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    A woman on another forum which I am not allowed to say here, asked how she could make tips on MFC, because she was new, and needed a few pointers.

    A MAN named Tubby556 said:

    "OK, I spend a lot of time on the site. Like 6-8 hours a day, some days more. Thursdays I usually pull a 14-15 hour day. I've got a little bit of insight from a member's perspective. The following is my raw opinion, so take it for what it is with no sugar. Some of the examples might pertain to you but were stated as general observations.

    Boils down to professionalism and attitude. The prettiest model won't make the most amount of money and the not so prettiest model won't make the least amount of money. There are some gorgeous models that don't make shit and some "average or below" looking models that rake in the money.

    To be successful you have to believe you are successful. This shows confidence in yourself, physically and emotionally. Confidence is an attractive trait in anyone, be it a man or woman; and I think everyone here will agree on that. Being a cam girl is more about the attitude than the looks. Women see confidence in men and men see it in women. Do you think man with zero confidence is attractive? Not so much. Same applies to cam girls. How many models do you see lying on their side in bra/panties starting at their screen doing nothing but waiting for fish to bite? Taking care of yourself is confidence.

    That being said, this isn't the dictionary and work comes before success.

    It doesn't matter if it's in public chat, group, or private. You have to perform at or near the top of your game. Being active on cam with dances, teases, games is a good start. Sitting or laying around is a sure way to have someone be disinterested and click next model. Being interactive is essential. When you are tipped, no matter if it's 10 tokens or 1,000 tokens, thank them by name in the same manner with the same gratitude. Many tips are "feelers" to see how the model will interact with them. I do it as well as many others. A model has to prove herself before the bigger, consistent tips come out. The models that have proved themselves to me are the ones that receive minimum 100 tokens tips from me. They didn't start out with that, it was worked up through interaction with them. Not just any model goes private with me. I'm selective about them and they have to be the total package for me to commit. This is not a statement of arrogance. I'm nothing to write home about in the looks department and I've never thought of my self as the proverbial gift to anyone.

    A dedicated space for camming is nice to have if you have the room. If the computer can be easily moved it helps when others are home too so you can focus on the guests in your room rather than your environment. Don't have anything around that's distracting. You want the guests to be focused on you, not your pile of bills stacked on the dresser behind you. Might take a few weeks to get your "cam nest" designed and implemented. Your environment is an expression of your confidence and inner personality. Messy beds and clutter everywhere give the impression of a disorganized, care free attitude that might prevent someone from getting to know you enough to be a regular tipper. Messy is not attractive.

    The men on the site are not ATM machines (no sicko, not the ass-to-mouth kind, the money kind). One of the biggest turn offs for me and I'm sure other guys are models that beg; just as models hate begging members. It's mutual. If the member will see fit to tip the model, it shall be done. If not, don't push them. You might feel good about "giving them the business" for a few minutes but you just lost a customer for life. A model that uses their personal life as leverage to get sympathy and tips is not only unprofessional, but it's just bad form. 90% of the guys on the site don't give a shit about you or your rent that's 2 months behind. They are there for themselves, not you. They want your face down, ass up, and they're out. Don't waste your energy. Just be yourself.

    This industry doesn't suffer fools. You, as a cam girl, need to run your operation as a business because that's what it is. You are a self employed contractor. Your customers are the members in the room. You need to market yourself as a person and as a body of desire. There is a rule in customer service that a customer that has one negative experience with a business will tell at least 10 people, of whom will tell 10 people each. The customer with a good experience will tell about 3 people, of whom will tell about the same. As you can see, a reputation takes a lot less time to be ruined or tarnished than it takes to build it. Focus on building your reputation and the fans will be there for you. This is a customer service industry no question about it. Customer service is an attitude. It starts with you. A customer enters the room. It's your job to keep them there. Focus on the customer at all times. If you feel the need to multitask and check other things, turn your cam off, take care of it and get back on cam. Staring at the computer doing other things besides acknowledging the people in the room will make you lose customers faster than you can say "wait, guys I'm back".

    The successful models started from ground zero and through trial and error, attained a loyal following. But again it took hard work to get to that point. There is no entitlement to success and money. You have to earn it."


    And there you have it ladies.
    xoxo PussyPlayground


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    Wow, that's some valuable advice right there. Now I'm inspired to get on MFC again.

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    Well said, Tubby.

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    well, if the guys talk amongst themselves, what he's saying is probably true of most. i imagine the ones who like mean girls probably aren't bragging about it.
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    I think Tubby is not the typical self-serving custy. Some of what he says should be taken with a grain of salt. But the moving and engaging and so on is VERY important. Laying there looking bored is the camgirls bad paying play.

    Loud annoying keyboards....terrible.

    Poorly lit scenes in which it is obvious the lighting is not intentional (ie candle-light) but just "shitty lighting"...HUGE mistake.

    Poorly chosen music - Well, I consider this one of the most important camming subjects myself.

    No creativity to what the camgirl "does" on cam ---Once again, Go hard, or Go Home!

    B.

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    Awesome post Nina. Thanks for sharing it!

    Same for Bambina, very true.

