And your a stripper.
Fan. Fuckin. Tastic.
Want a prize?
Ill pay you. Because I can do that,
That is all. End of rant.



And your a stripper.
Fan. Fuckin. Tastic.
Want a prize?
Ill pay you. Because I can do that,
That is all. End of rant.





I know! This kills me. I'm tried of all the HATE I've been getting on sw lately. It's like WOW you REALLY think you're better than me because you're a dancer? LOL! WAKE UP! SOCIETY STILL LOOKS AT ALL OF US THE SAME WAY! WE ARE SEX WORKERS whether you want to believe it or not! Escort, dancer, camgirl.. whatever. We're all "whores" in the eyes of a doctor or attorney and ... just about EVERYONE! I know some dancers that swear they'll never escort but yet they're the main ones in the VIP room doing extras for an extra $40.. now that's fucking gross! I feel like this yeah yeah biatches call me what you want but I choose to do what I do in a very tasteful/classy way for more than what you make in 9/48 hours slaving over a hot pole!
This is to all the undercover extras dancers that give me hell about being an escort. I have some truly CLEAN dancer friends and I love them to death. Thanks for all your support guys BUT to all of you that think you're better than me because you're a dancer THINK AGAIN MY FRIEND!
So
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There are plenty of people that don't mind sharing the site. I'm sure you do understand tho, it is stripperweb. Escort and Cam has taken over. I think the escort and cam biz is just much better than the stripper biz atm.
Don't take offense. Just realized that you are on stripperweb. Being on a stipper site with people that don't understand where you are coming from can be hard, im sure.
Are you saying that maybe I should go to the other site too? Or that strippers have just stopping being strippers?





Oh I have a feeling this thread is gonna get interesting!
I shouldn't speak for Laurcon but Shasta, I don't THINK she was saying you should leave the site love.





that strippers have just stopping being strippers?
many of the exotic dancers have gone to "greener pastures
I think the escort and cam biz is just much better than the stripper biz atm
they're the main ones in the VIP room doing extras for an extra $40.
WE ARE SEX WORKERS whether you want to believe it or not! Escort, dancer, camgirl.. whatever.
The 'world' has certainly changed a lot since I first started posting on SW almost 10 years ago. One of the obvious changes has been the increasing difficulty of dancers to earn a decent living by 'just dancing'. This in turn has caused many dancers to 'diversify' their income producing activities ... from providing high mileage / extras in the club to webcam to escorting. And for better or worse this has more or less completed the transition from exotic dancing being 'show business' to exotic dancing being 'sex business' - in the eye of the general public / club customers / law enforcement at least.
Even though SW was founded at a time when 'just dancing' was still the predominant activity, with the overall changes in the economy / exotic dancing industry that have occurred in the meantime it simply isn't realistic to deny that ITC extras, X rated webcam, OTC escorting etc. have now become a more or less integral part of today's 'successful' business model. And even for the increasingly rare dancer who is still able to earn a decent living by 'just dancing', these other income producing activities do indirectly affect her on a daily basis. Thus it is totally impractical to attempt to exclude discussions of these other income producing activities.
Putting on my amateur psychologist's hat, if there are some bad feelings in regard to girls who have chosen to offer extras / escorting, based on my own past experiences these stemmed from my own rising frustrations over seeing my 'just dancing' earnings potential fall as a result of customer expectations of ITC extras and OTC escort services increased. My own frustrations also increased after seeing a rising percentage of (former) club customers deciding not to bother coming to the club anymore and instead spending money on XXX rated webcam and other online offerings.
Ultimately I wound up facing the economic reality that the exotic dancing business model was irreversibly changing, and that my economic future from 'just dancing' was declining. I then did a great deal of soul searching to decide what sort of 'diversification' I was personally comfortable in pursuing ... and ultimately decided on non-XXX webcam plus 'just dancing' at the feature level plus non-XXX modeling / video. Fortunately I was 'ahead of the curve' in regard to the changing business model and was still able to 'cash in' sufficiently ... something that is arguably no longer true for today's dancers. As such, I have great respect for girls who choose to 'do what they have to do' in order to remain financially successful ( or viable ) under today's business model.
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what the hell is going on?
coffee anyone?





