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    I am sure those of you who have found yourselves trapped in this epassporte scandal have been doing alot of thinking (like me) about your future plans to receive pay. I have updated all of my information with the sites I am on to receive checks from now on. I have decided that I am not going to use Epassportes services in the future even if they do rectify this issue.

    However, checks will take forever to arrive and I do not want to receive checks forever! I always loved the convenience of my epass card. I know there are cam companies that pay models out via payoneer and rev up cards. Well I would like to sign up to these sites as soon as possible to see if this can be a good alternative. After this epassporte dillema I am leary using any service like this but there are alternatives and I would like to look into them.

    I know www.camworld.com (privatecamz) uses a rev up card as an alternative

    www.ifriends.com also has an Alternative...I am not sure of the name at the moment.

    Has anyone used the above sites and their alternative payment methods? Are there other sites out there who pay out with cards like the rev up card or payoneer that I havent listed?

    I just wanted to suggest this to everyone who may be looking for an alternative while epass resolves their problem. The sites I am on only use epassporte/check/wire for now so I will have to wait and see what happens with epass and accept checks for the meantime. Unfortunately I will no longer be using epassporte wether they resolve the problem or not

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    Default Re: Epass dillema.....Payoneer instead???

    I use the ifriends card
    the fees are higher than epass (and are particularly high for international users like me) but apart from that it works pretty much like epass. I'm pretty sure that the ifriends card (webpowerfx) is run by ifriends as when ifriends site was down a few weeks ago the webpowerfx site was down too and they directly link to each other, so not sure that the ifriends card will ever be usable by other sites to pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    However, checks will take forever to arrive and I do not want to receive checks forever! I always loved the convenience of my epass card.


    When you log into your ePassporte account, somewhere on your profile page it will tell you that right now, any funds sent to your account will automatically go to your 'Wallet'. This is a good thing, because when money is in your Wallet, you can then transfer the money to your bank account. I think the transfer may take a couple days (same deal with PayPal, which usually takes me 2 business days to see the funds in my bank account). I didn't change anything with my payment method on the cam sites, because I'm gonna do the Wallet-to-Bank Account thing. It'll suck a little to not get my money the same day, as I normally do, but for me this will be better than waiting for a paper check. And I agree, I always loved the convenience of my ePassporte Visa Electron card too. One thing that kinda irritates me about this is that prior to this happening, they had JUST taken out $20 automatically from my ImLive.com payment to cover the fee for the new Visa card I was supposed to get in the mail. Would be nice to have that $20 back, but oh well...

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    Live Jasmine uses Payoneer. They don't pay out until you reach a quota of $100. I had under $100 sitting in my account for months. Payoneer sent me an e-mail stating that they were cancelling my account for inactivity. I wanted my money from Live Jasmine, but almost gave up on camming (thought it was me...until I found this site!) Anyway, I logged into my Payoneer account and tried to transfer $25 from my own personal debit card onto it...to keep it active and keep it open. They wouldn't accept it. I wrote Payoneer an e-mail and explained that I was still employed at LJ, and to please keep my account open. They did, they sent me a new card, customer service was quick and also very understanding.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, transferring money from a personal account doesn't fly with Payoneer. As far as receiving payment on it from another business, other than LJ...I'm not sure about. I'd be curious to know as well.

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    Girls are all obviously asking to sites how to be paid if epassporte is died and not resumes, and payoneer seems the only alternative now.

    Only livejasmin supports payoneer since years but was not popular because everyone used epass instead - now everyone want payoneer, models say me cma sites promise will support payoneer, and they're flooded of requests, let's see if payoneer will be able to handle this - we as a site asked them to open an account weeks ago and they had not yet done it, so I may expect sites asking now in this flood of requests will take a month or more to setup then card to reach models etc. I expect no one getting payoneer at home before than 2 months except livejasmin models.

