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    First off I just want to say "Hi". This is my first day posting on this site and I love it. I've been looking for a stripper forum and so happy I found this place.

    My question is, have any of you ladies experienced mistreatment by management or being fired for no fault of your own?

    This has happened to me personally numerous times (I've danced for over 10 years now and have seen the good and the bad) and I just wanted to know how you guys have dealt with situations like this.

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    I've experienced lack of responsibility on management's part. I don't really want to go into details here, but when things are good they are good, & when it's bad it's REALLY bad.
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    One night I had enough of working at this club where the owner was an obsessive weirdo and there was no $$$ or customers. So I went to go check out a new club that was about to open. They told me if i wanted to work there i could start in 2 weeks when they open their doors.

    So a few days later i went into work, and was told I couldnt work there anymore because they found out I was checking out the new club.....that was still not even open yet. This owner would also tell girls he would fire them if they even visited another stripclub as a customer.

    I packed my shit and left with a smile and relieved to never go back there.

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    Wow, that is pretty crazy. No loss to you, but an abuse of power for sure.

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    mgmt has stood up for floor hosts that are rude/abusive to my customers when they are purchasing funny money and don't leave a tip for the host. mgmt has encouraged me to lie to customers to buy bottles, and then didn't stand up for me when the customer caught on. mgmt has threatened to fire me if i checked out other clubs... it just goes on and on. :/
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    I've mentioned this in another thread, but most of my dealings with management have been poor. They don't care in general about the dancers and this shows. I've been fired for spraining my ankle on stage, because I wouldn't sleep with management, because I don't lie about things I offer (I once was told to say I give bjs when I never would), etc. Most of the decent managers I worked with were at clubs where the money was terrible. I've seen customers hit dancers and management do nothing (or tell the dancer to apologize). I once got into it (though wasn't fired) because I refused to take of my top for non paying customers. Another manager once told me he didn't care if dancers went home broke because he still got paid. In most cases management stinks and are on a power trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I've mentioned this in another thread, but most of my dealings with management have been poor. They don't care in general about the dancers and this shows. I've been fired for spraining my ankle on stage, because I wouldn't sleep with management, because I don't lie about things I offer (I once was told to say I give bjs when I never would), etc. Most of the decent managers I worked with were at clubs where the money was terrible. I've seen customers hit dancers and management do nothing (or tell the dancer to apologize). I once got into it (though wasn't fired) because I refused to take of my top for non paying customers. Another manager once told me he didn't care if dancers went home broke because he still got paid. In most cases management stinks and are on a power trip.
    I guess that's why I brought this up. I had a female customer bite me and I told her not to do that and then she hit me. My other dancer friends saw this happen and hit the customer and my dancer friend got fired. I felt bad she got fired for sticking up for me so i talked to management about it and they fired me too. I just wish their was something dancers could do to protect ourselves from getting fired for no reason or treated badly by management.

    Most other jobs have this type of protection, why don't we?

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    Not very many jobs have security at all, I was a waitress at a very well known franchise restaurant/bar and we (waitresses) did not even get a lunch break. We could not sit down or eat anything, did not matter HOW many hours we worked. We were not even allowed to pull our hair up..and we were serving food! If you worked at this place, you may know exactly which franchise I am talking about.

    The owner recently lost his license because corporate came in and found out they were doing a bunch of other illegal stuff. I only worked there for 2 months..I couldn't stand being around food for 12 hours and not eating..one day it was so hot I almost passed out.

    Yeah you can have job security ..maybe if you work for the government?

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    ^ I tend to agree. I worked in recruitment for a while and you would be surprised how easy it is to fire people in any job. If management doesnt like you they will fire you. It might not happen straight away but they will find a way they can do it legally - even in government (worked for government for 7 or 8 years).

    As for in the SC I think Ive been lucky Ive had mostly good managers. My current one I think is really fair. Sorry that happened to you and your friend. Onwards and upwards I say. Sounds like a shit environment anyway.

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    Very insightful, I guess your right about job secruity not existing in many industries.
    Miamia, I would go crazy being around food but not allowed to eat. That is torture lol !

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    I don't think there's job security in any field, even government. My last job was at a corrupt government run railroad and I was fired when my boss was. A former coworker years ago was firedfor blowing the whistle on discrimination. The thing is that it's hard to get fired for harassment like it is in stripping.

