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    The newbies may not get this but I imagine the vets will. When the economy tanked so suddenly around election '08 I found myself instead of taking very good care of my fav Miss D I had to deflect her requests which to be honest was painful for me and I suppose painful for her in terms of lost income. The subsequent months with no economic relief in sight and the lack of play money only allowed a a handful of opportunities to get together. By "get together" I mean club visits plus OTC's both of which had been our norm for years. Anyway, as the months rolled along with me having to say "no" to both her requests to get together as well as my strong desire to suggest the same but not having the funds to pay for it, it seemed like I was coming down off of an addiction. I had made peace with reality...not happy but you play the cards dealt. There has been a very slight uptick in business over the last few months which resulted in a modest play money check for me. Simultaneously, Miss D contacted me and to be honest, I was tired of saying no. We bantered a bit via text and agreed upon getting together for a bite to eat and a drink. Of course I knew this was pay for time but to be honest I didn't mind. I've missed her. I teasingly asked her to wear one of her really short skirts and go commando assuming she wouldn't Well, she did. We enjoyed the meal and conversation but I admit I was distracted. I wasn't sure if she really was commando but after I walked her to her car she proved she was. So here I am again.
    Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.

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    Wow, this feels like the beginning of a Strip Clubber Anonymous meeting, a place where I very much belong. It is easier (note: not easy) to ween off when the funds aren't there, but when there is extra cash in the till it is extremely hard to resist the impulse.

    I thought I had it licked when I started my business and money was tight, but when the business grew legs and I hit the road a lot...I think that draws the picture.

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    I'm with both of you. It's easier to walk away when the money just isn't available. As responsible adults we owe it to ourselves and our families not to piss away the milk money on tits and ass.

    When I separated from my ex a few years ago I had to pretty much stop all club, otc and escort activities on very short notice. A few of these ladies are very good friends so there was the occasional lunch or dinner but no "fun time" at all for several months. Things are much better now but I did use the opportunity to thin the heard a bit. I civvie date now, something I wouldn't do when I was married, but I still enjoy spending time with my P4P ladies. I don't see it ending soon....

    The FBR and Miss D saga continues. I'm so happy for you two crazy kids!
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    There's nothing wrong with being drawn to pleasure imo. Especially the pleasure of the company of a woman. Nothing draws you back to the immediate moment....the present, like a woman. All thoughts of next week, or last month, or anything else melt away, and you are focused on her. It is how happiness happens.

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    Welcome back to the fold, FBR!

    My goodness.....think of just how much more worse off this already shitty economy would be if it weren't for the likes of us diehards helping to keep our little sections of the adult industry afloat!



    mmmmmm.....commando......

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    The FBR and Miss D saga continues. I'm so happy for you two crazy kids!
    Glad to hear it FBR. Tell us again what brand of lotion you use for your sessions so we can all buy stock in that company!

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    A couple of thoughts. Its always good to see a happy smiling face that you recognize. Most people would rather spend time with those that we already know. Its human nature. With p4p, i can understand why you want to see someone that you already know and are familiar with. U already know each other's boundaries, likes, dislikes, and general feelings.

    At the same time, this is an area where I will standup and say that no one owns me. I'm no one's exclusive customer. I can see any entertainer that I want to.

    Remember, this isn't a real relationship.
    Have we not heard the chimes at midnight?

    Once more, unto the breach, dear friends.

    If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeUnCool View Post
    Its always good to see a happy smiling face that you recognize. Most people would rather spend time with those that we already know. Its human nature. With p4p, i can understand why you want to see someone that you already know and are familiar with. U already know each other's boundaries, likes, dislikes, and general feelings.

    I never actually understood this until recently. Due to heavy travel, my game was always a roadshow where the goal was to take out, sometimes eat in, or otherwise sample many different "cuisines" around the country. I admit that I looked upon discussions about "favs" and "regulars" with something close to derision.

    Then, due to a longer than normal layover at home, I starting frequenting a local club that, under normal circumstances, is almost everything I hate in a SC. Very local, controlled, etc. There I met a girl that I've taken quite a liking to and, until recently when road games resumed, was feeding her for about 2 months.

    Oddly, now that I am getting my fix elsewhere and the faucet has been shutoff she is actively trying to setup the OTC night that I could never quite close when I was visiting the club. I know I shouldn't but I have really enjoyed my time with her. All I can say is FUCK!