Very well put post Melonie!
Pussy: I was just speaking from what I have encountered on sw lately. It's not to bash anyone ..not all all. I'm just SICK of strippers thinking they're not sex workers and that they're better than escorts. It's just sickening. I'm not saying ANYONE has to agree with what WE do for a living but they should respect us and need to accept the fact that they are sex workers. I have went to clubs that were secret brothels. Sex is not so secret in the strip club anymore! Even without the sex involves a dancer is still a sex worker.




i think streetwalkers feel the same way.
they want you to respect them for what they do...
+devilish giggle'+
IF YOU ASK A MAN.... he will tell you we are all whores.
some whores do more...and make more whore $$$
who really gives a damn what another whore does?
two whores arguing is hillarious.
fucking whores.
lol




like my WHORE haiku?
{sorry the coffee has me going bonkers}





LMAO! You are a hot mess! Love it!





Yup ... no amount of wishful thinking is going to bring back the 'good old days' when exotic dancers were still considered to be ( and still treated as ) show business 'performers'. Nor will it bring back the 'good old days' when physical contact in the clubs was essentially non-existant. This point was 'brought home' to me personally on more than one occasion in the form of (bogus) busts ... where the fact that I had personally chosen not to offer 'extras' counted for nothing in the eyes of the cops, the judge, or the local jury members !!!need to accept the fact that they are sex workers. I have went to clubs that were secret brothels. Sex is not so secret in the strip club anymore! Even without the sex involves a dancer is still a sex worker.
Indeed. Even today, in 'retirement', if I wind up meeting a rich vacationer ... spending some time on his yacht ... receiving a couple of unsolicited 'gifts' ... and ultimately wind up 'hooking up' ... any distinctions between this being the result of my 'personal choices' versus an implied 'business transaction' are in the 'eye of the beholder' I suppose.IF YOU ASK A MAN.... he will tell you we are all whores. some whores do more...and make more whore $$$




its ashame that strippers cant even call themselves exotic dancers anymore....
but prostitutes really are the ones to blame.
i think thts why there is beef with escorts.
but still....If i guy comes into the club looking for sex...hes not gonna pay said stripper anyway.
prostitutes should never cross into a strippers domain with that bullshit. its a lack of respect for another womans hustle.
but a stripper should never think they are better. SOME strippers are a few hundred dollars short of giving up the goods. some men think if you put a price on being naked, they could put a price to slide up in you.
but anyway thumbs down to the cocky stripper who thinks that they are better.
strippers are the first one in the game to have to hang up there stilettos.
webcammers and escorts are kinda everlasting....lol





I agree with this totally pussy.
However,What about the extras dancer that's never been an escort? I had one girl on sw pm me last week asking me how she can make money sucking and fucking without being an escort but then hours later she posted how much of a clean dancer she is. I guess she didn't want to be labeled an escort. I took this as an insult and told her I didn't understand sucking and fucking to make money as I sell my time not sex acts. A mid range escort is a temporary wife ..a wife by the hour, a companion, a temporary girlfriend NOT a hooker! This is why I couldn't help her. We, escort didn't convince dancers to start offering sexual services. Those individuals did that on their own. Even I danced for a couple months and not once did I ever offer sexual services in the club or leave the club with a strange man. Yes I said strange man!
Mid range escorts like myself screen and talk to the men for days even months before actually meeting them. We have their personal information and all as a deterrent for bad behavior so yes we DO have a sense of who these men are before spending time with them. We have a sense of who these men are before meeting them but in a club I've seen girls get fingered and give blowjobs in the vip and parking lots. There is even a website that'll tell you which club allows extra.
When a prostitute goes in the club and offers her services that is wrong but I don't think it's because of escorts that strippers are not making the money they used to.





