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    Default Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    You're not old enough to get silicone in the states unless it's reconstructive surgery. Honestly, I'd get my boobs done in Canada or fly to Tijuana to get them done....you have such a small frame, saline will give you a 'fake' look opposed to a real one.

    Over the muscle means less risk of muscle flex deformity, but I've read that it can increase the odds of bottoming out. Under the muscle would be the way to go for a natural appearance. It's more painful (from what I've heard) but it will look better on you because you have so little tissue.

    If I were you I wouldn't go over 300. I'm usually the one encouraging people to go bigger, but I think for your first BA staying in the 200's would be sufficient, as you're so petite. 250 would make a noticeable difference.

    The profile is decided after taking into account a combination of ribcage, natural breast diameter and breast tissue. I HAD to go low profile because I have a big rib-cage. I let my doctor decide that one... another girl could help you out more with that.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    Thanks so much for the help!

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    Personally I wouldnt do overs unless you have a meaty ribcage. You will end up with rippling. I have dual plane and I have no deformity on flexion. The profile will depend on your ribcage and the size you want. For size I wanted my doc had to do HP; so they definitely stick out but I really had no option here. I would have had to go smaller otherwise and I actually dont mind the projection I have. I was a bit scared at first but now that things are settling I like my HPs. I also would def go with silicone if you can. My doc practiced in the states for a lot of years so he actually prefers saline but I asked for silicone and he did it for me. Pretty much all the implants done here in Australia are silicone now.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    ^ I wouldn't go with a doctor who is doing something illegal like that. Where would it put it (from a legal standpoint) if something went wrong? Just not a good idea.



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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    My suggestion: Get it done in Canada, around 300cc or under, just enough to avoid the dreaded gap. unders. Why? There are very good doctors in Vancouver and Toronto who do silicone. Too small of an implant would cause a bigger gap in the middle due to the small diameter. and overs would even make the gap Tori Spelling like.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    I would suggest under the muscle and around 300cc. I have 300cc and I went from a full a to a small D but just looking at me everyone thinks I'm a C. I'm 5'1 105lbs.

    As for rippling, you really can't do much to prevent it except get silicone. If you get saline you'll probably experience rippling because you don't have much boob tissue to cover them.

    Also if you want a really natural look I wouldn't suggest HP, I'd go with mods. I feel like mods get a better natural slope to them like I see with mine, but I don't know if my doctor did that or the implant settled like that.

    I've attached two pics so you can see what a 300cc implant looks like on someone with similar stats.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    Thanks for the picture post Star, we're the same in height and weight, so that helped a lot. I could never find any pictures of before and after with girls around my size. I was thinking 300cc is too much, was going for 250-275.. but 300ccs it looks great! And I seriously would not have guessed you had a boob job!!!

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    agreed that you'd wind up with a better result with mod profile or even low profile implants with a higher cc rating versus 300cc high profiles. Small cc rating high profile implants tend to leave a wide gap where your cleavage should be !

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    agreed that you'd wind up with a better result with mod profile or even low profile implants with a higher cc rating versus 300cc high profiles. Small cc rating high profile implants tend to leave a wide gap where your cleavage should be !
    Thank you! That was very informative. I am also wondering. Since I am under the age of 22 would I have trouble getting silicon from a doctor in the us?

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    ^^^ as I understand it, the FDA regulations say that US doctors should not use silicone as first time implants for patients who aren't over the age of 21. However, there is a fairly long list of FDA 'criteria' that legally allows a US doctor to use silicone implants to deal with potential complications or probable poor results if saline implants were used ... such as thin breast skin, tubular breast shape, and a host of others. Thus all you need do is hook up with a US doctor who is willing to make an official judgement that your skin breast skin or whatever makes you a suitable candidate for first time silicone implants.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    Kisca - If Melonie is indeed right and thin breast skin is a criteria for getting silicon under the age of 21 then I can message you the names of some doctors I consulted with. I had Tuberous breasts and was able to get Silicone at 17, and only spoke to those who would do Silicone. If they approved it for me they'll probably approve it for you.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    I second what Melanie said. Don't go too small and get the dreaded "refund gap." It will look like a half lemon on one side and a half lemon on the other. You want to be able to make cleavage, right?