    The more I learn the less I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    The more I learn the less I know.
    LOL, ain't that the truth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    LOL, ain't that the truth!
    Hmmm...I'll assume that you mean that as general agreement to the global concept yoda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Hmmm...I'll assume that you mean that as general agreement to the global concept yoda.
    Well, more specifically to women and not just sex workers either. Just when you think you know what's happening there is always a surprise waiting around the corner. Of course, that's what keeps it interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Well, more specifically to women and not just sex workers either. Just when you think you know what's happening there is always a surprise waiting around the corner. Of course, that's what keeps it interesting!
    Couldn't agree more.

    Previously we tentatively agreed upon a nice dinner at one of my favorite high-end steak houses, followed by a night on the town and, for the finale, a finish at a very nice hotel. She now tells me that for the night on the town she would like to go strip clubbing in the city. Not only does she also like girls but she is looking to check out a few clubs for a possible switch.

    Talk about a wildcard night with limitless possibilities. This night will likely be very expensive but could also end up being a blast. However, I will readily admit that this is outside of my normal game and I can also see a dozen ways in which this could go bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Couldn't agree more.

    Previously we tentatively agreed upon a nice dinner at one of my favorite high-end steak houses, followed by a night on the town and, for the finale, a finish at a very nice hotel. She now tells me that for the night on the town she would like to go strip clubbing in the city. Not only does she also like girls but she is looking to check out a few clubs for a possible switch.
    The strip club thing can be a lot of fun. I've actually broken the OTC ice with a few dancers by offering to take them to a club they wanted to check out. Admittedly, I favor older dancers who have demonstrated stable tendencies in the club. They always want to tip all the girls and one fave loves to watch me get LD's but other than that it's usually fun but relatively calm and not too costly night. On the other hand, it's tough to say no to them isn't it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    The strip club thing can be a lot of fun. I've actually broken the OTC ice with a few dancers by offering to take them to a club they wanted to check out. Admittedly, I favor older dancers who have demonstrated stable tendencies in the club. They always want to tip all the girls and one fave loves to watch me get LD's but other than that it's usually fun but relatively calm and not too costly night. On the other hand, it's tough to say no to them isn't it!
    Going to a sc with dancer is one of the funniest experience I have ever had otc. It's a completely different dynamic. Mucho fun.
    Have we not heard the chimes at midnight?

    Once more, unto the breach, dear friends.

    If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?

    -- Its always amazed me how no one learns the lines from Shakespeare. I guess it is true that people don't learn history's lessons until something become's their history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    The strip club thing can be a lot of fun. I've actually broken the OTC ice with a few dancers by offering to take them to a club they wanted to check out. Admittedly, I favor older dancers who have demonstrated stable tendencies in the club. They always want to tip all the girls and one fave loves to watch me get LD's but other than that it's usually fun but relatively calm and not too costly night. On the other hand, it's tough to say no to them isn't it!
    As I said, this whole "fav" thing is weird and new for me and I'm not sure I like it. As most know, my normal gig is the antithesis of this.

    For some reason I am having trouble saying no to this one, and even a week down South doing ridiculous things to hot young strippers hasn't seemed to cure it.

    We'll see how this little experiment goes, but I suspect it is gonna' get costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Oddly, now that I am getting my fix elsewhere and the faucet has been shutoff she is actively trying to setup the OTC night that I could never quite close when I was visiting the club. I know I shouldn't but I have really enjoyed my time with her. All I can say is FUCK!

    The more I learn the less I know.
    We all learn things. It does seem counter intuitive, but I have found one of the things that works with many people is to tell them no occasional. You can't do it all the time, but saying no, setting boundaries, or in your case traveling and being away does seem to get more, not less interest. In a regular relationship the term "distance makes the heart grow fonder" comes to mind. Not sure what u call it here, but it's the same. It's the air of exclusivity. Perhaps it's a fear that someone else is making more money. Whatever it is, it does exist.
    Have we not heard the chimes at midnight?

    Once more, unto the breach, dear friends.

    If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?

    -- Its always amazed me how no one learns the lines from Shakespeare. I guess it is true that people don't learn history's lessons until something become's their history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    As I said, this whole "fav" thing is weird and new for me and I'm not sure I like it. As most know, my normal gig is the antithesis of this.

    For some reason I am having trouble saying no to this one, and even a week down South doing ridiculous things to hot young strippers hasn't seemed to cure it.

