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    Holy crap the low season in FL (central east/west to south) is fucking insane! It's pretty much half of the year is great and the other half sucks ass! The selection of big clubs to accommodate a lot of dancers is almost non-existent. And the tip-out at most clubs is ridiculous (10% dj & $x amount manager) ... didn't experience shit like this in Vegas. Add all this up and now I understand why the FL dancers I met back home and locally are b*tches ... hell I'd be a bitch too if I lived and worked in this type of condition all year round.

    This is not to say there isn't money to be made during the low season, but the term "hit or miss" is definitely the motto here.

    And in my experience working from central east & west to south, the people (not only in the club), culture, attitude and club environment is dramatically different.

    If any dancer is curious about FL come here ONLY during season. The downside is accommodations are expensive ... so plan wisely.

    Hope this helps other dancers looking into FL. I'm not a FL girl but heed my warning and heed the warning of FL dancers ... not all of them are haters ... they're just telling you like it is.

    Feel free to pm me if you have specific questions that you don't want to post publicly. I'm happy to help other dancers

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    Agreed. Unless you've actually experienced it, it's hard to express exactly how crazy and extreme the difference is. And it feels like up until this year we could still at least be all right if not making crazy bank during the slow season as long as we knew what we were doing. I might even have still been all right had I been able to save up during the busy period, but that didn't happen due to having to having to take so much time off due to one emergency after another.

    My goal this year is to work my butt off during the busy season (one more month or so!!!) to save enough to be able to take extended strip trips during the slow season, because I do not want to go through another period like this last one. I refuse to deal with that kind of stress again. And meanwhile I will continue to work out like a fiend so I can go try to work at Mons Venus, which is at this point one of the only clubs in Florida that is even vaguely consistent.

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    I'm really happy not to be dancing in Florida right now. Although, I do miss the state itself....and my friends, it's just not worth the constant wondering "Will I break even tonight".

    I hope Mons Venus takes you rareaspasia! Depressing that the pool of decent clubs has narrowed so drastically.



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    My best friends been at mons ten years and walked out with 140 thursday! Its not consistent ether! I told you adventue baby and there ae moe girls moving here everyday and complaining. Our unenplyment rate for aug was 11.5%. This is why I travel. Florida sucks even fo seasoned hustlers who are 9s right now I wish I never even went back a couple days a week when I am in town thats the reason I havent worked here in 3 years except for key west.

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    i guess i am the only one not-so-thrilled at being called a bitch? and my friends are bitches too? but we're money-making bitches, so i guess that's why you're mad.

    making sweeping generalizations about an enormous group of dancers, not-preparing for hurricane season in a hurricane state....i'm a bitch because you're stupid? fair enough.

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    ^ Not undersanding your post? Arent you in ohio? I could care less if she called florida girls bitches I live here but I am fro chicago. I told here it was slow here and to head back were she cae from and south florida was worse she wouldnt like it. Some people just dont believe florida sucks june -sep. Even girls who thought mons was the end all be all have moved on. I also dont think she called girls here bitches cuz there money making shes from vegas so she knows what real money is and noone is making big money in florida right now. I dont know what money making is to you but Iam use to manhattan , chicago money and thats not here right now! also whats with the huricane comment?

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    of course the money sucks in florida during summer and hurricane season. that's why i don't work in florida during summer and hurricane season. fact: it is slow season in florida. how does that make florida dancers bitches? if every dancer you're working with in florida is a bitch to you, it's not them, it's you.

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    Yeah Fl is like that sometimes. I was a bitch sometimes. Well, Im always a bitch. But sometimes it WAS due to the tip outs during slow times here. I didnt do bad though, I was good at what I do, so I wouldnt credit all my bitch-yness to the club.
    And actually, i made thousands a night right after hurrican Ivan. I LOVED that! All the workers come after hurricanes... soooo..try then... i guess.

