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    Hello,
    I run a new cam site. You not know me but I know you - I seen your posts at adult webcam faq, at gfy, your camgirlhandbook. I not contacted you before because I was running a cam site limited to erotica = no sex, no porn stars (for met-art.com ) , and paying $1 a minute which is low for north americans (I had very few, mostly got east europeans and philipina).
    I see you're popular at rude.com, if I am not wrong such site was setup by Robb with who I used to work in 2004 (I was the one providing russian models) when he was running Camz then he split form Dan to start Rude, I not talked him in years - aniway is small world.

    Why I write you: this year I end relationship with old erotica partner and I launch ChatGF.com , it still get traffic from erotica and top models, not much from porn, but I will allow sex shows and higher priced sessions, just without declare it to members officially or erotical models and guys will complain, aniway I've started posting:

    http://www.adult-webcam-faq.com/foru...pic.php?t=3929
    http://www.adultvideochat.ro/forum_r...m-vt10841.html

    I am not meant to have a streamate traffic, but I pay 60% and especially I have a very good offer for affiliate model, I pay 82% on all minutes + $50 one time, and this is being very popular.

    Now I am of course interested to you as a cam model here, my only ebony model (from Florida) is out of biz now and I have NO ONE now:

    http://chatgf.com/index.php?_o=Model...&model_id=6892

    But except model - since you're so much into forums and advice models etc., I wonder if you're interested in help (for money - a job) as north america country manager or something like that? If you can not / now interested, may you advice any?
    For hiring models we're very popular in russia and romania because worked there years and made good reputation, but for north america we're lame unknown newbies, and looking as snob europeans who speak broke english, definitely I want avoid PR errors

    Note that we will NOT hire 1000 models, but instead a little selection, as we have not the traffic to support so many - also we can't list mature, bbw and extreme tatoo/piercing girls due to brand and style we have - s so would be quick a selection, but we want that the few cam girls we hire are happy, get support and all what need so we not get bad feedback.

    My yahoo im is: fabioanfy

    Regards,

    Fabio
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    ROTFL.. What a joke!

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    i freaking just KNEW privatcamz was VERY similar to rude...damn near almos

    t the SAME.... Minus the community aspect

    and they fact they both have the shittiest traffic....

    but im off topic...I didnt even finish reading it yet..haha

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    I didn't read the email I knew rude was camz when I went to amateurmasters.com and the website was redirected to rude.com

    I do alright on rude. they do offer some nice features if you own a cam site. but this is ridiculous 2 damn solicitation emails in seconds.
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    i did EXCELLENT on rude. shitty traffic and all..... but i had to say deuces to them...they have some undercover ways about them.

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    God I hate spam. I am still getting emails from freenewmodels.com even after I told them to stop emailing me. Grrrr.

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    Minnie,

    This was a private email sent to you only and include stuff I did not wanted to be public, like my yahoo and those infos on my friends or stuff.

    If you read wikipedia for the word SPAM:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic)

    You see that to be SPAM, it is required to be same email sent to everyone, and sent to many. Otherwise is not spam, but a personal email.
    Now, how can I have sent same email to anyone else, as it's all about your blog and your account at rude and even your skin color and so on?

    I swer I emailed 3 or 4 models in a week only, and each had different message and purpose. I am picky, I do not write everyone really.

    I am surprised especially as you seemed interested in cam biz in general, like if you wanted to know what sites are around, the news etc. - I've read your posts at adult webcam faq etc., also commenting "for how long will be 50% on rude" etc. - still you not know me, but I've followed you years.

    Then one new site opens, it care to give 60% to models - but when write a PERSONAL email to a model (not a same spam letter to 1000's), also offering cooperation more than as performer and some PERSONAL CONTACT INFO (I DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO SPAM ME IN MY YAHOO) AND PERSONAL STORIES AND OFFERS - she post such email on internet calling me spammer. So I find MY YAHOO PERSONAL CONTACT when I google my site - and I was wondering why I got no one reply from minnie - not even a "don't spam me", this would have let me figure you got it at least.

