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    For a simple breast augmentation, does it really matter if I go to a fancy quadruple board certified doctor, or just a regular one? I know the type of implant, incision, and how big I want to go, so what skill would differentiate surgeons outside of these factors? Is there a lot of artistry in creating the pocket, or dissection method (blunt dissection, cauterize, I definitely want the electro cautery used on me). Is this a fairly straight forward and simple procedure if a patient already knows what exactly they want, or is choosing a doctor with certain skill that much important?
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    Most important. My boobs were perfect perky b cups before so I thought this will be simple and went to a cheep dr. My scars are bad and the placement of the implant isn't perky as I was so now Im getting a redo and have to pay to get scars fixed. I wish I would have gone to a better dr in the first place.

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    .... If you want great looking boobs you'll go to a quadruple board certified doc. I wouldn't settle for less if i were you.

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    Personally, I'm insane about just researching people who I do business with. I think that it's more important that a doctor does really spectacular work than what they are certified as. After working for a medical board at one point I can tell you that half the board certifications are a joke. After our annual meetings each year I'd have to grade the tests... comparing them to the correct answers. It was just like high school... they had to score a certain percentage to get certifified but the score required would basically equate to a C. Some of these doctors that "passed" were just scary! At one point the test asked to define "vegetarian" and some of the answers from the doctors were things like:

    - Coke & fries
    - A person who only eats fruit
    - No sugar

    These are doctors that still PASSED the certification exams! I wouldn't go to them though.

    You know what they call a med student with a C/D average? Doctor.

    When I worked at that medical society it was common knowledge that some of the best doctors in our industry weren't certified. They were the ones hired to give speeches at the annual conferences. They didn't need to be validated through tests because everyone knew how good they were & they certainly weren't going to pay hundereds or thousands of dollars for a paper they didn't need.

    Also, one of my great friends who is a doctor & does cosmetic procedures is not board certified or even a "plastic surgeon"... but his work is so good that he's an assistant professor at Harvard & teaches the students about laser medical technology. He's always getting tons of awards, is rated one of the best doctors in Denver, & around the country.

    I'm about done ranting now... just do your own research & don't fully rely on board certifications. Certifications & fellowships can be good, but you never really know how your doctor actually rated on the exams they took.

    Just research the hell out of the doctor you choose. Look at reviews online, check the better business bureau, use sites like www.HealthGrades.com. Also, lately there have been a slew of fake doctors... so you could even call the school they say they graduated from just to verify. Also, if you don't find a lot of reviews online about a doctor ASK about them on forums. I really think good service & referrals speaks volumes.
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    J.D this is one of the most important decisions of your life.Please do not jeopardize your health by going to a shoddy Dr. There is a reason they have all of the qualifications. EX} ASPS
    If I were you I would go to the best Dr.,because you do truly get what you pay for.

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    While I don't think "board certifications" are the be all and end all, I do think you should at least make sure the guy is actually an MD and preferably specialized in plastic or reconstructive surgery. Credentials are necessary, but IMO not the most important part. That said don't be going to some shoddy "doctor" that has not been educated/certified in their state to practice medicine. I want to see that they are at the very least allowed to practice medicine where I live/am having surgery. I don't want some undergrad drop out or dude with a PhD in literature operating on my body. I want to know that they are at least an MD.

    Ask around and get recommendations from other dancers. See where they got theirs. Do they like their outcome? Do you like their outcome?

    Price. See what the average cost is in the area you are looking to have your surgery done. If one doctor charges much less then the rest in the area, to me that would be a big red flag. Same with someone charging much more. Don't cheap out, but at the same time don't fool yourself by thinking that the doc that charges $2 K more is better then everyone else.

    Testimonials. Ask the doctor if you can talk to any of his/her previous patients. Many doctors will have a list of patients that are willing to talk to you about their experience. Ask the doc to see before/after photos.



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    Well here is my situation......

    I found a Dr. I really like in Newport Beach (www.ideallook.com) he is quadruple board certified and does amazing work. I emailed him my pictures, and he wrote me back last night saying he would not go over 300 cc on me at all. I was trying for closer to 400 cc, although I'm not sure how much difference it would actually make. There is a Dr. here in Dallas, Dr. Slack, who is willing to go up to 420 cc on me, but he's not as qualified as this Dr. Don't get me wrong, he is a M.D. and a plastic surgeon, board certified, everything, but he's not quadruple board certified and doesn't have the reputation the other guy has. I could easily find a Dr. that will go up to any size I want, but my issue is the shape and how they will look, I am not flat by any means, and I want a natural look. I am debating just going to Dr. Metcalf in Oklahoma as well, because he has done soooo many BA's that look great, but he is more of a discount get in get out Dr.
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    I would go to the doctor with the quadruple certified doc OR find other doctors with quadruple certifications and see what they say. If they're all telling you the same thing then there is a reason why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    I would go to the doctor with the quadruple certified doc OR find other doctors with quadruple certifications and see what they say. If they're all telling you the same thing then there is a reason why.
    From what I've found out, he' is one of the very few Dr.'s in the United States who is quadruple board certified, there is only a handful. I don't know how much better that technically makes him though, because what is the difference in board certifications has nothing to do with breast surgery, you know?
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    Ladies, PLEASE help me, give me your opinions on these Doctors:

    Dr. Shamoun - www.ideallook.com

    He's quadruple board certified, and is the most expensive of them all. He wants to keep my implant size around 300 cc, a full C.

