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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaM View Post

    I don't think it should be that way.
    Glad you said that, for the record.


    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaM View Post
    It was merely a suggestion. I don't know why you're jumping down salemsexy's throat.
    Um, overall, I don't feel I jumped down Salem's throat. I feel that we're involved in a thread here that is 100% friendly and idea based. I have not attempted to sell things here, as there is not yet anything TO sell. I have given my ideas and what I will suggest to those actually programming the site for the web. Everything has been wonderful and discussion was great, including the constructive criticism.

    Then Salem comes along and I am being called out as a scammer who is going to take the money and run. How would you react Malaya if that charge were thrown your way? I mean if someone directly said that something you were involved in and helping set up was a scam to steal money? Would you consider that hostile and unfair?

    "a very easy way for some new site to come into the business and grab 50 models cash real fast and then disapear of the planet.."

    Is this a fair way to throw hyperbole and rhetoric at a person when you have nothing to back up those statements and (as I prove) they are ridiculous anyway, since doing this to STEAL $1000 would be an EXTREMELY poor Return on Investment, especially when it forever destroys my credibility. So, yes, I take accusations like that seriously.

    Don't you?

    I am then accused of selling things here, when I have not done so...got called a man, when I have repeatedly offered to be validated as female, and generally had a very nice discussion de-railed by someone who really has offered nothing new, useful or even welcome by the other folks in the discussion.

    Sure, I feel like this is not about substance, but about some back-handed attempt to shit-stir. Since no-one else has used insults here, and I have NEVER started anything with this person, or given cause to be called a scammer.

    Wouldn't that bother you? I think i have seen in the past, you get upset with others for much less than having your basic honesty called into question. Honesty and integrity are all we have in this world. So I assume you can understand why this is a bit burdensome.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaM View Post
    What is a free trial if your service is going to be soo amazing?
    It may make the difference between the success and failure...It may cause the principles to walk away if they feel that the women cannot take at least SOME chance, to make a Co-operative effort happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaM View Post
    I don't want to be on the site. I don't need your site. It was just a suggestion... why the hostility Bambalina?
    If you personally felt hostility toward YOU. I sincerely and deeply apologize with no equivocation. There was NO offense or hostility meant toward you and if I gave offense, yet again I am sorry. I do not feel you have offered anything to this discussion that would deserve even the slightest bit of hostility.

    What you may have taken as hostility is the way I said "We. Don't. Want. You."...If so, let me state that this is a statement of truth with no hostile intent. Promise. It is just an "is" statement. Hopefully designed to clearly express that repeatedly posting the same things (as Salem has done), which don't clearly address a need or a suggestions or a true criticism of the service, is not necessary. We get it. She thinks that I am over-hyping the site and that it won't be worth paying $20 one time for a full month of having a good link and webpage, if not for any shows you might get. I see this. I think everyone has seen it. So to re-post it again and again is just hi-jacking the thread and obscuring the good work that is getting done.

    So, Salem, FINE. If you feel that way, I have no problem that you posted your viewpoint and told others how you feel, and if some people are convinced of it, then that is also fine. There are thousands and thousands and thousands of camgirls in the world. So, if you don;t want to play nice, We. Don't. Want. You.

    That was all I was trying to say.

    No rudeness, no nastiness, and especially no hostility thrown you way Malaya, because you've done nothing to deserve any.

    B.

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    Bambalina is a MAN!!Because chick has to strap on a pair of balls to just get a word out SW.
    WTF!!!???
    @ Bambalina, thank you for posting....
    Ignore all this negative crap. Let's get backto business!
    @Haters, if you don't like what she's saying, go post another thread sharing your views, and a website that you are apart of. Because personally, I really don't want to read it in THIS thread.

    So....question??? What type of clientle would you be aiming for with this site? Would it be a type of "Streamate" Something for everyone? Or, would the model be able to aim for her choices/fetishes?

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    *leaves thread*

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaGal View Post
    Bambalina is a MAN!!Because chick has to strap on a pair of balls to just get a word out SW.
    WTF!!!???
    @ Bambalina, thank you for posting....
    Ignore all this negative crap. Let's get backto business!
    @Haters, if you don't like what she's saying, go post another thread sharing your views, and a website that you are apart of. Because personally, I really don't want to read it in THIS thread.

    So....question??? What type of clientle would you be aiming for with this site? Would it be a type of "Streamate" Something for everyone? Or, would the model be able to aim for her choices/fetishes?