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    Yeah I'm gonna make a general statement that FL dancers are bitches because that's what I've experienced ... catty, rude and drama. Ok, there were a few girls that were nice but 2 of the nice girls are dancers from SW that I met in person ... not good odds. And like I said, if I had to work here year round I'd probably be bitch too w/ new girls coming into my club. I just took it as the nature of the beast. No biggie to me. I'm use to bitches back in Vegas but there were a lot more nice dancers than bitches. It's nothing personal to any dancer on this board that I don't know because I don't know you. It all comes down to my real life experience ... which has not been good.

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    thank you for posting this thread. i'm so sick of people acting like florida dancers are just talking shit to keep people from all our bank. sure, we don't want another dancer knocking the average down from 100 a night to 90 a night, but with numbers like that travelling here still isn't worth it.

    frankly, even last season was pretty shitty because it was as cold here as it was up north. super bowl 2 years ago was a joke and a half.

    florida used to be amazing. it's true. it really was great money. it isn't anymore.

    and it has nothing to do with hurricanes. we haven't been touched by a hurricane in years, and the ones that have hit florida have been late in summer. yet "season" ends when tax day comes. i'm not kidding. it stays ok till july, then it really, really sucks. then it starts to pick up in mid october, and really starts in mid november. in other words, "season" actually lasts 4.5 months. that isn't very long.

    and on top of that, most places with decent money are nude and high contact.

    i imagine south florida really is better money thn tampa is, though. tampa is a college town now. there's a ton of nightlife. every weekend there's another event going on. there's a ton of nightclubs and bars and a ton of slutty girls who'll blow you for free, no need to buy lapdances in strip clubs. not even all the bars close at 3. a lot of people will hang out at the casino, and i think they close/stop serving alcohol at 5am, just like the latest stripclubs, which are juice bars (i think, i've never been to the casino). when i was in south florida in june, i was genuinely surprised by how slow and boring it seemed. there wasn't even a 24hour starbucks. i didn't dance at the time, but i'm going to try it down there. sure, there's more hookers, but i've danced in tampa for years. i'm familiar with hookers in clubs.

    the biggest lesson for dancers anywhere...don't dance in a place where guys have other things to do. if you want to travel, travel someplace where the strip club is basically the only fun option men have. you will make money there. and you probably won't have to spend all night swatting hands away from your pussy to make that money.

    and just for the record, the bitchiness is year-round. it's a really high hustle place to be. nice girls have a hard time with it. it isn't so much that the state turns girls into bitches, more like bitches are the only ones who can thrive in those environments. only the strong survive. also, nice girls will mostly just keep their mouths shut most of the time and avoid other girls as much as possible, so a new girl wouldn't even notice them. a couple years ago, i was at cheetah sarasota, and almost all the girls there were sooooo nice. but it wasn't a high hustle club. there weren't expensive champagne rooms. you couldn't wrap your legs around guys heads for a dollar onstage. no idea what it's like now.

    bitches are bitches. and a lot of them are "bitches" too. which i didn't used to believe, but i've learned otherwise. shame.
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    ^ From the posts I have read from you over the years I wouldnt try miami. You sad yourself go somewere were theres nothing else to do, well miami has some of the best nightlife anfdif you think tampa is high contact, well. There is also to be money made at topless clubs here also you just have to be a 8-10 to make money there and yeah hurricane season has nothng to do with season here. Whoever said that doesnt live in florida. I have to say as a girl who has worked at top clubs in chicago, manhattan, vegas, new orleans, denver, yrtle bch during golf season ( which could be brutal) conn,baltimore I do think the girls in florida are the cattiest ive experienced because its not like the other places ive mentioned were you have 100 plus girls and 500 plus guys through the door so everybody is busy making money and noone cares what your doing! No competing for 30 guys through the door ya know

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    Yep. I've been trying to tell girls this for years and they scoff at me. I've been retired for going on 2 years now...what do I care...you wouldnt be competition for me anymore if you came here. I have nothing to gain or lose by telling the truth. Glad to see that someone finally sees it for what it is here. Even the hookers in the club who are willing to do everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) are barely making it most of the time.

