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    Hello everyone

    Sorry to post such a negative thread, but hopefully this will facilitate this not happening to any other girls.
    Which would be a positive thing.

    SimoneNinanin contributed to a thread on stripperweb saying she had a spycam site.
    Myself and, three other girls started end of May and end of June we had still not been paid - so ceased to work for Simone anymore.
    I believe she is still trying to recruit girls, but as far I know no one else has been paid.

    I noticed she tweeted Undressjess demanding her camera back, so can only assume that Jess is no longer working for Simone either.

    This thread is meant to be factual and informative, and to help models avoid working for websites that have no intention of paying them.

    Simone if you are still a member of SW I would urge you to get in contact with your ex employees to explain yourself.


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    what a disgrace.

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    The owner of Ninanin.com is actually an sw member. This is interesting. I'd love to hear what she has to say.
    Did you at least make good money on the site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    The owner of Ninanin.com is actually an sw member. This is interesting. I'd love to hear what she has to say.
    Did you at least make good money on the site?

    Yes Malaya she is, this is where I met her.
    She seemed sweet and really excited about the site, I actually wrote a blog telling people about it as I thought it was a neat idea.
    She then asked me to come and work for her.

    I have no idea what I made and neither do any of the other girls, she sent an e-mail out with everyones ranking on a pie graph - in this e-mail all of each others passwords were included.
    She has not contacted anyone since July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citychick View Post
    Yes Malaya she is, this is where I met her.
    She seemed sweet and really excited about the site, I actually wrote a blog telling people about it as I thought it was a neat idea.
    She then asked me to come and work for her.

    I have no idea what I made and neither do any of the other girls, she sent an e-mail out with everyones ranking on a pie graph - in this e-mail all of each others passwords were included.
    She has not contacted anyone since July.
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    Hun so you were working and had no access to any type of earning page/real time data of your earnings? WOW.

    That is not right! Not cool at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
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    Hun so you were working and had no access to any type of earning page/real time data of your earnings? WOW.

    That is not right! Not cool at all!

    I know.
    I feel quite foolish as I should have known better than to work for a site where I couldn't see my earnings.
    We live and we learn

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    She kept emailing me trying to get me to join her site...glad I never did. Shitty deal

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    hmm if nobody has heard from her since july thats no good. you said she still is twittering? if she is then i guess she is defiinitely ok but just scamming people.

    what a shame. she and i got into it over appropriate ways to hustle in a club, but i never took her for a scam artist. you cant trust people who promote their business on here necessarily, i am actually about to post a similar warning about a different member on here who i did business with and got screwed over by, but i am talking to my friend who is a lawyer first to make sure that i am completely in the legal right before i post it.

    but in this case, it sounds like you got unfairly boned. i cant believe she never posted your earnings. did you have a contract with her? or was it all agreed through emails? or did it just sound like a freindly alliance of girls trying to make money together then the honestly policy would bind her into paying you?

    so sorry this happened though. i hate it when people in this biz try to take advantage of other girls .
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    hmm if nobody has heard from her since july thats no good. you said she still is twittering? if she is then i guess she is defiinitely ok but just scamming people.

    what a shame. she and i got into it over appropriate ways to hustle in a club, but i never took her for a scam artist. you cant trust people who promote their business on here necessarily, i am actually about to post a similar warning about a different member on here who i did business with and got screwed over by, but i am talking to my friend who is a lawyer first to make sure that i am completely in the legal right before i post it.

    but in this case, it sounds like you got unfairly boned. i cant believe she never posted your earnings. did you have a contract with her? or was it all agreed through emails? or did it just sound like a freindly alliance of girls trying to make money together then the honestly policy would bind her into paying you?

    so sorry this happened though. i hate it when people in this biz try to take advantage of other girls .

    This. Very well said Athena!

    YOu know what? I'm still stuck on working on a camsite where you had no clue of earnings in realtime or no earnings notification after each show or whatever. I'm a bit shocked at this. Yes the whole not hearing from her since july thing sounds a bit fishy.. but yet she's twittering jess? Hmm

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    Wow I almost signed up with ninanin but I ended up not being able to due to computer issues. Sound like I was lucky! I'm so sorry you were scammed like this...

    alexacruz.shakinit.com



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    yea. if she truly disappeared there would also be the possibility that something really bad happened to her, either an injury and she was in the hospital or maybe a death in teh family distracting her or legal issues or an arrest or something. but you cant twitter from jail.

    yea im stuck on that too. if i were you, i would start contacting all of the girls and pool together all of your written exchanges with her. im assuming since this sounds so fishy to begin with that there is no written contract, but some of what is exchanged in email might be able to help you guys. have a meeting (are you guys all in one place? if so do it in person, if not skype it) and lay it all out. see whether you have a case, whether she agreed to pay you, whether she ever specified how payment would be determined, and how and when you would be paid. Then, it looks like its time for you all to contact a lawyer and try to get what is rightfully yours.

    that would be the best plan of attack IMO. after posting on here of course. thankyou for letting the other girls know so future scams can be prevented.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    [QUOTE=Athenathefabulous;1966966]hmm if nobody has heard from her since july thats no good. you said she still is twittering? if she is then i guess she is defiinitely ok but just scamming people.