    We'll see how this little experiment goes, but I suspect it is gonna' get costly.
    I've always been about favs as my posts have attested to for years. I'd rather nuzzle familiar territory as long as I have at least a chance of conquering that territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    As I said, this whole "fav" thing is weird and new for me and I'm not sure I like it.
    Well, it is very different from the four "F's" approach! LOL

    I've almost always been a favs/ATF guy except for a brief stint a few years ago when they all seemed to quit dancing at the same time. It has it's advantages and certainly it's pitfalls but it seems to work better for me. I'm with FBR, I like snuggling-up to familiar real estate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    I've always been about favs as my posts have attested to for years. I'd rather nuzzle familiar territory as long as I have at least a chance of conquering that territory.

    FBR
    I won't pretend to completely understand this, but I do a bit more now than a few months ago. I want this one badly enough that I'm doing a lot of things I would not otherwise do. Also, I don't want just a one hour hotel trip with her but a whole fun, sexy drunken night out.

    I don't think I will be a complete convert to this orthodoxy though. I just like the strange too much. Wandering what is under that g-string, and then later getting to do all sorts of fun things to it, is just too much of a draw for me to focus on one girl.

    Hell, as I've posted here before, one of my newer problems is that previous hookups in some of my favorite clubs around the country assume that they are my OTC choice when I walk in. I was fortunate to avoid this on my last trip because my "friend" in that particular club was a guest of the state when I visited (and will be for some time), but if she was there then she would have made it hard for me to hookup with another.

    In all of this, though, I have developed enough of a rudimentary understanding of the "fav" allure that I will never look askance at a poster who uses "fav" or "ATF" again, even if it is not my cup of tea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Well, it is very different from the four "F's" approach! LOL

    I've almost always been a favs/ATF guy except for a brief stint a few years ago when they all seemed to quit dancing at the same time. It has it's advantages and certainly it's pitfalls but it seems to work better for me. I'm with FBR, I like snuggling-up to familiar real estate...
    yoda is spot on. It could be an age factor for me but i prefer the security of a dancer I have vetted after months of club visits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post

    The FBR and Miss D saga continues. I'm so happy for you two crazy kids!
    LOL Actually this is a real possibility and is not what I wanted. It has taken me over a year to come back to reality. No idea now what will happen. Maybe I will entertain the boys once again. I admit I kept Blue in thrall for quite a while with my drama. It was fun to experience and then make the posts and then get my ass kicked by the vets LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    yoda is spot on. It could be an age factor for me but i prefer the security of a dancer I have vetted after months of club visits.

    FBR
    Speaking as another old fart I would tend to agree. Plus, I really don't like surprises all that much
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I'm with both of you. It's easier to walk away when the money just isn't available. As responsible adults we owe it to ourselves and our families not to piss away the milk money on tits and ass.

    When I separated from my ex a few years ago I had to pretty much stop all club, otc and escort activities on very short notice. A few of these ladies are very good friends so there was the occasional lunch or dinner but no "fun time" at all for several months. Things are much better now but I did use the opportunity to thin the heard a bit. I civvie date now, something I wouldn't do when I was married, but I still enjoy spending time with my P4P ladies. I don't see it ending soon....

    The FBR and Miss D saga continues. I'm so happy for you two crazy kids!
    Did you just use the term "milk money" and tits in the same sentence??? LOL

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    I understands FBR's & yoda's philosophies on why they prefer ATF's, but I feel the same way about it that rick does - I need the variety of not only multiple dancers, but of multiple clubs as well. I'm trying to catch up for all of the missed opportunities of my youth!

    I did try the ATF thing once, with a fiery latina who constantly cussed at me in espanol and periodically chased me throughout the club with her menacing stripper shoe.
    I do think of her from time to time......and then I drink heavily

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    I'm in the old guy category, too, but I never have gotten nor ever will get the whole "stripper monogamy" thing.

    I mean, I have plenty of faves at a given time, often 10-15 at a club, and usually a 3-4 club rotation. Now, there are different levels of faves/regulars: those from whom I get two dances (usually VS model-level dancers but who give low mileage dances, those who get up to five VIP dances, and then the closers, those who get at least five and usually 10+ VIP dances.

    Of course, if a new dancer catches my fancy, I'm always game as well. Life's too short to limit oneself, IMO, at a strip club. Some of my fave memories are from "one and done" dancers, those whom I met once, only to have them disappear forevermore. (Hopefully, that doesn't sound like I left their lifeless corpses in a dumpster behind the Red Roof Inn. )

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