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    I gotta admit I also was slightly offended at the bitch generalization, but whatever. It's not even worth discussing. About the money, I know for a fact that it has been very bad in most clubs in Miami for the majority of girls in the Summer, especially August-September. It's just overall not the best place to work because of extras too but we all know that.. I'm just happy season is around the corner!!!

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    ^ From the posts I have read from you over the years I wouldnt try miami. You sad yourself go somewere were theres nothing else to do, well miami has some of the best nightlife anfdif you think tampa is high contact, well. There is also to be money made at topless clubs here also you just have to be a 8-10 to make money there and yeah hurricane season has nothng to do with season here. Whoever said that doesnt live in florida. I have to say as a girl who has worked at top clubs in chicago, manhattan, vegas, new orleans, denver, yrtle bch during golf season ( which could be brutal) conn,baltimore I do think the girls in florida are the cattiest ive experienced because its not like the other places ive mentioned were you have 100 plus girls and 500 plus guys through the door so everybody is busy making money and noone cares what your doing! No competing for 30 guys through the door ya know
    well, i'm working now on getting back into shape. i got kinda sidetracked on that when i went on birth control. didn't get worse, just stalled progress. but whatev. at my best, i might be around an 8. maybe. my stats were good, but i dunno. my nose is a little crooked, teeth a little crooked. i have some stretch marks on my hips. i'm only 5'4. big boobs, but not really perky. etc. when i looked almost my best i won the am contest at dh, but they wouldn't hire me.

    i actually don't like topless. i hate worrying about my thong staying in place. i think the tape makes my boobs look saggy. and if a guy is gonna try to touch pink, he'll do it regardless of whether a thong is in the way.

    i know there IS nightlife in miami, of course. it's miami. but it's not the same sort of thing as tampa. it just felt a lot different. mind, i wasn't in miami, but a bit north. i actually really liked being there, which was a huge surprise to me. i really liked the vibe. i've also read economy info showing lower unemployment numbers down there, which also factors into my desire to give it a try. but only if i can get hired at one of the better clubs. like, tootsies at the worst, you know?

    i don't want to move down there. i just want to see if i can have a couple good shifts, then leave before everyone knows i won't blow them, maybe come back again a month later when i'm fresh again. lol. but i don't mind high contact.

    what i really want to do is move out, give my cat to my dad, and travel. but i've got to get some things together before i can do that.

    and yes, the girl-custie ratio is the main reason tampa's got the toughest hustle. when i first started here, the ratio was good and money was still pretty easy. girls weren't very friendly, and there'd always be a little drama, but everyone was too busy making money to be genuinely awful. even now i wouldn't call it awful. but the awful girls have a lot more free time to put new girls through hell. when i first started, my former club would be insane during season. even weeknights were busy. this last season, it wouldn't even get filled up on weekends. guys would come and go in waves, and there'd be times when the club was almost empty late on a friday night. it was awful.

    i'm cool with nudity and contact. but nudity and contact for 100$ on a saturday night...that's how tampa can be sometimes. i don't mind not making much if it's easy money. and i don't mind working hard if the money's good. but when you work hard for almost nothing...girls need to realize that this is what the warnings about tampa are about.
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    Yeah I know when your used to 500 guys through the door in othe states and you have like 30 in tampa its a joke! Ive lived here 16 years and worked for 7 before I started taveling. Then went back from 04-08 and havent worked here since, until june but Iam lucky that I have realestate investents that make me money and only go in 2 nights a week. I couldnt handle any more than that with the tampa douche bags! I make all my money off of white collar and there isnt enough of that in tampa. Glad I a hred at high end clubs in manhattan ect now if I could just find someone reliable who could get hired and go with me, well thats another story. Notgoing to pay 300 a night to go alone!