    Now, I work with models since many years, and models always tell bad of all sites: site pay low %, site has no traffic, site do all wrong etc. - and sites may tell that models are lazy and so on, ok that's even funny and I am ok with it.
    However do we really believe we're all so bad?
    A site can no more write personal emails to any model or that's being posted on internet "they spam me" with all stuff I wrote her?
    Do I have to start posting all the emails the models write to my site, including their personal contacts and stories, saying "this model spam me"?
    A new model may want to write sites to tell them she exist. Then why a new site can not write to models? I don't get it - is there any other way I could have contacted you? maybe in chat you not consider it spam? Then a cam model can not use emails, only chat is acceptable?

    May someone read the email that minnie posted and tell me if this looks like spam (a same email sent to 1000 people), or instead a personal email just for her, sent to her only?
    Since I hate spammers too, but maybe minnie had to read the email before to post it like spam (and by the way, by posting this in forums you advertize the site, would be nice if it was NOT containing info I not wanted to be public... otherwise I had posted it here myself).

    Regards,

    Fabio

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    did you really follow her here though.....

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    haha wow.

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    now that is weird. guess someones ears were burning lol

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    I do not follow minnie here, I not even knew this forum existed.
    I've just googled chatgf, routine thing search on my site weefly to see what the results, who talk of it and so on.
    And to my big surprise in first page I find my letter to minnie posted in this forum.
    Well aniway this accident can become useful, I learned of the forum and I've read lots of interesting posts and learned of some "indy sites" and billers I not knew of by read here.
    Now well minnie is still so cute but I really had to write something here

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    and by the way where is minnie?

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    ChatGF I was curious about googling "chatgf" as you said, and this gem popped up in a forum regarding your site...


    After talking about the types of girls looked for (18-25, not fat or chubby, breasts not too big and not too small [no silicone porno star style]), the following was described about a "test" models have to take before they are hired:

    "Note that the test is made by going online in a test video chat room of our site, where the admin is here alone, and do like if he is a site member, and the model should do in few minutes like if she is in private with him. So will be done some chat, then the girl will have to pose, dance and strip tease (topless then remove panties until full nude) quickly, where will be verified that the girl is not boring and she looks like in the photos (not retouched and not changed in meantime). This is much same as a driver license test, where you drive a car, instead is a cam girl test, where you do the cam girl."

    One question.... SERIOUSLY?

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    ^^
    I think you're magic, because you read my mind. An additional question I have is in the legal content ownership status of this 'audition tape.'
    Quote Originally Posted by markx View Post
    I'd have to have a "4 simease twin strippers gave me head and then lite themselves on fire" story to blow anybody's mind here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christany View Post
    ^^
    I think you're magic, because you read my mind. An additional question I have is in the legal content ownership status of this 'audition tape.'
    Right!?!

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    I just have to say something here. I really truly love this forum but the fact that it's not secured in any way really sucks sometimes. I generally don't like how cam site owners inevitably just pop in, oftentimes overshadowing the very valid opinions and experiences of the girls who work the sites, when many of these girls have been here for YEARS giving each other honest advice.

    I'm not saying this is what you are intentionally doing ChatGF, but so what if Minnie wanted to share some information about an experience she had online with girls who she'd been communicating with for years about such matters? The fact that you found us and are now here reading all of our shit, going through all of our threads, admittedly picking up tips and ideas, AND trying to call Minnie out, among other things is just... annoying.

    Stripperweb may just be a forum you happened to stumble upon one curious day, but this is a community that has grown over a long period of time. Minnie has been a valuable asset to this site for years and she's always kept it 100% real with all of us so if you're getting your panties in a bunch over her communicating to us what you wrote, then maybe you should reconsider your own shit. You're not likely to find support from us on this, dude.

    It's already bad enough when the regular guys who browse our forum feel like they want to put their $0.02 in when they have no idea what they are talking about. Just because you RUN a site does NOT mean you know what it's like to BE a camgirl. You have this extra air of "know it all" about you and frankly (obviously from reading about your site on other forums), you couldn't possibly know all that much.