    Now it is important to see what will be of epassporte as no one really knows - not epassporte knows themselves as this is VISA to decide and they're happily in week-end break not caring to any of us or to our funds locked - some cam sites have $200,000 or more locked in their epass biz account too, and I have girls crying to me of $900 to $2000 locked in their epass and asking if I can re-send in western union and so on.
    All news in forums is just sci-fi and rumors and it only counts what epass will say officially tuesday and later, and of course facts we will see, so I advice to forget of epass for a week then use your time to read news when there are official news, all rest is bullshit.
    So I just wait and tell any girl who cry to wait, and that we will support payoneer and even do western union emergency this month if needed.

    I hope epass unlocks and the funds in it as well (for sites and models - so no one lose $$ but there only delay), and even if it will work again is good that everyone will have a second option active just in case, which for what I hear around is payoneer mostly.

    RevUp card seems it not accepts new accounts so I not know if it is in biz still, if they are in biz would be good moment to contact the cam sites to cash on the epass drama.

    Ifriends card power thing is their own and maybe would be best way a site releases own cards (so is not a third party to freeze your biz while you're innocent) but is not easy or cheap - cam sites are busy enough to run cam site and manage cards is quite a burden and banks hate you because you do porn and send $$ in strange countries - they will never help you esp those bank and visa directors who go in church all sundays.

    Again I hope it all solve - and if not I hope people involved will help each other - peace and love from a dirty pimp

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    Don't let them fool you...just because they go to church every Sunday doesn't mean shit in my book LoL! Some of the most crooked, lying hypocrites in the world go to church every week. There's a big difference between being religious and being spiritual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielle_xoxo View Post
    Don't let them fool you...just because they go to church every Sunday doesn't mean shit in my book LoL! Some of the most crooked, lying hypocrites in the world go to church every week. There's a big difference between being religious and being spiritual!
    Ah sure best cam customers - who spend more $$ - are guys who go in church with wife and kids, I can confirm this by statistics, they have extra horny thing by feel it is a sin and will burn in hell and such.
    Atheists actually care not so much to sex as is not a taboo or special stuff, simply consider it a normal thing so not worth spend big $$ and this is not good for cam biz.

    I was referring simply to the fact when they're at work they want to look good (even if at home they're dirty hypocrites and maybe cam gurl customers), and will do all they can to look unfriendly to any porn biller or biz or facilitator. Try to say you're cam girl or cam site and ask some help from banks or VISA's let's see if they care to you same as who's mainstream person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielle_xoxo View Post
    Don't let them fool you...just because they go to church every Sunday doesn't mean shit in my book LoL! Some of the most crooked, lying hypocrites in the world go to church every week.


    Amen, sista!


    +1 to what you said, plus the Bible-thumpers who insist on quoting the scriptures any time they hear you complain about something in your life...haha. People on Facebook are NOTORIOUS for the Bible-thumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    Amen, sista!


    +1 to what you said, plus the Bible-thumpers who insist on quoting the scriptures any time they hear you complain about something in your life...haha. People on Facebook are NOTORIOUS for the Bible-thumping.
    OMG yes... if you want a ton of people to instantly "like" what you said, throw god in the mix... sorry to t/j i just couldn't resist...

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    I think you need some new facebook friends! LoL!

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    Ty for the advice...

    I just want to look into some new sites in the meantime, getting checks from IML aint happenin, unless yuo pick their over priced ripoff of a fed ex option they say if you receive a check in the mail it can take 30-60 days, andddd that they will not re-issue checks if they go missing, that is bs.

    I cannot continue to get checks from all of my sites, it just isnt feesible for me to do all of this extra driving/cashing/banking. I liked my epass card due to the convenience,and will be signing up to the above sites ASAP.

    IMLIVE now offers payoneer options, but they are having us create our own accounts which I do not agree with. Id like to sign up with ifriends for now and camworld. I am curious to know about their cards. Does ifriends/camworld offer sponsored accounts, or do you have to sign up with the company and submit your own info? Any word on how long the card will take to arrive?

    This has become such a stressful situation with epassporte, and although I am leary of using any service now, it is better then checks for me. Any replies appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishBecky View Post
    I use the ifriends card
    the fees are higher than epass (and are particularly high for international users like me) but apart from that it works pretty much like epass. I'm pretty sure that the ifriends card (webpowerfx) is run by ifriends as when ifriends site was down a few weeks ago the webpowerfx site was down too and they directly link to each other, so not sure that the ifriends card will ever be usable by other sites to pay

    Wonderful to hear....ifriends here I comeee!!!