    HUGS!
    Overall, the way I see it, we can contour traffic based on what we have, and the way we'll do the "webpages" for each girl will be so they are targeted easily by URL. ie this way we can actually do targeted traffic directly to your page based on niche or fetish. Generally, I think the overall page should start with traffic that is basically webcam client general...ie people who were/are coming to find webcam girls. From there, as we end up with enough Dommes we can bring in bondage traffic, once we have enough feet, we can bring in foot traffic. Etc. If you know the ways of the force, we can bring in whatever traffic we want. Also, I would recommend that once things get rolling at ALL, we try to get all the women who are willing to, to do 2 short vids...one for themSELVES and one for the site as a whole, they can even do a clean version for Youtube and the like, and a dirty version for Redtube and the like. This way you have people coming generally to the site because your vids and others coming specifically to YOUR page because of vids. True co-operative effort. But the Specific YOU vids can be VERY niche and fetish oriented...

    Anyway, I'm off to drive down to Orlando for 7 days....I'll be on while I'm there, but for today, I'm on the road again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaGal View Post
    WTF!!!???
    @ Bambalina, thank you for posting....
    Ignore all this negative crap. Let's get backto business!
    @Haters, if you don't like what she's saying, go post another thread sharing your views, and a website that you are apart of. Because personally, I really don't want to read it in THIS thread.


    Yeah, what she said.

    No disrespect to the mods here, but on this other forum I post on (with models, photographers, etc.) the mods wouldn't have tolerated half the stuff that's been going on here lately. Threads get locked, and out-of-line members get sent to "the brig" or banned permanently. Pretty crazy to witness the way some ADULTS behave on the internet.

    Anyway, I don't post in all of the threads on here (sometimes I'll just read without commenting), but I usually find Bambalina's posts interesting and informative.
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    I think I also wouldn't mind paying $20 to $30 to be featured if it will generate a good profit. After all, it does take money to make money. I wouldn't say Bambalina is trying to con people into joining a site, and then running off with the money. If Salem feels that's what it is then so be it. She is entitled to that. 20 to 30 bucks is nothing to advertise yourself. It takes a lot more than that for advertising and promotions. Not everyone knows this, so let's just try to remember that. I don't think Salem meant harm at all.

    Anyway, I didn't read each and every post on this thread. Is free chat going to be on this site? I don't mind free chat, but good lord it is a lot of work involved talking to pple for "free" I do have to admit that it helps me to get more business, and I ONLY go in free chat when I am in a good or decent enough to fake it mood, if you know what I mean? haha!

    How about also having the owner actually respect the fact that the models play a HUGE part in bringing money to the table?

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    THAT Busty, is exactly what this site IS about. Respecting the models and allowing them to keep their money.

    Free chat is not part of the model here. This is an indy cam site, where you can list yourself, but it will allow you to use your own payment processor, thus allowing you to KEEP 100% of what you earn. Since you are camming using Skype or Yahoo or MSN or whatever, The amount of time you spend arranging the shows is up to you. This site will be ABOUT bringing models guys who want shows and are willing to pay for them. Obviously, there are some time-wasters in every indy site (and EVERY cam site for that matter) but we intend to work to even cut THAT down.

    See, this is why I once again offer that a simple username/handle system presented as a club, would REALLY help, since we could rate the guys based on length of shows, whether they are yahoo time wasters, etc. As well as banning anyone who ever does a chargeback. If you guys truly think presenting it as a club (no credit cards, no money required) would kill it, we are left with very little we can do to increase your security, and your knowledge of who the heck you're dealing with as they come ask for a show.

    Anyway, if you guys have other ideas as far as the "time waster" factor, and cutting down on it severely, please, let me know.

    B.

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    The time waster is a huge issue for a lot of us. I get so mad at them guys sometimes. They think we might meet or date them. I hate being asked if I'm married or not, or if I would consider going out on a date. That just annoys me to no end. It would be good to cut back on the time wasters, somehow.

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    what's the time frame for the completion of the site Bambalina?2-3 months? or less?

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    The username thing would probably be for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    The time waster is a huge issue for a lot of us. I get so mad at them guys sometimes. They think we might meet or date them. I hate being asked if I'm married or not, or if I would consider going out on a date. That just annoys me to no end. It would be good to cut back on the time wasters, somehow.
    I think a page for the guys would be good, with a list of tips for contacting the girls. Suggestions and such.

    I think we could cut down on some of the timewasting that way.


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    Well, they said they can do it as a module....So we can have the usernames and if it fails, we remove it...