This is true in a 'direct' sense, but probably not true in an 'indirect' sense. For example, thanks to CraigsList and countless other escort / review websites, it is now possible for a guy to 'bypass' the hit or miss option of going to strip clubs in search of sex with a hot young woman in favor of a more or less 'sure thing' re sex with a hot young woman. If that guy chooses 'door number two' it indeed costs dancers working behind 'door number one' lost income potential. But the conscious choice ( and resulting loss of dancer income ) was made by the GUY prior to ever entering a strip club ... thus any attempt to fault a girl for escorting should be accompanied by equal levels of fault for CraigsList !When a prostitute goes in the club and offers her services that is wrong but I don't think it's because of escorts that strippers are not making the money they used to.
Back to the mutual respect issue, from a personal standpoint my frustrations were aimed at girls who chose to offer sex acts inside the club first, because they were directly competing with the 'just dancing' business model. My frustrations were next aimed at girls who offered 'just dancing' ITC, but who used their time inside the club to arrange for sex acts outside the club - again because they were still directly competing with the 'just dancing' business model for the very same pool of total club customer dollars ( via the club customer spending less inside the club in order to afford the required spending outside the club). From this viewpoint, escorts / prostitutes / massage girls etc. were not posing direct competition ... because unlike dancers offering ITC extras or dancers offering OTC 'services' they were not attempting to extract any money from guys who had consciously chosen to go to the strip club !
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I couldn't agree more Melonie.
Fact of the matter is some dancers have realized that they can make more money selling sex. They think this is comparable to being an escort it's not. Selling sex in the club they're actually worse off than a woman who chooses to escort. Sex has no place in the club..it didn't back then so why now! There is a time and place for everything. These women need to make a decision, escorting or dancing?
Look at the dancer category on eros guide (an nationwide escort advertising board. . why are these escorts advertising as dancers? I don't even know why eros guide included the dancer category. I totally understand a lady wanting to make more money dancing but escorting/dancing does not go hand in hand. This is why I get mad at escorts. This is where I feel like they are hurting a clean dancer's income. In the club? Not so much.. like you said escorts have nothing to do with what goes on in the strip club.