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    I agree with him almost 100%. Great advice, I think this should be stickied. This is true for all of the adult industry jobs. I hear it all the time ITC with girls whining to customers that rent is do, they need $1,000 in 5 days, blah blah. The customers don't care, they don't want to hear it. They go to these places for the fantasy, hearing our real life problems isn't part of their fantasy, it is an immediate turn off and shows you lack all confidence and are resorting to begging to make your money. I used to work with a girl a while back and all she did all night was whine in the dressing room, whine to all of us girls, whine to all of her customers on how bad her life was and how she has so much debt. then had to hear her whine at teh end of the night that she made no money.

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    Its True so true confidence is the Key... im a big girl 290 5ft 9in... but with huge confidence!!! WHen first starting the cam sites , i thought ok ill be happy makin g 100 to 200 every 2 weeks.. shoot even a month.. but turned out in my first month i made 4K, just by being confident in myself and what i do. Wise words up their ladies, but MOST IMPORTENT BE CONFIDENT IN YOURSELF!!!!

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    I don't agree with him 100% but he did make some good points. Some of the things he mentioned can be applied to more site then just MFC.

    The girls being broke is so true. Begging for money is not attractive at all. There was a camgirl on twitter that was asking for money..... I just shook my head cuz as long as one has a pussy they should never be broke.

    I just wonder why I always see camgirls begging for money and beginning broke yet I rarely see other women in the online adult industry asking for hand outs. I ain't knocking anyone I just think there's to many resources online... camming, phonesex, clips4sale, running your own site, financial domination, affiliates, etc to be broke....


    Get your hustle up and save money...jus saying.

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    Well, from what I read this guy is saying what other cam girls have been advicing their starter co-workers to do for a while.

    I have a hard time taking advices from a guy who spends up to 15 hours on a website, even though he says "men who do so aren't psycho", I'm like... duh ? 8 to 15 hours on a webcam girls site ? And do you think during all this time he tips all the girls he watches? Or do you rather think he is one of those guys who are scaring a lot of us, when he just stays in the chatroom looking at us, without saying anything ? I do think he is the latter. I really struggle taking advices from him. Whatever he says, all the "good points" he evokes, have been said a thousand times before him, so I'm not sure why one would congratulate him more than an other of our co-workers who tells us the same. Because he is a guy ? Erm. No.

    If he had some major insight that we girls didn't catch before, then okay I'd be amazed. I'm just very much skeptic about his point:

    whose best interest does he have in mind ?

    Think about it, a guy who spends 15 hours in front of a computer to watch girls shake their asses, hardly tips (not all of them, that would not be possible) "most" of the girls he watches. So now he is there, telling you how to run your business and that it's all about "earning it before he tips you AT LEAST 100 TOKENS"...

    I'm sorry but... what's the definition of "earning it" ? Shaking your ass for free ? Flashing tits ? That's cheap. That's what cheap men ask. That's the kind of guys we don't want in our chatroom. Why would we care about their "customer vision" ? We care about those who don't brag they are here every single day and those who tip madly and take you private quickly to get to know you better. Those who don't spend 15 hours on a site in order to do the high market research of "definining a webcam girl success." (especially because nobody asked him to do it.)

    Taking advice from this guy is up to you, but I don't see a point in trusting someone who is interested in HIS OWN MONEY and getting more for less - he does not seem interested in your own success as an entertainer. Look, he is telling girls to just play hard before seeing a single tip - without taking into account the incredible amount of jerks (who usually leer the computer for an incredible amount of hours without really tipping girls or anything) that we girls get to sadly "enjoy" on a hourly basis.

    Yet he is all of sudden MISTER "I GOT IT ALL" CAM GUY OF THE YEAR.

    Right.

    I'm not giving him this award, I rather give it to GIRLS who said exactly the same things as he did, with a less "I know it all" tone on SW. These girls have been helping us to improve our game for years, and they do spend up to 15 hours on OUR side, having our emotional and physical interest in mind, which makes a huge difference when it comes to trusting someone's advices in this industry.

    Again it has nothing to do with this advice coming from a guy but with him saying basic stuff and getting rave reviews for it - it doesn't make sense for me, and it's all personal review of course.

    Thanks for sharing still, it's pretty entertaining to see what guys have to say about webcam sites even though it's not advice-worth in my opinion
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    It's good to read decent feedback from customers, and I think most what he written fair to know what customers seek when visiting cam model rooms. Customers want to feel welcome when visiting rooms. Simply greetings and talking to them also seductive movement/dancing try to allure them in for tips or privates. To build up regulars most are looking for this in models.

    When I'm in freechat, I will do such things but have limit to not offer the full piece of pie only reserve the pie dessert in privates

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzdeniro View Post
    I don't agree with him 100% but he did make some good points. Some of the things he mentioned can be applied to more site then just MFC.

    The girls being broke is so true. Begging for money is not attractive at all. There was a camgirl on twitter that was asking for money..... I just shook my head cuz as long as one has a pussy they should never be broke.

    I just wonder why I always see camgirls begging for money and beginning broke yet I rarely see other women in the online adult industry asking for hand outs. I ain't knocking anyone I just think there's to many resources online... camming, phonesex, clips4sale, running your own site, financial domination, affiliates, etc to be broke....


