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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    Oh I've gotta read through the rest of the threads but when I said payment processor I meant being able to list who we accept payment through, like alertpay for instance.

    Okay finished reading it. All of that sounds great!! I'm already set up with alertpay.

    Busty... how do you send payment requests to guys? I always just tell them to send the payment to my email but sending invoices would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliette25 View Post
    Oh I've gotta read through the rest of the threads but when I said payment processor I meant being able to list who we accept payment through, like alertpay for instance.

    Okay finished reading it. All of that sounds great!! I'm already set up with alertpay.

    Busty... how do you send payment requests to guys? I always just tell them to send the payment to my email but sending invoices would be cool.


    How do you get them to send the payment to your email if they don't have an Alertpay account?


    I always used an invoice or payment request bcause they don't actually have to sign up to Alertpay - they just enter their card details like any other site.

    You just log into your alertpay account and click on Request Money, then choose either payment request or invoice.

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    I would be interested in a site like this as well, my question is...Does alertpay allow the guy to see my real name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CandaceMoon View Post
    I would be interested in a site like this as well, my question is...Does alertpay allow the guy to see my real name?
    Not if you set up a business account.

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    The way I see it, we cut WAYYYY down on the amount of red tape and cost to you for the site, by JUST giving you what you truly need...The concept of a "Indy Site" as opposed to you own web site is appealing because we can drag a huge number of guys in because we have so many women and so much eye candy to offer their incredibly visual sexual minds....

    So we give the listing and the space for you guys to shine, and then we bring in thousands of custies...the rest is yours and allows you the freedom to run things how YOU choose.

    Also, with this simple approach, we encourage majorly, and will even help, women who are on regular camsites to be able to use multicam software, and to ALWAYS be on indy when you are webcamming.

    Good?

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    So will the site have it's own camming platform then if you're encouraging us to use splitcam? This would be similar to xxxcambabes. With them you can do messenger shows or use their 'viewing room'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    How do you get them to send the payment to your email if they don't have an Alertpay account?


    I always used an invoice or payment request bcause they don't actually have to sign up to Alertpay - they just enter their card details like any other site.

    You just log into your alertpay account and click on Request Money, then choose either payment request or invoice.
    If you don't have a business account, and you send a payment request , the customer will still have to sign up to send funds......

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    why argue with me because you disagree, emotional CHILD? =)

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    So, I think before we add clips or anything like that, an auction portal for the women listed on the site would be great. What do you guys think? Sorta Like Ebanned, but we make it a bit classier and cooler...

    Panty Auction on eBay is where I got my start! It can be great money if we do it right. And the auctions advertise the Cams and the Cams advertise the auctions....

    Other good thing is that we MIGHT be able to get that in before opening day.

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    opening day.

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    Has a day been set for opening day? This thread is large so I may have missed it if its already been posted sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    So, I think before we add clips or anything like that, an auction portal for the women listed on the site would be great. What do you guys think? Sorta Like Ebanned, but we make it a bit classier and cooler...

    Panty Auction on eBay is where I got my start! It can be great money if we do it right. And the auctions advertise the Cams and the Cams advertise the auctions....

    Other good thing is that we MIGHT be able to get that in before opening day.

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    I would definitely go for that!

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    Yea the auction thing i a good idea.

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    No, for the splitcam stuff, I was thinking that would work for the girls who also work on MFC or Stream or IM or one of the other sites. Being on this site ALWAYS wherever else you cam is a ni brainer, since ALL shows here are at no loss to you. I mean, one thing we have here with this co-op is that EVERY camgirl can benefit from a site where there is FULL pay, so that they can turn the yukky percentage of Stream (for example) way up with shows throughout on our site.

    Also, the other project, which is for a much more robust camsite akin to the "biggies" out there, will be programmed to go fully hand in hand in conjunction with this one. So, that is where all the talk of split-camming comes in.

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    Opening day is a tough one. I want to say like a week or so, but to be totally realistic that is because I am SEEING pages be finished and allow me to demo them...however there is still a bit left to be done and some of it is the more complex stuff. So I will stick with a ESTIMATED January 7-14.

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    PS. By the way, partners DID approve a guaranteed Feedback of the money that comes in. The percentage is still up in the air, but it's going to most likely be 20% or 25% which is GUARANTEED up front to be fed back immediately each month to advertising and direct promotion of traffic. I believe the number will be MUCH larger the first and second months, but it's nice to know (for me especially as promotions manager) that we will be able to continuously be running promotions and advertising, buying traffic, etc. If that combines with you guys stepping up to really help me by providing promotional content, I cannot see this site doing poorly.

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    What a cool way to start off the new year

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    So this is going forward?? I've never done any indy cam stuff, but I really really want to check this out! Sounds like all good ideas so far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MissEgo View Post
    So this is going forward?? I've never done any indy cam stuff, but I really really want to check this out! Sounds like all good ideas so far.
    It is absolutely going forward. It will be up pretty soon as well. I just learn daily that for a website that has some complexity like this one will, the programming takes time. It makes me nuts....I see it going forward, but slower than I want....hehehe

    Thusfar the mentor I have spoken of in the past, and my hubby, have teamed with some VERY interesting and interested investors, who like the experience that comes with our "crew" and want to partner for SEVERAL sites. This is "my baby" as far as the overall setup. But we will also be working on a full sized cam site as soon as this one is at Beta level. Plus some other VERY cool sites and surprises. ALL of which will be done from the perspective of a co-op, so the women who participate will benefit FAR more than any other sites currently existing. I seriously think we are hooked into the future and will take the experience of women online to the next and more importantly FAR MORE INFLUENTIAL level.