    Dr. Metcalf - http://www.parkwaymed.com/

    He is the LEAST expensive, done many dancers, has a ton of experience, has a tendency to go really big though.

    Dr. Slack - http://www.drslack.net/

    Does a great job, very natural, mid price range. He was one of the few Doctors chosen to be the trial for the Ideal Implant that is coming out in a couple years.

    Dr. Stagnone - http://www.cosmeticsurgerydallas.com/

    Does a ton of dancers, always does a great job, mid price range.

    Dr. Whetstone - http://www.lascolinasplasticsurg.com/

    Was also chosen to be in the Ideal Implant trial, I've seen one girl who went to him in person, she is very happy and looks great.


    My dilemma is, if I stay local I save money, if I go to California, it's going to cost me much more. But, I was a full C before I lost weight, now I am more of a deflated B, and I HATE it. The problem is, with some many plastic surgeons, you look at their before and after gallery, and all the girls are flat starting out, so of course they look really good in their after photos. I on the other hand have a more complicated situation, because I want to avoid that "football" look. I saw one girl who had almost identical breasts to mine, then she got implants, and they look TERRIBLE!!! Like foot balls, and her nipple is more on the bottom, not so much in the middle, like her breasts have no round bottom part.
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    I dunno, I would never pay 5 figures for a boob job. Everyone I know IRL has spent 4 figures, unless a doctor charging that fucking much can do something amazing(like what, I don't know because everyone I know looks great) I would never consider it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christany View Post
    If that's the case, then you'll want to go to a surgeon who specifically states "reconstructive." I haven't gotten a chance to investigate each of the doctors fully, however I did notice that on the first surgeon's website that he states that as his specialty. I'm not sure what they'll recommend exactly, but they might suggest a simultaneous lift if they have to remove excess skin.
    Actually both Dr. Slack and Dr. Shamoun said no lift for me. Not even a Benelli lift, which I thought I was going to need, they said no way, I can achieve a nice result with implants alone. Zinaida has seen my boobs IRL, and knows just about everything about breast augmentation, so I'm curious to see what her opinion is on these doctors.

    So anyways, they're not bad now, but at the same time I'm not totally flat. I just want my tissues to be able to spread over the implant and get a nice round natural look, because I've seen girls who looked liked me, and it almost seems like they're not round at all, like footballs, like the doctor didn't sculpt the pocket correctly.
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    I don't really think the board certifications are the be all and end all, plus I honestly wouldn't want to go to a Dr that refused to do what I wanted. Giving his opinion is one thing, but if you know what you want...well you know what you want.

    The guy that did mine was a real artist. I had seen lots of his work and they all turned out amazing. He was not quadruple board certified though. Not saying that it isn't a GOOD thing, but just that imho you can find amazing Dr's that aren't just raping you with the fees.
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    I like all their sites, Metcalf was my favorite though but I'm biased, he's the only one that had some BIG boobies in his gallery lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    I like all their sites, Metcalf was my favorite though but I'm biased, he's the only one that had some BIG boobies in his gallery lol.

    Damn Metcalf's gallery looks REALLY good.

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    A. there is something to be said for using a doctor within 'driving distance' ... just on the remote chance that you may need a surprise 'problem' dealt with. On a previous boob job I used a specialist in Texas while I was still living in New York ... and wound up paying round trip air fare 3 or 4 more times than I had originally planned on.

    B 'Board Certification' is not the end-all and be-all that it's made out to be. Either the doctor has the skills and experience or he doesn't, and paying thousands in fees plus sitting for exams doesn't add to that skill and experience. In fact, some plastic surgeons use the 'Board Certification' issue to justify extortively high prices. Also, some board certifications 'lock' the doctor into generally accepted limits that are applicable to housewives ( such as first time implant size ), which are NOT applicable to 'strippers' !

    PS I have seen Dr. Metcalf's work and like what I have seen !

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    YAY for boobies! JD I just got mine done you may have read around here. A few things...

    - Definitely go with someone with lots of qualifications, experience and skill. Although implants are relatively routine when compared to some other PS like facial reconstructions, its still surgery and still has an art to it.