    I'd go a little bigger. 400-450cc's would be hot on your frame. Also consider that silicone is "softer" and projects less than saline. You can get more cc's with silicone and it won't look like balloons.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    I contacted a few doctors in the USA.. and they said they will be able to do"silicone gel implants" ... Please correct me if I am wrong.. Are these the gummybear/ cogels now? I told them Im specifally looking for those... and found doctors who do them. ..says on their site saline or cohesive silicone gel. But the girl wrote silicone gel implants in the email.. Can someone please explain

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    ^ ya all silicone gel is "cohesive" now. So I think thats why they dont necessarily say "cohesive or gummy bear" because its assumed. There are different levels of cohesiveness though. Mine are cohesive I (mentor) which is the squishiest.

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    oh also your doc will tell you what size is best. Mine are only 350 and that is the biggest that would fit in the space - even with high profile. I have side boob and cleavage. I have one finger space between my boobs with no bra on and they come 2-3 fingers out past the sides! I talked to a girl I work with last night who does look that much bigger than me but my boobs look wayyyyyyyy bigger than hers and mine are a lot closer together and hers are 500cc so it really depends on your chest wall what size is going to look best. Im not that tiny (5'7" - 120lbs) but my rib cage is really small for my size.

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    Default Re: Implants; l/w/h profile and over/under muscle question

    I have about the same stats. High profiles will look coney. Lots of girls with them got them re done. Go for moderates. They give a tiny frame a good amount of projection and width. I have 375cc under, moderate silicone. I went from an A to a big C small D. Measure got width of your breast and then find the implant that fits the width a high, moderate, round will have different amounts of ccs and then choose from there about what size. If you go for overs, the width of implant can be smaller because its not underneath the breast width. This actually takes away from the tennis ball effect. Go too small and boobs are lost.

    If you aren't the proper age to get silicone in the states, wait. You are young once and play up the little girl look ad long as possible. Save some money and make sure you have enough to take off a good amount of time. I waited til 29 to get them. done. I could compete with the left small boobs of the 18-24 year olds :*(

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    Dont forgot the end product also has a lot to do with how your boobs looked before. Try to find before pics of people who have the same boobs as yours and see what their after photos look like.

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    ^^^^ totally agree! I have asymmetrical boobies far a part and they are still far away from eachother. One's rounder and one's bigger. I don't mind but you figure that it will go away after surgery but it doesn't.

    Oh and it is really hard to get a nice tear drop with small boobs. Not enough skin and tissue. Boobs will always be a bit rounder, firmer and higher on a small frame with less boob to begin with.

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    I am shocked!!! I already had 4 virutal consults... ALL of them said around 250 - 280!! That would make a small C... and I thought of 300cc's min! Now I have no clue what a "small" or a "big" C is.. Im going to try for 300 still.. diff of 20-50 cc is not that big, so I dont see a problem.

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    ^^^ did you tell them that you are an exotic dancer thus 'bigger tits means bigger tips' ? If not, then most US plastic surgeons will resort to the 'housewife' speech. This A. reduces risk of complications or complaints / lawsuits from housewives, and more importantly B. sets the stage for a redo to 400+cc within six months or a year ( thus higher earnings for the doctor ! ).

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    Make rice sacks with the implant dimensions and ccs and shove them in a really tight fitting sports bra. It will give you a basic guideline.
    Ask the docs for the dimension sheet of implants so you can further discuss options such as round, moderate, high profile. Make the decision with what you want then ask the doc for advice....

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    Oh btw 280 would be the largest without cutting your medial portion (the muscle between cleavage). Some doctors don't do this due to loafing problems (uniboob) and loss of muscle movement.

    280 ccs round is the same width as 375 ccs moderate and 450 high profile. The width on all of these are practically the same, however the projection varies. Like one is 2", 3.5", etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ did you tell them that you are an exotic dancer thus 'bigger tits means bigger tips' ? If not, then most US plastic surgeons will resort to the 'housewife' speech. This A. reduces risk of complications or complaints / lawsuits from housewives, and more importantly B. sets the stage for a redo to 400+cc within six months or a year ( thus higher earnings for the doctor ! ).
    I agree. I also gave my doctor the "Im a dancer so you better not fuck this up" talk. When he said my before boobs were one of the best and therefore my afters would be "one of the best", I said, "you mean THE best right?"

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