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    Very exciting!! I'm looking forward to this.

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    I think it's a great concept. 20 dollars is incredibly low risk. ....

    I'm wondering about the username reviews and the difficulty of implementing a system like that while keeping the site simple and clean.... also, wouldn't it be a nice piece of positive reinforcement if performer reviews of the custie were visible to him.

    That way he can feel beloved and encouraged to be a good boy?

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    Likely to be opening in November...I want to say November 1st, but I think, as usual, with more complex sites, it will be late....

    B.

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    Awesome!! I'm still down!

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    Soooo what's the word? I would definately be down to try this out.

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    where is bambalina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazebelle89 View Post
    where is bambalina?

    Good question. I enjoyed her posts.
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    Hi,

    I love y'all too...The site is still very much in the works, and as is usual with such things suffered some drama. I am also now working with investors on a new cam site which will take the best of a few camsites out there, combine it with some new ideas, and give us something that women can feel appreciated on. So, hold onto your socks ladies, looks like we're going to be having fun!

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    Alright, I've skipped over a few of the posts in this thread. Some things I like on other sites, or would like to see...
    I like each girl having her own "page" by username.
    Promo photos sound like a good idea to get traffic to your site.
    Could you set up a gallery like mygirlfund has? Each girl uploads her own photos into two folders - public, and private. She can send her private photos to guys, but the photos are protected (somehow) so that the guy can't copy or save it, it's only viewable on the site. I *really* like that feature.
    Maybe give the first xx girls a discount on price or something? I know the site needs to make money to get going, but perhaps you could do something such as... the first 50 girls that sign up get a 25% discount? Or... SW ladies get a discount? That being said, I'd pay $20 to get listed.


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    I know someone here dislike that cam site owners like me read the forum and post, but forgive me here I am posting again
    I made myself big errors in first sites I had setup, and it was even easier at that time as mfc not existed, jasmin and streamate was small things.

    First of all I would suggest you have automatic system to let pay and make appointments or you end up in the mess of yahoo and skype and pay ways, why the model should do by hand what a program can do in automatic? Isnot the software that take 60% of what user pay, it is the traffic seller. Girl get 35% only? who send traffic get the same, site gets little always, do your math. Don't save in site software, the issue is traffic.

    But let me quote this:

    Quote Originally Posted by MissEgo View Post
    That being said, I'd pay $20 to get listed.
    If you are a cam girl, it is more useful to flash naked for free a little, than to pay money. Mfc buy less traffic than other sites because have lots of nude and sex shows free, so guys stick there on their own, for free. So mfc can pay more % the girls too.
    If I was a bunch of models who want to do their site, I would have someone showing nude or more there already, and others just listed. That's WAY MORE INTERESTING than just a listing with nothing free.
    But not many showing nude free as is mfc, is that's too much free and competition between girls really. Just advertising that cost no $$ to girls only time.

    Yes I know I am telling you put a small MFC on top of your listing, but we're nearly in 2011 and to catch guys you need give something free and full in home page, or they close page as soon as land and see there's nothing free to see. If there's free hot stuff they keep there, and maybe bookmark, then return and finally buy something.

    My 2 cents (of euro)

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    ^^ That's what the promo photos would be for, I'd imagine!


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    I think it sounds like a great idea! I'd try it...why not? If this were the only $20 I wasted in one month...I'd consider it a REALLY good month, lol! If it turned out not to be wasted...I'd feel as if I'd hit the jackpot!

    I'm not an experienced camgirl...far from it. But to pay a monthly fee instead of being bled to death by a camsite taking such a high percentage....why not at least try it out? You can count me in B!

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    LOL even though I have the money I also wouldn't pay to be listed on a listing site that's like paying to work and wtf is that? Please! Any listing site that charges to be listed to me is a scam. You're better off just taking a percentage out of the girl's earning or make your money marketing other sites on YOUR listing site. Just a suggestion.

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    you are a lot of big talk no action...

    Start off spending your own money for traffic! Let girls list for free for a few months before you ask for cash upfront to test your site.

    Prof is in the pudding my friend!

    I would rather list myself at any other site for free then pay upfront.

    I am not going to buy a car without a test drive cause the salesman tells me it's a good damm car!! Thats foolish.

    I also have no problem with sharing in some % with cam sites who bring me good paychecks. It's a win win no risk.

    not going to risk money with a site who wants to take my money and pay for ads to make traffic after the fact!!

    No thanks
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