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    When you do happy hour on imlive, you have the option to show yourself on

    for $3 extra.

    so thats 7.50 +3

    These guys are barking orders, girls are begging for 5 star ratings, everybody on Shufuni can see them for FREE, no log in, no nothing...and they are so degrading to these girls!

    This was one moment that I actually questioned myself about camming. I wanted to cry watching these gullible girls be treated l;ike a rag doll by several men, just to make extra cash. 10.50 is not enough to be barked at for 1 hour.

    Imlive seems to think this is a privilege, saying it promotes the girls. This may be true, but it benefit imlive the most.

    We get paid %30 but we are selling the site ourselves, and that is not enough. My stomache is hurting... and I feel dirty for even watching these girls without paying...

    Im not so sure why I am so emotional about this...

    but this is some serious exploitation...even if the girls did consent.

    I really have to do better with my Indy... because the more i see these sites get paid off our vaginas...the more I want to hang my favorite pastime up...

    Like there's a fine line between voyeurism, being an exhibitionist...... and Degradation...

    I need to go to sleep...

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    Wow, this is sad. I can't believe how low some girls are selling themselves.

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    $10.50 for the entire hour??? Sorry I'm not sure how imlive works... Sounds crappy though.

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    lol so they raised it back to 7.50? too funny! *sigh* this is a known thing on imlive. I question why people still work there.

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    I never understood why girls did this either and i never did happy hour, i saw no point in it whatsoever. even on slow days wen i was there, i would rather make nothing for an hour than be abused by cheap ass men for $10.50. thats not even a tenner to me

    Imlive do exploit, and some girls think they need to do happy hour to get more traffic, more noticed, and its not true.

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    I think when imlive first started they used to pay the girls $30 per hour for happyhour and none of this broadcasting on shufuni and other free networks crap. I never did happyhour because it wasn't worth it for me $ wise, but I can see why at $30 an hour it would be a good deal for girls who want extra exposure and hopefully to gain new regs. But jeez - $10!!! that's crazy crazy crazy! Just makes no sense to me AT ALL.

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    The whole reason why I am in the adult industry is so I can make more money than I would with a straight up vanilla job. If you are only making $10 an hour to show your goodies you need to have your head examined. You can make $10 an hour sitting on your pretty ass picking up a phone in an air conditioned office saying "Good morning. You've reached Smith and O'Brien. How can I help you?" If you are making as much in the adult industry as a goddamn receptionist than you need to be reconsidering your career choice. My ass is way too high class to be fucking around with cheap sites and cheap customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaErotica View Post
    The whole reason why I am in the adult industry is so I can make more money than I would with a straight up vanilla job. If you are only making $10 an hour to show your goodies you need to have your head examined. You can make $10 an hour sitting on your pretty ass picking up a phone in an air conditioned office saying "Good morning. You've reached Smith and O'Brien. How can I help you?" If you are making as much in the adult industry as a goddamn receptionist than you need to be reconsidering your career choice. My ass is way too high class to be fucking around with cheap sites and cheap customers.
    Well said.

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    happy hour is such a joke ! i've never offered it, just doesnt seem logical. i love how if u get bad reviews you're blocked from offering it, as if making there 10.50 an hour is such a privilege lol

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    Wow, imlive sounds like a terrible site. Definitely skipping out on that one.

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    Yeah never ever will I do the happy hour. PPG you are too nice honestly, the girls KNOW what they are getting into it's not like ImLive forces them. I made really bad money at first but was never desperate to the point of considering this option.

    It's not so much about being paid same rate as in an other career, but it's about simple math: TIME.

    -- Reaching 10 US$ with one or several cam sites clients: 15 min
    (for the girls paid as low as 1,98 US$ per minute)

    Making 10 US$ per hour in a 15 min shift is really ok, that's why we love this job, small shift = big money (even if we do it full time, that's still comparatively bigger money in a few minutes than other jobs)

    But 10 US$ for A FULL HOUR showing off your sexy body to broke, cheap men... God, no.

    If you do this simple math, you know that no girls would accept it.

    My guess is girls who still do it :
    - might be in countries where 10 US$ is a lot ? Currency-wise I mean
    - do it once in a really long while to boost their visibility to new guys... but these guys are cheap.

    Meh. Don't ask me, I don't get it.

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    Are the guys paying are normal rates to get into happy hour or discounted. I'm not offering it regardless but just curious how much there raking it, minus our 10.50 cut of course lol

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    10 bucks? For an hour? Really? And girls are actually doing this? I'm confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missginger View Post
    Are the guys paying are normal rates to get into happy hour or discounted. I'm not offering it regardless but just curious how much there raking it, minus our 10.50 cut of course lol
    I am not sure, I think they pay discounted rate of 1 or 1,50 US$ per minute without counting that happy hours cam girls are being watched for free on an other webcam site network in order to promote ImLive as PPG mentionned in her post.