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    cYBERSTRIPPER, HERE YOU GO LOVE:


    Dear xxxxxxxxxxxl,

    Congratulations!

    Your Prepaid debit MasterCard® card order has been approved!

    Please note that it can take up to 10 business days to receive the ImLive Prepaid debit MasterCard card within the U.S. and up to 25 business days for delivery outside of the U.S.

    Your reference number in our system is xxxxxx. Please refer to this number when contacting us.

    Below is your Cardholder User Name which you will need to access your account:
    xxxx 's Cardholder User Name: xxxxxxx

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    if friends didn't need a thousands piece of verification id already be doing my thing on there. i have uploaded shit for 1 year now, and still aint done.... *shrug*

    I need to whip my own tail for that

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    SHIT PPG last time I checked IMLIVE was referring us to sign up with our own payoneer accounts, but I have not logged in all weekend. I looked at payoneer and saw that it could take 30 days for the card to get here!

    Did you sign up with a payoneer card direct thru payoneer? Last time I checked this was the only way we could submit a payoneer account. If they will send me one via imlive, id prefer that. Pls let me know asap and pm me if you can

    I have also just logged into imlive and i have the option to click payoneer, and then it says

    We have made a great effort in providing you with a new electronic payment method as an alternative for ePassporte. You can learn more and register to Payoneer here. Please note that until your Payoneer account is approved you will not be able to receive payouts using this method.

    So this tells me that I must register to a payoneer account on my own? Unfortunately I cannot do so at the present moment but if there is a way around this please let me know.

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    I don't really want to have a Payoneer card and have to pay all those fees. I chose the "direct deposit" Payoneer option when I signed up just now and apparently if you have a US bank account they put it right in your account and charge $3 per transfer.

    Anyone else choose that option? I emailed Payoneer to see if that fee is correct but no answer yet.

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    i guess i being naive when i ask this : whats wrong with having our own payonerr account? The fee's?

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    Due to being a victim of id theft I no longer submit any credit card info or bank account info online....

    Fees I could care less about, I just want an easy way to get money haha! It sucks but since I have been a victim of id theft I have pretty much done without credit cards and bank accounts, it can be a pain in the ass. This is why epass was such a great thing for me.

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    i i ended up just opening my account with them thru imlive, but figured the fees would be the same, if not more, if i went direct. supposedly getting the card through imlive its on a rush or something and should be here before the next pay period.

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    wonderful to hear ginger! I contacted imlive support for more specific answers as well. It looksl ike I do not need to sign up directly with payoneer, thanks to ppg and your posts. I will try this n see what happens.

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    I too had been a victim of identity theft. the fool was buying guns, tape and all type of weird shit, from overseas, at the same time I was shopping in big lots. wtf.
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    I signed up to payoneer thru imlive. wehn i log into payoneer, you see its imlives card

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    Due to being a victim of id theft I no longer submit any credit card info or bank account info online....

    Fees I could care less about, I just want an easy way to get money haha! It sucks but since I have been a victim of id theft I have pretty much done without credit cards and bank accounts, it can be a pain in the ass. This is why epass was such a great thing for me.
    I only had bank fraud after i signed up to epassporte. Im not saying it was them but im saying epassporte is spelled SCAM if you google it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by missginger View Post
    i i ended up just opening my account with them thru imlive, but figured the fees would be the same, if not more, if i went direct. supposedly getting the card through imlive its on a rush or something and should be here before the next pay period.

    When doing so via imlive, did you have to insert any credit card information or bank account information..this is the dillema I am having due to being a victim of id theft

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    =damn , i dont even remember... sorry boo

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    It seems they want me to sign up for my own account so screw it! I will wait 30-60 days in the mail for my check, and after this will resign from imlive. All sites have their issues but the fact that they increased their rate from fed ex from $25 to $50 is bs to me, they are trying to make money off of this unfortunate situation and it isnt right. I am not for their policies regarding checks and as is that Is all i can get. Time to look into other sites.

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