    - Definitely plan on having a few consults. The doctor you like online, may not be the right match for you in person. This happened to me. My third choice was eventually my first choice. I felt in person a lot more at ease with his techniques vs. doc 1 being wayyy to conservative and doc 2 didnt tailor his surgeries to patients. He used only 1 technique.

    - Im curious as to why they said only 300cc for you? Seems very conservative. From what I see on JBI most Americans get around 400cc... sorry if I missed that you want a smaller size. Also how can he really tell from a photo? He needs to feel your breast tissue to be sure about appropriate size.

    - For the football thing... I havent seen your boobies but the before appearance is a good indication of what they will look like after unless you ask for specific shape adjustments. Do you know anything about the dual plane placement? Thats what I go because I know some girls who have it. The doc dissects the top have of your pec on an angle to cover the top portion of the implant and give it a more tear drop appearance, but leaves the bottom half uncovered making it nice and round at the bottom. My nipples were closer to the bottom of my old boobies so my doc lowered my crease by about a cm so they look in the right place too.

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    I personally don't think price is an indicator of quality. If your boobs look good now, they will after with a regular boob job. I would go with the one where you've seen the reAl life results. Seems to be the safest. Oh yeah and anybody that'll let you pay 5 figures for a simple boobjob is a ripoff. It's a really simple procedure. oh yeah, make sure you're at your ideal weight when you get it done cause changing that later is what's gonna alter the appearance, but I'm sure you know that

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    Ok, so as of now most of you like Dr. Metcalf? I will contact him this week and do a "virtual consultation".
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    JD, skill set IS very important. Some doctors just do horrbile BA's. Just look at the before and afters when researching online and compare and contrast to see what you like best.

    I had awesome boobs before my first enhancement, and after two years they were not so good. I was still making good money in the club, but i was very unhappy with them. I thought that maybe I was overanalyzing myself like I normally do, so I let it slide until out of the blue one of my best friends told me that she thinks they dont look as good as they use to. Turns out one was slipping, so I researched the best doctors all over the U.S - no matter what the price. After seeing his before and afters, I realized that some doctors really do have skill when it comes to breast enhancement and its not all about just having good shaped breasts beforehand. All of his work looked beautiful and so natural. Not a breast job that I have ever seen in the Florida area. I went with this doctor and couldn't be happier!

    This doctor also has done a bunch of playmates etc, and there are signed autographs from them all over his office. And yes I paid five figures but after the way they look I would have paid more! But it was a redo so it was a little more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Ok, so as of now most of you like Dr. Metcalf? I will contact him this week and do a "virtual consultation".
    this makes me giggle. i am just imagining you webcamming with this dude, pointing at your boobs and being like " breast tissue...pockets...implant here...electrocauterization...blah blah blah boobies...blah blah" and holding one boob up to the camera, magic marker in hand, drawing diagrams and stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    For a simple breast augmentation, does it really matter if I go to a fancy quadruple board certified doctor, or just a regular one? I know the type of implant, incision, and how big I want to go, so what skill would differentiate surgeons outside of these factors? Is there a lot of artistry in creating the pocket, or dissection method (blunt dissection, cauterize, I definitely want the electro cautery used on me). Is this a fairly straight forward and simple procedure if a patient already knows what exactly they want, or is choosing a doctor with certain skill that much important?
    VERY important! I had my first BA done by a shitty cheap DR and it came out less than perfect - too far apart, and it got capsular contracture and double bubble almost immediately because of his work I had an infection which caused those complications.. it was horrible. In the dark club no one noticed and guys thought they were nice, but some guy s didn't like em. I got a redo - cost more - more famous Dr and the results are much better, they are softer, closer together and just prettier. Although now I think it is bigger than what I wanted, so make sure u get the correct size as well. Now one of the guys who used to get dances with me before any of my boob jobs, well he stopped getting dances after the first boob job and I thought maybe he was just broke (thats what he said!), and now all of a sudden he is getting dances again after the second (better) boob job. So I guess it does make a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by femmefatale88 View Post
    VERY important! I had my first BA done by a shitty cheap DR and it came out less than perfect
    But she doesn't mean shitty cheap, she's talking about 'regular' vs extremely expensive.

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    Ummmm seriously? You are letting a person slice you open and insert a forein object into your body. Girl I KNOWN you've seen the botched boob job photos on this board. You had better make sure he's certified out the ASS, don't evn mess around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Ummmm seriously? You are letting a person slice you open and insert a forein object into your body. Girl I KNOWN you've seen the botched boob job photos on this board. You had better make sure he's certified out the ASS, don't evn mess around.
    yeah.... of course I am going to go to a certified Dr., it's just a matter of how expensive, and skill level. I would never mess around with discount doctors, trust that.
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