    I'm not trying to be mean, but I won't sugar-coat anything either. As far as I'm concerned you're just another dick-toting individual trying to take advantage of women in the adult entertainment industry... seriously a dime a dozen. Nothing special here ::

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    Angeleyez, I could not have said it better. I agree.

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    "Note that the test is made by going online in a test video chat room of our site, where the admin is here alone, and do like if he is a site member, and the model should do in few minutes like if she is in private with him. So will be done some chat, then the girl will have to pose, dance and strip tease (topless then remove panties until full nude) quickly, where will be verified that the girl is not boring and she looks like in the photos (not retouched and not changed in meantime). This is much same as a driver license test, where you drive a car, instead is a cam girl test, where you do the cam girl."
    The sad part about this is some naive little girl wanting to get into camming would so go for this. Sorry Fabio/ChatBF, The ladies on sw have more sense than this. You're not welcome here.

    So the girl has to go into a private show with you JUST so you can check if she looks like her photos? and she's not boring? Dude who are you kidding. You're a true douchebag.

    Ladies this is another example of EXPLOITATION EXPLOITATION EXPLOITATION EXPLOITATION EXPLOITATION EXPLOITATION...

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    LOL i will never join a website were the ower directly thinks that im a piece of meat or even worst, an objet. Whats that about test the girl , fuck i cant belive it

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    Hey I am not here to search any support and I know cam girls main hobby is to insult cam site owners. That's ok and funny, I was just idealist and maybe naive in write minnie but I not offense her I still confirm she's cute, I asked where's she as I wished she offense me rather than others, now lots other cam girls say shit about me and my work, and I see you not even want we (site guys) to read forums at all?
    Wow how we damage a girl if we read in forum? A cam site is bad if not listen girls and not reply questions - but is even more bad if read what models write and wants? And seems I upset especially if I write anything. There can not be any talk between models and cam site guys, that's so bad to talk?
    Every site guy gets tons of insults from members especially every day, we not run a bread shop - adult work is controversial, but between a shit and fuck there may be some message still.

    Said that, is not me testing girls but a girl as I not even have the time to do this. Is true that this test thing is not common but I have a niche site I am not a generic site, so I have to keep within my small niche and can't add girls of other niches, all of which I respect but is not my biz. Girls send fake photos or claim have the ultimate cam and there would be no test needed if there was no girls who send fake photos and data, but these are sent so is only a photoshop buster and to check if video is good, or customers will blame site for not deliver what promised.

    NOTE THAT I HAVE NO FREE CHAT IN CHATGF, there's only screenshots and a video clip, so guys must not get surprises when book private, I not allow to preview free chat (as I consider abusive to girls and boring to stay in free chat I'll never run a site with free chat), but then the pictures must be same as the actual girl or my site is called rip-off so I've to test once 5 min before to register any girl.

    About the piece of meat, that's interesting comment as is told by why not know me and not worked at chatGF, shouldn't be girls who tried my site to write comments about it first? If I am so bad why there's models working at my site, just as they need work and will accept a douchebag as me?
    There people write review of movie they not seen and of book they not read, just by see the cover, maybe is prejudice? Whoever run a cam site is so bad, especially who write in a forum - damn and reads it too!

    Ok let's assume I consider girls only piece of meat, hey could be, but this should be compared with other cam sites, in what way I would consider models more a piece of meat than a streamate or mfc, I wonder? Because I am limited to a niche and I not register everyone? I can't afford to register everyone I decided I have a niche and I make it clear beforehand, who not like or fits simply can ignore my site I not see where I damage anyone. I explain all and fooling no one really.