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    In my limited FL experience I'd say the odds of making consistent (or somewhat consistent) money during the off season is south. The downside is the EXTREME heavy contact ... which CAN be controlled. I've HAD to do but it takes A LOT of effort, especially when custies are use to pretty much what ever they want and a lot of the other girls are allowing it as well. South is definitely NOT for the newbie dancer ... not unless she's also an escort ... but that's a different story. You NEED to be ok w/ at least tits & ass groping and have a THICK skin.

    And re: central ... IMHO I feel that Mons has the best potential for consistent money. Even when it's slow a dancer will not walk out in the negative ... not unless she's just sitting on her ass. Custies goe into Mons for dances and it's pretty easy getting them ... it's just difficult getting hired ... or not fired.

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    No offence but I disagree you cant base that on one night and other vets whove been on this board and worked in central fl for years will tell ya clubs with a 400-500 dollar vip roo and 30 dollar dances have more money potential. and this s coming from someone who could get hired there and never bothered. It was were you were the most comftorable and the tip out there is cheaper than most other tampa clubs way cheaper.

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    I'm NOT into private rooms so my opinion is based on doing a shit load of LD's in the open where I FEEL SAFE. It's just my personal preference.

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    At least after working here I know that the odds are excellent that I will do well out of state at clubs where you don't have hustle your ass off to make money!

    Lol, I try to stay positive. But that's getting easier now that I'm out of my hustle rut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    At least after working here I know that the odds are excellent that I will do well out of state at clubs where you don't have hustle your ass off to make money!

    Lol, I try to stay positive. But that's getting easier now that I'm out of my hustle rut.
    Still gotta hustle in other cities but having worked here definitely will make it easier working elsewhere. And depending where you're dancing the upside is you won't have to deal w/ heavy two-way contact.

    I'm right there w/ ya ... trying to remain positive too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    At least after working here I know that the odds are excellent that I will do well out of state at clubs where you don't have hustle your ass off to make money!

    Lol, I try to stay positive. But that's getting easier now that I'm out of my hustle rut.
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    Hi ladies. This is my first post and I'd like to chime in. I grew up (but was born in the Caribbean) in Miami so I can tell you guys firsthand how the strip clubs are here.

    I work in the next county up Broward, for two reasons. The first is I don't want professors, classmates, friends, parents' friends to see me dancing. The second is if you are NOT doing extras, you are NOT going to make a lot of money consistently. When strip clubs were good, you could get away with it at the few higher end clubs that but definitely not at most.

    Now that the strip club era is temporarily over, extras are rampant to make money. Half the clubs have you come in with your fees already which start at a base, around $30ish and move up through the rest of the week. The other half make you pay a large house fee and a certain percent goes to the DJ and/or manager. The point is to push VIP/champagne rooms because the guys will pay for sex. It's also pretty much normal for guys to touch women's genitals. Even putting their fingers in at a lot of clubs and if you won't let them, they can always move on to a dancer that will. Especially seeing that Miami has absolutely no shortage of strip clubs.

    Now I'm not saying all dancers in Miami are having sex, but if you actually want to see any of the money you're making... get out of Miami or prepare to work very, very hard.

    The clubs all over South Florida suck right now and we are really hurting, and that makes women even more vicious in an environment where most are not comfortable with the full nude, full friction, full liquor. I don't drink and have no problems with nudity so that doesn't bother me but I do see it all having a cumulative effect on my coworkers.

    I was actually SHOCKED to find out there most strip clubs in the United States that weren't full everything, and I only found that out within the past 6 months.

    Just wanted to drop my $0.02
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    Hi magicin1969 ... welcome to SW! I really appreciate your input and look forward to seeing you around the board

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    I'm not surprised by any of this info. I believe it is difficult to make good money consistently in this climate.

    I have been wanting to work in South Florida for a few years now, and even when things were better I was warned about how tough the house/regular dancers can be- I would guess it is even worse now.

    I will say that I have heard there is money flowing in Miami though, so it would matter where one works. This is just off of stage/lap money, no one can vouch for what happens in the private areas unless they are in them.
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