    Stay tuned for all that...for now this is the concentration, and the programmers are slow because they are all in that ol' Christmas Spirit....I am too, but I wanna see Progress Dammit! Bah..Humbug! (kidding)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliette25 View Post
    Oh I've gotta read through the rest of the threads but when I said payment processor I meant being able to list who we accept payment through, like alertpay for instance.

    Okay finished reading it. All of that sounds great!! I'm already set up with alertpay.

    Busty... how do you send payment requests to guys? I always just tell them to send the payment to my email but sending invoices would be cool.
    What do you mean? Forgive me but I'm kind of lost lol. Are your asking me how I send payment requests on Niteflirt? I think you could be refering to something I said about sending pay to views on niteflirt, but I don't know, and am lost here

    Refresh my memory?

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    Busty, I think she was talking about invoicing guys on AlertPay...maybe I'm wrong.

    So, does the auction portal work for you from what you said earlier in the thread about wanting to be able to sell all yer stuff...pics and garments and vids and so on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    What do you mean? Forgive me but I'm kind of lost lol. Are your asking me how I send payment requests on Niteflirt? I think you could be refering to something I said about sending pay to views on niteflirt, but I don't know, and am lost here

    Refresh my memory?
    Busty I was talking about Alertpay and I thought you answered already LOL. If it wasn't you than someone else did

    *Too stoned to roll back in the thread lol*

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    Did I ever tell you guys about my love/hate with web designers? Hmmm?

    Aggggghhhhhhh!

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    Hows the estimated 14th Jan 2011~ date coming along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    If you don't have a business account, and you send a payment request , the customer will still have to sign up to send funds......

    Thanks! I assumed that nobody would ever try to use Alertpay for adult purposes without a business account. Don't you have to sign up as a business to protect your real name and stuff?

    Also I think they require a business account anyway in order to be able to accept an adult transaction because they charge us a bit more percentage in exchange for the higher risk of adult transactions such as webcam shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    It is absolutely going forward. It will be up pretty soon as well. I just learn daily that for a website that has some complexity like this one will, the programming takes time. It makes me nuts....I see it going forward, but slower than I want....hehehe
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    I have been working on a site like this with a professional webcam model, and I can tell you know there is a LOT more to the programming than you might think. (And I am a programmer by profession.) The thing you have to realize is that the reason the sites can get away with taking such a huge amount of the models' fees is that they offer some things that are very expensive to do yourself. Yes, you can IM. Yes, you can use PayPal or some similar service to get payments--until they find out what you are doing, and then they will shut you down. Most of these places do not accept accounts for adult services because of the relatively high rate of fraud and chargebacks compared to other types of businesses. Then you need some sort of camming solution--one that prefereably includes a way to bill the user per minute. You need a payment processing gateway, and you have to have a hefty amount of server space. You need a way to track all of the incoming and outgoing payments, the legal stuff, everything. So going it as an independent might work for someone picking up an occasional chunk of fun money, but for a serious site you need serious investment. You are asking $20 per month--I think that's about a tenth of what the services are worth, and what they will eventually cost you if you provide everything that the rip-off sites do.
    Remember, too, that the sites that have lots of traffic don't actually care much about the models themselves. They want the traffic so they can sell their traffic stream. One site (I blog about it at , on the Webstud's blog) went so far as to fake an expose of themselves in an attempt to show guys how to get free shows by mooching off the tippers. They want to drive up traffic for ad revenues and to sell their customer base, not help the models make a decent living.
    If a model had a site that provides payment gateways, a camming platform, a way to manage her online presense, and let her keep all of her per-minute earnings, she'd be making a killing even at a couple of hundred a month. Especially since she'd be saving so much in the amount she isn't paying the site per minute that she could charge less per minute than the scam sites require and still get more in her pocket.
    As for traffic, the woman I work with has worked on many sites, and her guys never seem to have trouble finding her. It's a matter of having a loyal client base because you give good value. The higher the traffic, the mode models, the less likely you are to be chosen.
    So I wish you luck, because I am working along the same lines and there is plenty of room for everyone in the World Wide Web, but don't underestimate either the work ahead or the value of what you will have to provide. Both are bigger than you are seeing.
    --Webstud

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    Default Re: Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?

    Well, I suck...

    See, I'm the kind of person, that as I go along my project gets bigger with time...I don;t want to open a site like other sites, so I keep adding bits and pieces to the idea until I have something big and wonderful and game changing and guaranteed to blow away the world, but now I gotta fund it, and I'm fucking DONE with male investors who stick their stupid noses into it and have NO CLUE about the tech, or even the real way the business COULD function.

    So, I suck, because the original "indy site" was MOSTLY done a litle late but close to on schedule...

    Then came the game changing ideas and the epiphany on the nature of camming, and presto chango, I'm working on a different site with a different, more expensive, but more proficient programmer.

    That is where I sit now...programmer awaits payment to do the next step, and I have had 2 or 3 big setbacks (one of which was the death of my best friend, whose spouse was severely in need) and I am horribly off schedule.

    But the most messed up part is that I truly think I have a game changing idea that needs to be done...it will alter camming in the ladies favor forever...I just need to raise the moolah...

    More updates as I figure this out...

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