    Get your hustle up and save money...jus saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by AliciaC View Post
    Well, from what I read this guy is saying what other cam girls have been advicing their starter co-workers to do for a while.

    I have a hard time taking advices from a guy who spends up to 15 hours on a website, even though he says "men who do so aren't psycho", I'm like... duh ? 8 to 15 hours on a webcam girls site ? And do you think during all this time he tips all the girls he watches? Or do you rather think he is one of those guys who are scaring a lot of us, when he just stays in the chatroom looking at us, without saying anything ? I do think he is the latter. I really struggle taking advices from him. Whatever he says, all the "good points" he evokes, have been said a thousand times before him, so I'm not sure why one would congratulate him more than an other of our co-workers who tells us the same. Because he is a guy ? Erm. No.

    If he had some major insight that we girls didn't catch before, then okay I'd be amazed. I'm just very much skeptic about his point:

    whose best interest does he have in mind ?

    Think about it, a guy who spends 15 hours in front of a computer to watch girls shake their asses, hardly tips (not all of them, that would not be possible) "most" of the girls he watches. So now he is there, telling you how to run your business and that it's all about "earning it before he tips you AT LEAST 100 TOKENS"...

    I'm sorry but... what's the definition of "earning it" ? Shaking your ass for free ? Flashing tits ? That's cheap. That's what cheap men ask. That's the kind of guys we don't want in our chatroom. Why would we care about their "customer vision" ? We care about those who don't brag they are here every single day and those who tip madly and take you private quickly to get to know you better. Those who don't spend 15 hours on a site in order to do the high market research of "definining a webcam girl success." (especially because nobody asked him to do it.)

    Taking advice from this guy is up to you, but I don't see a point in trusting someone who is interested in HIS OWN MONEY and getting more for less - he does not seem interested in your own success as an entertainer. Look, he is telling girls to just play hard before seeing a single tip - without taking into account the incredible amount of jerks (who usually leer the computer for an incredible amount of hours without really tipping girls or anything) that we girls get to sadly "enjoy" on a hourly basis.

    Yet he is all of sudden MISTER "I GOT IT ALL" CAM GUY OF THE YEAR.

    Right.

    I'm not giving him this award, I rather give it to GIRLS who said exactly the same things as he did, with a less "I know it all" tone on SW. These girls have been helping us to improve our game for years, and they do spend up to 15 hours on OUR side, having our emotional and physical interest in mind, which makes a huge difference when it comes to trusting someone's advices in this industry.

    Again it has nothing to do with this advice coming from a guy but with him saying basic stuff and getting rave reviews for it - it doesn't make sense for me, and it's all personal review of course.

    Thanks for sharing still, it's pretty entertaining to see what guys have to say about webcam sites even though it's not advice-worth in my opinion


    it doesnt matter whos intrest he has in mind. what he is saying is TRUE, whether you like it or not, whether he tips you or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nIINA View Post
    it doesnt matter whos intrest he has in mind. what he is saying is TRUE, whether you like it or not, whether he tips you or not.
    I never wrote that I don't like what he says. I do actually like it, based on the fact it's exactly the same thing spread all around SW forums.

    I'm not arguing the fact what he says is true or not - I'd be a fool if I did. It is true.

    Regarding the statement that what he says is true "whether he tips me or not", I must admit a guy not supporting girls' business and yet telling them how to do their thing sounds very illogical to me, but heh, that's just me.

    I value this forum, I am merely giving my opinion on this particular post, I could also just not participate and silently pretend I find it amazing but if I want to be honest, I have to say that I found it more entertaining than advice-worth, so thanks for sharing still
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    A customer's POV is always important. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaM View Post
    A customer's POV is always important. :-)
    I definitely agree with this. However, I don't readily welcome the opinion of a lounge lizard who hardly ever tips when it comes to MFC specifically. I've had a fan like that and have wanted to kick him in the balls on several occassions. We don't know for sure that he's that type of guy but it's very likely. I do agree with most of what he said still, but yea nothing I didn't know already.

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    Everyone makes a good point here. The custies opinion does count. I have even asked some customers to give me feedback on what they like and don't like, and it has helped me gain a little insight into what type of shows to do for some people. I also agree that it is quite annoying for someone who never pays to just sit for 8 hours bugging women and trying to tell them how to run their chatroom. Tubby made some good points, but he sure does have a lot of time on his hands lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    but he sure does have a lot of time on his hands lol
    Exactly! Don't they all? Lmfao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaM View Post
    Exactly! Don't they all? Lmfao!
    Girl, yes! Sometimes I see someone come in my room, and I'm like damn, you see me in shifts?

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    hahahahahah! I know right!

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    You took the words out of my mouth Alicia lol.... so yea what she said right here:
    Quote Originally Posted by AliciaC View Post
    I never wrote that I don't like what he says. I do actually like it.

    I'm not arguing the fact what he says is true or not - I'd be a fool if I did. It is true.

    I value this forum, I am merely giving my opinion on this particular post, I could also just not participate and silently pretend I find it amazing but I want to be honest.

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