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    Default What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    I just found out that my best friend let one of our elderly patrons tittie fuck her in VIP. I'm a bit surprised since she has always been one of the most vocal critic of extras girls.
    I realize the standards for extras differ depending on the club.
    My personal defintion is anything more than touching of legs, arms and back. I'm just not comfortable with heavy 2 way contact.
    Some have brought up the argument that handjobs aren't even extras anymore. Any thoughts?
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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    I know that because I worked in no contact clubs my views are probably stricter of what is an extra. Basically involving the penis is an extra. Touching my boobs or anywhere else sexual is an extra to me. Kissing on the lips is an extra (though strangely I once got in trouble for kissing a regular on the cheek). Handjobs, blowjobs, fs are all extras. I have talked dirty to guys and to some people that might be an extra, but having done phone sex it didn't bother me. Touching my feet I never considered an extra (I love foot rubs). I worked at a few clubs where the guy was allowed to masturbate and while I found that gross (I didn't touch him) that wasn't considered an extra.

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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    i think everybody has their own standards of what an extra is. I personally go by whatever the club/state/whatever rules are. Here in Miami, touching boos and even sucking nipples are not considered an extra, at least in VIP. Tittie fucking is an extra for sure in my book, and hand jobs no doubt.

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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    In my club (also near Miami) touching boobs/butt is allowed. Most of the girls allow men to suck on their nipples but I really don't. I think it's disgusting, and saying no has only hurt my money a very few times.

    The odd thing I find here is that the girls in my club take guys to the back for a dance and grind them until they ejaculate. Like it's an expectation. So a lot of my customers expect me to just grind my butt on them until they finish. My club is VERY strict about no BJ/HJ and they have cameras everywhere but to me, rubbing a guy off 'til he busts a nut is TOTALLY en extra. Haha. I mean, sometimes it happens accidentally, but like placing my crotch on theirs (we wear thongs during LDs and they are not allowed to undress) and pushing me up and down is not an extra...? Haha.

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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    If the city says its illegal an/or the club says its against the rulesl then its an "extra". I've seen managers flip out over a customer touching a girl's ankle.

    With that said, some clubs allow things that the city says are illegal & clubs misinform or mislead the dancers into thinking are legal. IMHO that's still an extra.

    Tempest, honestly I think your friend crossed the line.
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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    If his junk is out, no doubt it's an extra.

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    ur friend sounds like a hypocrite. slamming extras girls and then givin dudes a tit sammich?!?!

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    Yeah, I agree on the hypocrisy thing. I haven't told her, since she doesn't know that I know. She's a great person.
    I have no problems with escorting or prostitution, as I have mentioned before. But take the guy to a hotel and charge him $500. There's are just to many legal and moral ramifications to ITC extras.
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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    I have no problems with escorting or prostitution, as I have mentioned before. But take the guy to a hotel and charge him $500. There's are just to many legal and moral ramifications to ITC extras.
    If you say anything, I'd say exactly what you just said here to us. Although, to keep her from becoming defensive about it you might want to substitute "prostitution" for "what you did"/"extras OTC". Hopefully you can still be friends with her but have her realize it's not appropriate behavior inside the club since it puts everyones work & earning potential at risk.
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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    Extras to me:

    Kissing on the mouth.
    Nipple play: sucking, touching, pulling what have you.
    Boob touching.
    Touching over the thong.
    Any touching of the genitals with fingers, face, penis, hell I don't know, even nose. Gross.
    Grinding your vagina on a customer's face at the stage even with a thong on. Nasty.
    As a matter of fact, grinding your vagina on a customer's face in any circumstance.
    Grinding to completion- dancer or customer. Again: nasty.
    Dancer touching genitals on customer: over or under clothes.
    Dancer removing customer's shirt and putting her mouth on him.
    Dancer removing FEMALE customer's shirt and doing and/or receiving breast play.
    Female customer and/or dancer giving and/or receiving oral sex.
    Titty fucking. Yeah, all around the block.
    Pulling g-string to the side in topless clubs.
    Allowing and/or encouraging any form of sexual release. This could also include the dancer masturbating FOR the customer, UNLESS it is a club like in SF where two girl shows or dildo shows are the norm and legal.


    Basically, I "grew up" in air dance clubs, therefore I allow: touching of my lower legs, if he wants to rub my shoulders I will tolerate it, and I will kiss customers thank you on the cheek, barring they don't smell or are in any other way gross and/or offensive.

    Having these guidelines has only hurt my money in San Francisco and is Las Vegas when it started to reaaaaaaally slow down circa February 09. I still make comparable money to my coworkers.

    But things like ball busting, slapping them, humiliation etc I will do IF and only IF it is legal in the city I am working in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    Here in Miami, touching boos and even sucking nipples are not considered an extra, at least in VIP.
    *makes mental note NEVER to work in miami.* i didn't even like guys messing with my nipples while i was escorting. the only time i'll let a guy near them is if there's a serious mental AND physical attraction going on. then it's on like voltron.