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    My club changed management a few times since I worked there. One new head manager that came in (former military boy) decided he was going to go on a firing rampage to start off his new reign. He fired about a third of our girls for being too "fat," (many weren't, really) and many more were fired for stupid shit. He was ALWAYS trying to get into the girls' pants, too, and was a racist fuck. His most well-known quote around work, which was spoke on his first day, is, "I'm going to bag a black chick." (The black girls wouldn't fuck him so several were fired.)
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    never been fired.

    I have however experienced sexual harassment by two of my managers. The first one was bad enough that I quit. It was a small club and I couldnt just avoid him. The second time, it was a big enough place I could avoid him until he got fired.

    I would have brought suit against either/both, but sadly, being in law school, I know how crazy hard it would be to prove sexual harassment in a strip club, lol.

    It all worked out fine though.

    My best advice is to take it situation by situation. In some, going over their head may be best. In others, just staying under their radar might be. In yet others, it is worth it to just quit.

    Thats for mistreatment. I can't offer advice on the being fired. I never saw a dancer get fired when she didn't deserve it.

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    "Federal Laws protect you from abuse.

    Just because you make a living as an exotic dancer, hostess, or showgirl it doesn't mean you can be mistreated and harassed. Sexual harassment is not only about sex, it is about an abuse of power: threats, humiliation, and intimidation. You need to stand up for yourself, and prevent further harassment and abuse.

    There are women who have filed claims against people for promoting, or participating in sexual harassment. The lawyer for these women has stopped the abuse and obtained settlements.

    Types of behavior and activities that are against law include:

    Physical touching or assault
    Unwanted sexual advances
    Favoritism and/or advancement in exchange for sex
    Threats and retaliation for refusing or complaining about sexual harassment"

    More and more people are starting to stand up for themselves now days no matter what line of work they are in. I am lucky to work in a nice club with very good management. You can always try to find another club first and then sue. Good management is so hard to find in this industry.


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    just to be blunt...the number of women who have filed and won vs. number who has experienced it, is tiny. people have assumptions against strippers and strip clubs. Plus, to be blunt, there is very rarely anything other than a 'he said-she said' thing going on, and the stereotypical stripper is not exactly sympathetic (I'm sure i'll get flamed for that, but 90% of the women i met fit the stereotype. the other 10% did not, and were great, but there is a stereotype for a reason).

    im not saying it is right, just pointing out the reality. you need to weigh your options and decide where your money/time is best spent.

    Federal law is supposed to protect you from a hell of a lot, but there is a difference between what it is supposed to do and what most of us can realistically expect from it.

    Not trying to be a downer, just saying. And trust me, I am not the type to just say "oh well, i give up." I fight. the difference is knowing when to fight and when to simply move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandy_Rose View Post
    I guess that's why I brought this up. I had a female customer bite me and I told her not to do that and then she hit me. My other dancer friends saw this happen and hit the customer and my dancer friend got fired. I felt bad she got fired for sticking up for me so i talked to management about it and they fired me too. I just wish their was something dancers could do to protect ourselves from getting fired for no reason or treated badly by management.

    Most other jobs have this type of protection, why don't we?
    A lawyer could ask for the video and information on the abusive customer.

    I knew a girl who had a customer choke her and hit her in the face. She automatically hit him back. (as if that is not a completely normal human response) She got fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    (I'm sure i'll get flamed for that, but 90% of the women i met fit the stereotype. the other 10% did not, and were great, but there is a stereotype for a reason).

    im not saying it is right, just pointing out the reality. you need to weigh your options and decide where your money/time is best spent.

    Federal law is supposed to protect you from a hell of a lot, but there is a difference between what it is supposed to do and what most of us can realistically expect from it.

    Not trying to be a downer, just saying. And trust me, I am not the type to just say "oh well, i give up." I fight. the difference is knowing when to fight and when to simply move on.
    I agree that a lot of strippers are pretty messed up. From my experience I would say that 95% of managers are even more messed up than the strippers and customers put together. Professional management is so rare in this business. It's also true that it is important to weigh your options and be very well informed before entering into any law suit for any reason. And yes it is usually better to maybe just call a lawyer and ask if there is some government agency you can file a report with. Like the Department of Labor for your state maybe? If enough people file reports then there will eventually be a person who has the time and money to do something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeakngEZ View Post
    One new head manager that came in (former military boy) decided he was going to go on a firing rampage to start off his new reign. He fired about a third of our girls for being too "fat," (many weren't, really) and many more were fired for stupid shit.
    I've seen that happen in a few clubs.
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