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    Her last tweet was in July too.

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    [QUOTE=Athenathefabulous;1966975]yea. if she truly disappeared there would also be the possibility that something really bad happened to her, either an injury and she was in the hospital or maybe a death in teh family distracting her or legal issues or an arrest or something. but you cant twitter from jail.

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    The thing is that if something had happened to her she should have a contingency plan in place, her accountant or webguy or someone could have notified the girls.
    It was only when girls started asking when they were getting paid that she vanished.
    I actually PM'd her and said that we had concerns over pay, and until she resolved this issue I would not be streaming.
    She never replied.

    It's not really about the money for me, I was only using it as passive income (when I was not doing my regular cam work).
    It's the principle, I recommended friends to work for her, and more importantly sent my loyal paying customers her way.
    But I do believe some of the models are getting together and going for legal advice.

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    I haven't heard from her in awhile. She did seem really upfront and honest at first with her whole spy cam site idea. I thought it would be a great way to make extra money and she even offered to send me an extra cam to use for her site (since I already have 15 spy cams running on my site www.undressjess.com, it shouldn't have been much of a hassle to add one more).

    She sent me the cam but I was and am still having computer issues with the laptop I have been using to run some of my spy cams. So basically the newer computer that I got to take the old ones place isn't powerful enough to run my cams and hers as well.

    I did have my spy cam live on her site for about a week though at which time I was contacted by a guy viewing me via facebook. He asked me questions about what I was doing and if I could adjust the cam a little so I know he was a paying member.

    So I know I had at least one viewer during my time on her site and I was never paid for his viewing. I figured this was because we had got into it a little bit. She was basically texting me, emailing and tweeting me nonstop about when my laptop issues would be resolved. I told her that my next option was to add more ram to the newer computer and see if it would run her cam then. She became impatient with me and demanded that I send her camera back. I haven't and I don't plan to. I figure it's a fair trade for dealing with her constant harassment.

    She even made legal threats and I'm not sure how that will work considering it's a webcam and couldn't have cost anymore than 100 dollars. She also attacked me by saying things like "You need to get your life together" and making other comments about me being a "loser" and being "irrisponsible" when she has no clue what she's talking about considering I have ran a successful spy cam based porn site for over 4 years now and she's the one not paying her employees and being unprofessional.

    It could have been just a mix up with our personalities though so I don't know how it would work out for anyone else but if she hasn't paid anyone for being on her site it sounds like she might have become a flake and took the money and run to pay for her designers, servers and the cameras she brought to start out with after she didn't make as much money as she hoped when she first started the site.

    The internet is EXTREMELY competitive at this point and she might have just failed as a business owner. It wouldn't make her a bad person considering most porn sites (99.9%) are closed down within 6 months of them opening due to the competition and the cost of getting your feet wet.

    I've blocked her from my phone, facebook and twitter since then and I hope to never hear from her again.

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    I would like to add that I hope that she is okay and nothing has happened to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undressjess View Post
    I haven't heard from her in awhile. She did seem really upfront and honest at first with her whole spy cam site idea. I thought it would be a great way to make extra money and she even offered to send me an extra cam to use for her site (since I already have 15 spy cams running on my site www.undressjess.com, it shouldn't have been much of a hassle to add one more).

    She sent me the cam but I was and am still having computer issues with the laptop I have been using to run some of my spy cams. So basically the newer computer that I got to take the old ones place isn't powerful enough to run my cams and hers as well.

    I did have my spy cam live on her site for about a week though at which time I was contacted by a guy viewing me via facebook. He asked me questions about what I was doing and if I could adjust the cam a little so I know he was a paying member.

    So I know I had at least one viewer during my time on her site and I was never paid for his viewing. I figured this was because we had got into it a little bit. She was basically texting me, emailing and tweeting me nonstop about when my laptop issues would be resolved. I told her that my next option was to add more ram to the newer computer and see if it would run her cam then. She became impatient with me and demanded that I send her camera back. I haven't and I don't plan to. I figure it's a fair trade for dealing with her constant harassment.

    She even made legal threats and I'm not sure how that will work considering it's a webcam and couldn't have cost anymore than 100 dollars. She also attacked me by saying things like "You need to get your life together" and making other comments about me being a "loser" and being "irrisponsible" when she has no clue what she's talking about considering I have ran a successful spy cam based porn site for over 4 years now and she's the one not paying her employees and being unprofessional.

    It could have been just a mix up with our personalities though so I don't know how it would work out for anyone else but if she hasn't paid anyone for being on her site it sounds like she might have become a flake and took the money and run to pay for her designers, servers and the cameras she brought to start out with after she didn't make as much money as she hoped when she first started the site.