    It really doesn't worth it, imho.

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    Of course being male and curious, I checked the site out. Did not have to pay anything. The girls appear to be directed by one individual and not the group. The one I watched did anything the director told her to. Toys, fingers, fisting, anal,dp.......anything. I believe the only one paying are those that choose to be the director. I don't get it myself. Maybe guys go private after though I don't see a reason they would need to. Maybe the ladies are after future business?

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    its a discounted rate or credits to view if an imlive member through Imlive, not sure on other sites its broadcasted on.

    As ive seen this brought up before i shall remind you. 1 credit=$1 yes? well if your english, 1 credit=£1. what happend to the exchange rate? it dont exsist on this site. so if the viewers paying are english, Imlive get EVEN more. the girls get a % of the credit in $, so the £ is totally ruled out.

    There is one director every 2 mins, guys can suggest to the diretor what he should ask her to do, but she only has to do what the director at the time wants her to do.

    that was my understanding when i was on imlive, maybe its changed now. either way, its still a bag of wank, they take the piss out of the girls on that site, but because theres so many models willing to do so much for lil money, they get away with it.

    jess xx

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    wow that's just disgusting and sad.

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    Edited to remove my own misunderstanding of how HH works. My apologies.

    Unfortunately, in this business there will always be girls who are willing to do anything and everything for a few bucks, but that doesn't mean it's a condition of working for that site. I stay busy as hell on there, and have relatively few problems. It's certainly been a better experience than LiveJasmin and some of the other sites I've tried.
    Last edited by Andygirl; 08-25-2010 at 07:42 PM.

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    I'm pretty sure that they don't get any 30% - just the $10.
    From the FAQs section of the site:
    "Once you have reached the 90 minute mark, you may offer your Guests an hourly session of Video Chat at a reduced rate. You will be paid a flat fee of $7.50 per hour long Happy Hour, even if no one enters your Video Chat room! If you are a Hall of Fame Host, you will be paid a flat fee of $15 for one hour."

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    Edited to remove errors

    I'm sorry for saying it was the other way. I guess that's the only way it would ever make sense to me, so that's why I thought that. Crazy what people will do for so little.
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    I'm not trying to argue with you, but I really really don't think that's right. That's why it it says you get a flat rate. I've been with Imlive since 2004 and never heard them change it so that you get a % on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    You get 30% of 1.48, or whatever the per minute charge is for Happy Hour in addition to the 7.50. That 1.48 is the reduced rate they are referring to.
    If this is the case then it isn't THAT terrible. Say you have atleast 1 person paying the entire hour you'd be making $33.90 per hour (without the extra $3 for shufuni). Another $26.40 for each additional person that stays the entire hour.


    Of course being male and curious, I checked the site out. Did not have to pay anything. The girls appear to be directed by one individual and not the group. The one I watched did anything the director told her to. Toys, fingers, fisting, anal,dp.......anything. I believe the only one paying are those that choose to be the director. I don't get it myself. Maybe guys go private after though I don't see a reason they would need to. Maybe the ladies are after future business?
    If this is the case, if they have 1 director the full hour they still get the $33.90; to some that means $200+ a day/$1000 a week. I imagine it would be EXTREMELY exhausting though. My lady parts kinda cringes at the thought of it.

    I've never hosted or even checked out imlive, so I'm not sure how harsh the clientele is, but I could see how a guaranteed $34 an hour would be attractive to a new girl who doesn't realize you don't need to work that hard.

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    Actually - it would be really good if it paid 30% on top of the flat rate. For example, I went on to Shufuni just now and clicked on one of the happy hour girls, she was just starting and already had 30 viewers. That would make 1 hour very worth it. Unfortunately, I don't think it works like that.

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    Ok I just checked out shufuni as well...

    The girl seemed to ignore normal guys (so not getting paid from those!).... A "Director" would pop in and ask to see something, she'd give a quick pussy show and he'd leave (3 mins?).. Then she'd point the cam back at her face and a pop up would ask someone to be the director. Rinse, Repeat. Was almost back to back so I imagine it would be around $30/hour (minus a few mins between directors) + shufumi = $33 (maybe around $5 less if there's a bit more of lag between directors).

    If no one directs they still make their $7.50/$10 an hour for pointing the camera at their face.


    Again, far from terrible, and not even as exhausting as I imagined. BUT DO THEY REALLY GET 30% FROM THE DIRECTOR??? If not I don't understand WHY they would do this.

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    I used to work imlive, haven't been on there for a while since traffic there has been really slow for me. I've never done happy hour myself because it's too little money offered plus I've heard guys will rate you low and if you have a high rating it lowers your placement on the site when you get rated low.

    I took a look at the FAQ and it seems like it's simply a way to promote yourself. You only get that flat rate and that's all.

    I don't see how it would be worth it. Seems to me it'd just attract guys wanting cheap shows and not really regulars who could pay full price (they pay 1.45/min).

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