about it.

    PLUS sorry I make too much money to worry about some $30 or $20 a month that's going to keep my ass safe.

    AND how much do we pay for advertising a month? Um eros? $200 cityvibe? $50 gd $50 bd $20.. escorts.com $50

    So why is it such a problem to invest so little in a site that's trying to protect us. Sorry that dosen't make sense to me.

    If nationalblacklist was so bad they won't have those free articles .. those articles alone..(the free ones) are really all you need.

    Well excuse my ignorance and naivity but I'm neither an escort or a dancer and have never heard of any of these sites you just listed....

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    ^ I don't get that then why would you want to suscribe then.. just dosent make sense to me.

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    I'm the type of person that likes to be well informed before I jump into any situation....as I mentioned since I am not an escort but have thought of the idea of becoming one, I would like as much information as possible so to answer your question of why am I interested in subscribing is like asking anyone who's in any business to be better informed....

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    Trust me I understand that ...but for someone that doesn't know the business how can you argue that you shouldn't have to pay for those sites. That's what didn't make sense to me. Like I said DZ411 is very private board and their memberships can get up there. I just don't understand why people make a big deal out of $20 a month when we're making $300-500 an appointment.

    Oh and please don't take this as me coming down on you ..

    There are a number of ladies in this business that actually feel the same way you do.
    I just wanted to pick your brain as to WHY you felt we shouldn't have to pay to be on those sites.
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    Oh I'm not complaining about the $20 per month, I think any smart business person such as yourself should subscribe to all those sites you mentioned, especially if its going to benefit you in the long run...absolutely!
    I just agree with Wanderlusts statement that
    1. Since I am not an escort...being a new girl I'd be a prime target, if the national black list site was so concerned about the safety of us women, why would they have to charge us???
    and 2. although if I wanted to cough up the 20 a month I could, but I'm not going to sign up for something for 2 months min. if I decide I don't want to escort or even interested in obtaining info from the site I'd be curious about it, I certainly don't want to be out money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee at the beach View Post
    although if I wanted to cough up the 20 a month I could, but I'm not going to sign up for something for 2 months min. if I decide I don't want to escort or even interested in obtaining info from the site I'd be curious about it, I certainly don't want to be out money...
    Sorry to sound catty, but complaining about $40? Really? That's 2 easy dance sales and what I spend on one delivery meal, lol.

    It's really not much to spend to look into a future career that could prove to be very lucrative.

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    ^ Exactly!

    When I first got started as an independent, I wasn't even complaining about the $95 ad on eros (for example) though I thought it was pretty riduiculous. I made that money back in one appointment PLUS more!

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