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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    My definition of extras are anything more than the custy caressing ass/boobs/cooch, or the dancer touching his pecker with appendages other than her ass. I don't consider boobies in the face an extra.

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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    my deffinition of an extra is anything against the law in whatever state I'm working in. It really varies from state to state.

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    ^^ I agree. I consider extras to be anything more than what is legally allowed, so that "doing extras" means breaking the law and disadvantaging the other girls by offering more than you should be.


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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    Anything more than touching below my knee or my shoulders. If I am NOT dancing and we are in a champagne room, a back rub is ok, but not my bootie, hips, upper thigh, sides, or stomach. Foot rubs are ok-I love a good foot rub.

    Grinding a guy till he comes, or engaging in anything oral-including kissing NOT on the cheek.

    If it involves his penis being out-NOT ok.

    The first rule on touching is flexible, depending on the laws. But for me, if it is covered by a bikini top and a thong, it is still basically off-limits.
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    I'm really surprised by all the comments about doing things with your mouth. I can see why kissing on the mouth might be considered extra to some people, but as far as kissing anywhere other than the cheek? At least where I work it is SUPER common to lick guys ear lobes/necks even at the tip rail on stage... Like, if you didn't do that it would be weird. Am I weird for feeling this way?

    Also, I consider anything illegal to be an extra, and I don't do extras.

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    i think your friend was vocal about dissing extras to steer attention away the fact that shes heavily into it. tricking people into thinking oh it cant be her shes so totally against it kinda thing. i met a few people like that.
    a korean girl once pretended to all staff she didnt speak any english and just giggled and nodded and when i was in the room next to the changeroom she was sitting in i heard her talk in a calm calculated voice in PERFECT ENGLISH about doing really well but still need at least one customer to touch her kitty to leave with her desired amount.
    we just dont wanna believe it coz we dont wanna think we have been fooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxslc View Post
    I'm really surprised by all the comments about doing things with your mouth. I can see why kissing on the mouth might be considered extra to some people, but as far as kissing anywhere other than the cheek? At least where I work it is SUPER common to lick guys ear lobes/necks even at the tip rail on stage... Like, if you didn't do that it would be weird. Am I weird for feeling this way?

    Also, I consider anything illegal to be an extra, and I don't do extras.
    Licking an earlobe or the neck? Gross to me. I've never done that to customers. Kissing on the cheek was the only kissing/licking I'd do.

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    Default Re: What constitutes extras in this day and age?

    to me, anything that deviates from just dancing is an extra. that can include kissing and yes a handjob. but i am taking the word "extras" literally here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by femmefatale88 View Post
    to me, anything that deviates from just dancing is an extra. that can include kissing and yes a handjob. but i am taking the word "extras" literally here.

    Thats so true!! I mean we signed up to be dancers not prostitutes right? Its weird to me that girls would even want to do more in the SC, if u wanna do more get into porn or escorting for real.

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    any contact atall, even sitting on a customer is not allowed in my club anyone seen grinding is thrown out in their underwear.

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    Hand jobs are an extra lol.
    I don't think it would be too trashy to allow a little more touching to a regular custie,although sometimes they take advantage of that. No cooter rubbing though! NO!
    Oral and penetration are extra's to me. And so is kissing.
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    For me giving a lap dance and grinding on the custy with ass/knees & snake down to quickly rub my boobs over him is all I do. If we go to the VIP there is definitely more contact. If I am rubbing my ass and boobs on his clothed penis it seems to me a lot more provacative and personal than running my hand seductively over the front of his pants. {Note, I'm not talking about jerking him off with his clothes on.} Also, I typically do the hands over the front of his pants towards the end of the time so I don't have to do much of it and sometimes it has helped in getting the custy to extend the time. So I personally don't think "clothing on" rubbing with hand is an extra.

    Extras in my book are what prostitutes do! That would include:
    Penis out
    Vajjay flashes
    fingering
    kissing
    HJ
    BJ
    FS

    I have been asked to do all of these and happily to date have not taken up anyone on their offer. Even the guy offering $1,000 for a BJ...Ewwwwwwww.

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    I work in a high contact area where customers can touch anything but pussy, so extras include: grinding, straddling (one foot on the floor at all times!), any oral contact anywhere (although I have allowed/given kisses on the cheek after dances), touching between anyone's legs (especially mine), masturbation (dancer or customer) and anything cock related (keep that shit in your pants).

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    Pretty much anything I don't cinsider part of my job description, which is a dancer. I dance. Bottom line. I can't stand hearing about girls (I really don't give a shit what certain state laws say) doing more than just dancing. I've had people come over from texas and expect the same shit they get over there from me. Personally, I think strip club laws should be universal. It wuld make it easier and more fair for all of us. *sigh* if only it were a semi-perfect world

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