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    Default Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

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    D.C. Jury to Watch Porn
    D.C. jury will judge his films for obscenity
    In a 1964 ruling, Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart famously wrote that while “hard-core pornography” was difficult to define, “I know it when I see it.” And pretty soon, a D.C. jury will be seeing it.

    The federal trial against John Stagliano of Evil Angel Productions on multiple obscenity counts begins Tuesday. Jurors will have to view two of Evil Angel’s films and a trailer for a third. Jamin Raskin of American University's law school, quoted by the Washington Examiner, calls the trial “kind of a jury-based movie review. The jury becomes a little focus group on how shocked, scandalized and grossed out people are.”

    David Hudson of the First Amendment Center says the case could be significant, since Stagliano’s films are not known for being on the extremes of adult fare. Rather, they’re pretty standard stuff by pay-per-view and instant download standards. Raskin observes that at one time, “Playboy” magazine was considered outside the norm, but now many see it as mainstream.

    Still, Stagliano faces up to 32 years in prison, while Evil Angel could be fined up to $7 million for mail and Internet distribution of pornography. The case is rooted in a 1973 Supreme Court ruling that allowed community, not national, standards for defining obscenity -- what’s dirty is Salt Lake City might not be in San Francisco.

    Stagliano, a UCLA graduate who once considered becoming a professor of economics, argues that the ruling does not make sense in the Internet age, since porn films are no longer viewable only in movie theaters. He says the framers of the Constitution wisely knew that the “rights of a minority, and especially the most important minority, the individual, needed to be protected against the will of the majority.”(snip)

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    Default Re: Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

    This kind of stuff makes me so mad! Does the court really have nothing better to do then target pornographers that make films with consenting adults? There are so much bigger issues and problems in this country, and they're going after a legit porn company because they're grossed out by it? God things like this make me lose faith in the USA....may be time to buy a ticket to Switzerland, they wouldn't waste time and resources on this.
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    Ditto! What exactly is so 'offensive' about these two films anyway?
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    Default Re: Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

    More tax payer waste. Why not go after murderers and pedophiles instead of going after a pornographer. These lawsuits piss me off.

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    I think they are "offended" because of the milk enema stuff and all the anal probably. I'm sure the 7 mill they're trying to fine him has nothing to do with it. Haha.

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    If they must go on a porn witch hunt, why not bestiality porn? Or at least something more deserving of being fined/jailed for?

    Enemas gross me out too, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal to give them!!

    The company I work for, a female wrestling site, has been 'raided' before. The funny thing is... there is actually no 'porn' involved. There's no penetration and it's only topless. But, that's the bible belt for you. Some stuffy old geezer got his panties in a wad over girls pulling each other's hair and rolling around on a wrestling mat.
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    Default Re: Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

    Unfortunately things are not going well for John so far. Which usually that means it wont end well. Interesting enough he has a jury composed of just 2 Whites and all others are African-American which may just help him, but 7 are women and just 5 are men. I am curious as to what the juror's ages are. I think if they are young, he may have a fighting chance. Older African-Americans tend to be conservative.

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    This sucks. I hope things work out for him, even though things look grim. Does anyone know what state/city he films in? That could explain why he's on trial.
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    Ugh...first Max Hardcore and now Stagliano. And Johns stuff isnt NEARLY out there as Maxs(though Max was technically gotten on other charges...lets face it..its his content that convicted him)

    I dont like Max's stuff and would never do it. But I dont care if others do. If thats your thing and you dont mind it...hey...he paid well!

    Stagliano on trial is just stupid. I've shot for Evil Angel and had nothing but good experiences with them.

    And yes, there are plenty of people doing bestaility or other illegal or at least WAY more immoral then consenting adults that never go to trial. Because they dont have the name these guys do to garner headlines.

    Moral of the story....do whatever you want, just dont dare make a lot of money or get famous.

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    I'm glad to hear you had good experiences with them! Maybe other actors/actresses will testify in their defense? I hope so!
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    Default Re: Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

    Un-freakin-believable

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    The judge dropped the case due to lack of evidence! Justice was finally served.

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    Yayyy!!
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    Default Re: Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

    Good to see a fellow assman dodge a big bullet.

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    Default Re: Trial set to begin for porn producer John Stagliano of Evil Angel

    This was a complete surprise. The prosectutors made several blunders during the trial that the Judge just couldnt excuse. He even admonished them saying they had 2 yrs to prepare for trial and this was the best they could do....

    Its amazing that with all the resources the DOJ has and they completely failed. John definitely dodged a huge bullet.

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