well i guess cleveland is no longer a city. There goes the economy.
Lebron James, you are dead to me.![]()





well i guess cleveland is no longer a city. There goes the economy.
Lebron James, you are dead to me.![]()
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.
There goes any reason to watch basketball for the next ten years unless you live in Miami. I'm hoping for a lockout.



Who gives a fuck about this mother fucker????





I agree, but you have to be careful saying that around some people. I know Athena is cool, but some people get all bent out of shape if you wonder why anyone cares about celebrity jocks.
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As far as I'm concerned he's an overpaid athlete. I can't justify athletes being paid as much when many states subsidize sports teams while they cut cops, firefighters, teachers, and medical personnel.
You justify it the same way you justify paying an actor 20 million for a single movie. If he wasn't going to bring in 20 times what he's being paid in profit he wouldn't be getting that money.



The Lakers will sweep them next year, anyway.
Who gives a shit about the NBA? It sucks.
If you want to watch good basketball, watch college ball. An average game between two ACC games in February is more exciting than a game in the NBA finals, IMO.





Damn I really don't get all this hype.. I'm with Mr Hyde on this one..
I try watching college ball every year during the NCAA tourney. Every year i quit in disgust after about 10 minutes. It's nothing but horrible players passing the ball around the perimeter for 30 seconds then chucking up a horrible shot. What's the point of watching a league were 90% of the teams and players are no better than the scrubs you find at any park?





Well I give LeBron, or his accountants and attorneys, a lot of credit. His choice of accepting a contract from a state that levees no income taxes will literally save him tens of millions of dollars per year !!!
(snip)"I was going to write on the tax advantage to LeBron James in going to income-tax-free Florida until I started to research it and see that, earlier today, Aaron Merchak at the Tax Foundation beat me to it. He did a nice job, but he left out a huge factor that's more important than what he covered.
What he got right is that LeBron would get a tax break "only" for half his 82 games. State tax authorities more and more are catching high-paid athletes and even consultants in their tax webs. Play an away game at Madison Square Garden and you're screwed by the New York state and New York city tax authorities. They'll tax you on 1/82 of your salary.
What Merchak got omitted is the huge income-tax advantage on LeBron's non-athlete earnings [ i.e. endorsements, commercials, merchandising etc - sic] . He could claim those as income he made in Florida and I would bet that those earnings are a multiple of his pay from whatever team hires him. "(snip)
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I mean no offense by this, but your comments show that you are a very casual basketball fan.
College basketball is about the best "pure" basketball that you'll see in the world.
If you think that 90% of college players are no better than scrubs at a park, then you're either exaggerating (I think you are) or clueless.
The NBA is a league that, because of its rules, encourages sloppy play, lack of fundamentals, and one-on-one action. It's truly hard to watch.





Taxes had nothing to do with it. It was strictly for basketball reasons. Taxes are one of the bottom factors for athletes when choosing where to play, which is why the top preference for baseball players is New York City and why high tax Boston has had championship teams in three major sports over the past few years.
Yeah it was not about money, Cleveland could have offered him about 30 million more than Miami will because of NBA rules. And he wouldn't be saving tens of million in taxes anyways cause he only makes 15-20 million a year.



hate to say it but i have lived in ohio and if it was my choice i would have gone to miami in a heartbeat. i mean purely based on the fact the weather is better...i couldnt resist the chance to sip drinks on the beach in January. lol



#1. Huge NBA fan here.
#2. I lived in Ohio,45 minutes from Cleveland, most my life when I came to the states, I sure hate it there, I'd choose Miami too!
#3.Some ballers get in for the money, some get in for the ring, some get in for both. LeBron wasn't even ALIVE the last time the Cavs won a championship---waaaaay back in 64. He gave his 7yrs. to the team, to the city, to the state. BUT, did he get what he dreamed of? NO. Yeah, he was making better money than what the Heat offered, BUT, apparently, he wasn't in it for the money. He had dreams of a ring, a championship. He gave his talent to a losing team for SEVEN years, for what?
#4. Ohioans are being selfish now. A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do. He's grown. He had to make a choice. It wasn't easy. But he went with what HE wanted. If you have a dream for so long, and for 7 years of putting your all into it for nothing, wouldnt YOU make a choice that better suits you?
#5.I think if people are hating on LeBron this much, they were never really his fan, only a fan of what HE could do for THEM,and their city.
With all that said.... GO HEAD LEBRON, DO WHAT YOU DO HERE IN MIAMI, AND GET US A RING!!
(Ignores my Ohio sports fan ex husbands phone calls, because I KNOW he's on suicide watch out there in Haiti, due to LeBrons move...yeah, he's not a happy camper either...) :/





In regards to those who wonder why i care... well i was being slightly facetious. I dont so much care for the man personally, but since i did live in Cleveland for 3.5 yrs, i wish some morale for the city as it has so little. He brings it some.
and as far as being overpaid? well how many of us would accept that type of money for something even more useless. Ive gotten paid a lot of money (well for me, not compared to what LeBron makes) for some really stupid shit and im sure most of the lovely ladies on this board have too. and if they could find a way to make millions for doing something that is arguably completely unimportant? im sure they would take it.
and also another issue is the way that mr. "king james" left. demanding an hour special to dump the city of Cleveland? You have to consider that is essentially his hometown (akron is basically a part of cleveland) and he has a lot of dedicated fans there. a lot who could understand the sense in leaving for miami. but demanding a self congratulatory special... really. im sure some can see why cleveland would be pissed off.
also i think in many ways this move is a bad move for him, since most of his die hard fans are in Ohio. and he is already receiving much backlash for 'selling out'. and many people feel he just took the easy way out... if he was able to bring Cleveland to victory that would resonate much more than if he gets a victory wiht Miami.
that being said, yes, the weather is much better in Miami.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.





Ever since O.J. and his despicable business, I hardly watch high priced athletes anymore. Just hockey...I'm hopelessly addicted. I'd rather play, than watch and feed the machine.
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