I feel u on this. It doesn't matter what profession you are in.... if you conduct yourself like a whore then your a whore. If you conduct yourself like a lady then ppl will treat you like one. But like others said ppl will always see strippers, camgirls, pornstars, and escorts as whores. I guess if you use your sexually to make you money then your automatically a whore.
I see strippers, dommes, and guys call us camgirls camwhores all the time. I use to get offended and be like I'm not a whore... but nowdays I don't give a flying fuck. I've seen so many strippers complain about how slow the clubs are and how they have to work 5,000 double shifts yet they refuse to become a camgirls where they can do the same little sexy tease show that they do on stage. They could make the same amount of money or more doing the same things they do in the club in the comfort of there home.
I stopped stripping in the beginning of the recession and I don't plan on stripping again until the recession is over. I refuse to strip in a recession. I dammm sure won't be sucking or fucking anybody in the vip room... I don't care how much money one offers me... nothing is worth getting an std or hiv. I don't hate on those that do extras but I treat stripping like a job and to me sexual favors aren't part of the job as a strippers. If I wanted to suck and fuck ppl for money I'd become a pornstar or go an work at a legal brothel and I'd get paid real gwap doing it not no $40-$200.
So yea I'll be a damm camwhore with my legs spread and toys stuff in my mouth in the comfort of my bedroom. I'll be sucking on a fake dick while others are sucking on a real one worrying whether or not they'll have to go the the clinic/gyn in a couple of days. I'll be on my cam while I watch tv, bank on a couple of camwhorish shows and I'll take breaks whenever I want while others struggle to make ends meet in the strip club or working a 9-5 job. I already have a degree but why work a regular job when I can make stacks of money being a camwhore. I'm sitting here with money in my hand at 22 and since you can pretty much cam forever I'll be 50yrs old on cam with even more stacks of money in my hand.... all thanks to being a camwhore lol.
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Again this comes right back to personal psychology more than anything else. And I'll risk another personal example to try and illustrate why. In my present state of 'retirement' I don't NEED to earn / receive additional money / gifts from anybody in order to pay my bills for the rest of my life. I have enough 'passive income' from my savings and investments to take care of anything I'm likely to ever need ... and particularly so down here south of the border where there aren't many taxes and the 'cost of living' is comparatively cheap.if you conduct yourself like a whore then your a whore. If you conduct yourself like a lady then ppl will treat you like one. But like others said to other ppl camgirls, strippers, and escorts are all whores.
So if I happen to meet a vacationing gentlemen ( who also happens to be hot and rich *wink*wink*), and I decide to float around the caye on his yacht for a few days, and if in the process I wind up receiving some very nice but unsolicited gifts / perks, and if by 'sheer fate' we also wind up 'hooking up' by mutual consent, I have the luxury of telling myself that I didn't NEED to do any of this. But nonetheless I still received a 'free' private cruise as well as 'free' gifts / shopping trips. Psychologically I'm comfortable with the viewpoint that I was not engaging in escorting / prostitution since there were no official cash business transactions and no advance 'guarantees' that any 'hooking up' would actually take place. But from the viewpoint of the vacationing gentleman, is that what he was thinking ? From an ethical standpoint is their really a significant difference between directly getting paid in cash, versus getting paid in jewelry or having someone else swipe his credit card to pay for a shopping spree ?
I have the luxury of telling myself that there IS a difference - but in the grand scheme of things that's probably a self-delusion !!!
Yeah, well, as much as I might want to agree with you that exotic dancing and sex for money should not mix, for better or worse the mixing of exotic dancing and sex for money is already an irreversible part of today's strip club business model. Arguably, it's also an increasing part of the 'feature dancer' business model. This is the primary reason that I chose to 'retire' - because I simply got fed up with the customer expectations and legal 'fallout'.Fact of the matter is some dancers have realized that they can make more money selling sex
Sex has no place in the club..it didn't back then so why now! There is a time and place for everything
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OMFG...YOU'RE ALL DIRTY WHORES!!!!!!
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(snip)"So hold on to your latex gloves, folks, cuz I'm a-gonna take you back to March 8th, that magical, enchanting holiday celebrating the mystery and gift of Women. Before we go there I want to take this opportunity to make an aside. Thank God there is no Women's Day holiday in America. I can imagine the layers of irony and suppressed desperation that such a holiday would bring out. The whole inter-gender sickness would gurgle out of the social sewer grill every year on cue: "Oh, I'm sooooo happy you're celebrating me. Tchya, as if." "This holiday is so sexist, you know? No, just kidding! I don't really give a shit about some stupid holiday, you know? I'm not into that whole PC thing?" "No, really, it's okay. Forget it, you know? It's not the holiday that I care about, it's just...forget it, nothing."
But why do I torture us both, readers, with horrible reminders of the Repression? We're not in America. Let's move on with our lives.
In Russia it's impossible to avoid Women's Day. I used to do the gentlemanly thing and call all the women in my life to wish them all the usual: chlamydia, breast cancer, cellulite...
This year I was going for a clean slate. No phone calls. No women. Just a whore. "(snip)
Hey Bobby ... does Canada celebrate International Whore's Day ?










LMFAO @ hb!





maybe im ignorant, but when have the dancers on here ever really been prejudiced against escorts? I thought the general consensus was that we hated extras but had no issues with escorts, and actually would prefer it if custies who want the services escorts provide would purchase it from the escorts, as opposed to coming to the club and trying to get it there.
i think the main hatred on this board is directed at extras girls, law enforcement, and of course disrespectful cheap men.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.
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