    The internet is EXTREMELY competitive at this point and she might have just failed as a business owner. It wouldn't make her a bad person considering most porn sites (99.9%) are closed down within 6 months of them opening due to the competition and the cost of getting your feet wet.

    I've blocked her from my phone, facebook and twitter since then and I hope to never hear from her again.
    Thanks for your input Jess

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    I know that other girls have e-mailed her accountant and webguy, but I think I will send them and e-mail to pass on to her.
    Just something along the lines of, not being mad and I hope she's okay.
    Would be nice to know for sure that she's not sick or in some kind of trouble.

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    well after reading jess's post, i think that her assesment was right that her business just tanked and she cut and run with her tail between her legs. she is probably embarassed, but if you choose to start a business, IMO you need to make sure that you have enough backup so if it does fail then you have enough money to pay those who deserve it even if it puts you at a greater loss. because that is the ethical and less shameful thing to do.

    although an email to a third party asking if she is ok might actually do better job of getting some sort of response in regards to her status.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
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    This is a copy of the e-mail I sent to them :

    I am writing to find out if you have any contact details for Simone from Ninanin.
    I don't want you to give me those details, just to convey a message.
    If she could let me know if she is okay I would very much appreciate it, it is obvious that Ninanin.com is not operational anymore as no one has been paid and she has not contacted anyone since July.
    There are no hard feelings on my part, I have been in this industry a while and it is a fact that some ventures just do not get off the ground.
    All I ask is that she let me know either through yourself or by e-mail - that she is well.

    Regards

    Brooke

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    Quote Originally Posted by undressjess View Post
    The internet is EXTREMELY competitive at this point and she might have just failed as a business owner. It wouldn't make her a bad person considering most porn sites (99.9%) are closed down within 6 months of them opening due to the competition and the cost of getting your feet wet.
    I agree that this is very likely.

    I'm sorry for anyone that got robbed. I can't imagine how angry and cheated I would feel if I didn't get such a great deal of work's pay.

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    I had my cam set up on her site and it was on for about a month. I never got a check either. I finally just shut if off, forever, once and for all. I was wondering if I was the only one who had heard nothing from her or ever got their money. Now I know I am not the only one after seeing this thread.

    What a shame.

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    that is so disgusting. I'm sorry guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undressjess View Post
    I haven't heard from her in awhile. She did seem really upfront and honest at first with her whole spy cam site idea. I thought it would be a great way to make extra money and she even offered to send me an extra cam to use for her site (since I already have 15 spy cams running on my site , it shouldn't have been much of a hassle to add one more).

    She sent me the cam but I was and am still having computer issues with the laptop I have been using to run some of my spy cams. So basically the newer computer that I got to take the old ones place isn't powerful enough to run my cams and hers as well.

    I did have my spy cam live on her site for about a week though at which time I was contacted by a guy viewing me via facebook. He asked me questions about what I was doing and if I could adjust the cam a little so I know he was a paying member.

    So I know I had at least one viewer during my time on her site and I was never paid for his viewing. I figured this was because we had got into it a little bit. She was basically texting me, emailing and tweeting me nonstop about when my laptop issues would be resolved. I told her that my next option was to add more ram to the newer computer and see if it would run her cam then. She became impatient with me and demanded that I send her camera back. I haven't and I don't plan to. I figure it's a fair trade for dealing with her constant harassment.

    She even made legal threats and I'm not sure how that will work considering it's a webcam and couldn't have cost anymore than 100 dollars. She also attacked me by saying things like "You need to get your life together" and making other comments about me being a "loser" and being "irrisponsible" when she has no clue what she's talking about considering I have ran a successful spy cam based porn site for over 4 years now and she's the one not paying her employees and being unprofessional.

    It could have been just a mix up with our personalities though so I don't know how it would work out for anyone else but if she hasn't paid anyone for being on her site it sounds like she might have become a flake and took the money and run to pay for her designers, servers and the cameras she brought to start out with after she didn't make as much money as she hoped when she first started the site.

    The internet is EXTREMELY competitive at this point and she might have just failed as a business owner. It wouldn't make her a bad person considering most porn sites (99.9%) are closed down within 6 months of them opening due to the competition and the cost of getting your feet wet.

    I've blocked her from my phone, facebook and twitter since then and I hope to never hear from her again.
    Screw her and keep that cam. You deserve it you shouldn't have to put up with such abuse from her. You are far from a loser and one of the smartest people I know. I'm sure you have other sources of income. You really didn't need her site anyway!

    xoxo

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    What a shame, I was interested in joining her site as well.

    I am glad you kept the cam Jess.

    Im sorry you girls didnt get paid.

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    You could always find out the physical business address that was provided for you during the application process, find her, and beat the living shit out of her. Thats what she deserves. You dont fuck with someone's money. Bottomline! Punch her fucking teeth in!

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