    Also now I not want to spam (as the topic of this mail reads), but here I am being told I consider girls a piece of meat - which is quite a negative statement - and girls talking (bad) of my site without know it, so I have the right to anwer as a defense I hope, unless freedom of spech rights are only for cam girls, which could be the case, then declare it and write it clearly: here no one else than cam girl can write.
    Again is not spam is just answer to accusations, but below see a copy & paste piece from the "Help" page of ChatGF and tell me what you think:

    ----
    - Why is ChatGF different?
    It is for adults, but not rude adults. Our girls are so young, natural and beautiful, that they do not need to masturbate to be noticed. You can not build true friendship or romance in other sites where girls in a free chat are begged with gross requests such as “have toy?”, “do anal?”. Good girls will not have sex on the first date, we find it depressing that in private chat at other sites they must promptly masturbate for everyone to avoid penalties, just 5 minute sex sessions under pressure with no hello or goodbye. Or to have group chats where you book your favorite girl for a nice and intimate clothed talk, but get interrupted by others entering to demand sex shows, which she must perform as they pay the same as you. ChatGF is different and designed as a safe and fun place where the woman is respected no less than the man. Chat is 20 minutes (the minimum to get to know each other) and the lovely girls can get naked but you cannot ask them to touch their genitals. There is no free chat (the girl can study or sleep while waiting), no groups and no voyeurs, only one-on-one chats in full privacy. As a result, we have the most beautiful and intelligent girls, not there to just to make you feel lust, but to put you in a good mood. As a man, you have no reason to feel dirty or guilty, as ChatGF is not a porn site. You get true smiles and amateur nudity; no one is forced to look excited or to fake anything. The girls tell us they enjoy chatting with our male users, as they are unbelievably polite and fun. This is the result of basing our unique rules on what has been suggested by classy girls, and filtering out what they did not like. This produces a better and longer lasting experience for both the users and girls, who are enthusiastic to interact in a tasteful sexy way, learning many private secrets about each other.
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    Now is years I try to make a site where girls is not piece of meat - unsure if I have any success, this should be girls who work at site to say maybe, no one of which seems in this forum (I mostly work with east europeans for historical reasons, due to previous sites I've run) - but to be accused I am that worst bad pimp ever seen in a forum looks to me not the most accurate statement? Again I may be wrong and I could be the worst douchebag ever, and I agree I write like I know everything, but I try to talk only of what tested myself and not to say shit of people or services I not tested and reviewed in person.
    I not remember having commented of any specific model in this forum (except saying minnie that she's cute and I confirm it) but only about certain cam sites as I run cam sites and I obviously look at other cam sites as is part of my job, then I could ont resist to talk of cam sites within threads where topic is such cam sites. If my contribute offense a majority of models just tell me why as maybe I will learn something.

    Fabio (who's guinnes record bad guy ever lol)

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    Rotfl

    Jesus, Did you read what you wrote? Did any of that shit you just wrote make sense to you Mr Site owner?
    Proofread before you post. Work on your grammar.. It will benefit you in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    Rotfl

    Jesus, Did you read what you wrote? Did any of that shit you just wrote make sense to you Mr Site owner?
    Proofread before you post. Work on your grammar.. It will benefit you in the long run.
    I am not English mother tongue, I am european. that's the best English I can write at the moment, sorry for grammar and Yoda-like talk - at least if it make smile that's good as smiling much is proven making the life longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malayataylor View Post
    Rotfl

    Jesus, Did you read what you wrote? Did any of that shit you just wrote make sense to you Mr Site owner?
    Proofread before you post. Work on your grammar.. It will benefit you in the long run.

    English isn't his native language...poor thing. I give him credit for trying so [email protected] long post. I don't agree with the cam site's interview process either, but 'Fabio the individual' does seem like a nice dude.

    Just trying to lighten the mood a little.

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    "I know cam girls main hobby is to insult cam site owners"

    ---------roflmao !yep how did you know? lol

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    OK gurls I rewrote my page for models hoping is less a disaster than before:

    http://www.chatgf.com/upload/models.html

    I tried not to look like against human rights or douchebag but well I am still a cam pimp please understand the furry clothes and gold chain thing.
    I am here ready to receive all insults but please put some suggestions between one insult and another as I read that stuff too

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