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    So the following is a conversation on a FB status of a friend of mine. Erin is the friend. The rest are unknown and my responses are in bold.

    Disclaimer - I am not expert on SG's by any means but I also do have friends that are SGs and I only say what I have heard from them and do not state it as fact. Also, there is repeat talk of what "whore" means. While it can and does mean a million things, I want those members to know that I am no against any part of the adult industry and none of this in anyway of what I said is meant to offend anyone.

    I was personally so pissed about how these girls are handling themselves and acting like they are know alls. So I thought I would share and get some more input.














    Erin Wants to become a Suicide Girl.




    You like this.
    Erin - you should do it with me.

    Jessica - Adam would not enjoy that lol. I wanted to a long time ago, but as you can see other things stopped that from happening. My friend Brandi is a SG. Her name on there is Papina.

    Erin - Brandi from Diamonds?

    Dixie - Are you fucking kidding? lol.

    Erin - what?

    Dixie - About wanting to be a Suicide Girl.

    Erin -n No. If you tell me I can't do it, it's just going to confirm that I will.

    Dixie - I'm not saying you CAN'T do it. I'm saying you should NOT do it, lol. Suicide Girls are just whores with tattoos. You have more class than that.

    Jessica - Yes that Brandi. And SG's are not just "whores with tattoos" How generalized can someone be? lmao

    Dixie - I think what you are trying to say is "General." And trust me, there is a reason people are grouped into these categories and stereotypes. It's not like they were developed over night and for no good reason. I just don't know what would fall under the term "WHORE" more fitting than somebody who takes their clothes off for money. I do believe that is an accurate depiction.

    Jessica - You know nothing of what you are talking about personally so don't discuss it.

    Jessica - Oh and I meant generalized.

    Dixie - I certainly won't discuss it with somebody who has the comprehension of a five year old, lol. Go for the jugular, sweetheart. I know -exactly- what I'm talking about, haha. Can't turn a ho into a housewife.

    Jessica - If you have walked in the shoes of others that live this lifestyle then you would know what you are talking about and wouldn't be so rash about it. But as is, you are being very condescending about the whole idea of SG's and which further proves to me and to Erin that you really know nothing of it. If you are so conservative that is fine, no one is beating you down for it. But don't try to make someone else of another profession or lifestyle feel like they are any less of a persona than you are. Because it just makes you look like the 5 year old.

    Dixie - First of all, I'm a person. Not a persona. Second of all, you're right, I wouldn't know anything about the lifestyle of a whore. Lastly, I'm just painting an accurate light here. A whore is a whore. I never said a whore is a bad person, or anything more or less. You engage in this kind of behavior for money, by definition, you are a whore. Don't try and manipulate what I'm -actually- saying into what you seem to have a problem perceiving.

    Dixie - We can't ALL be doctors and lawyers! haha

    Jessica - So, what you are saying is that anyone who is naked in a photograph or painting is automatically a whore?

    Jamie - I wonder how much they get paid?

    Jessica - It is different for each model I believe. I think some that have been apart of the community longer might get paid more but the fist shoot I remember being $500. And nudity isn't exactly required. Like you don't have to show your tits but implying that you are works. Unless they recently changed that policy.

    Erin -Dixie: If the definition of a whore is exposing their body whilst nude to unknown (or barely known) patrons and receiving monetary compensation in return, then by all means, yes. I am a whore. I will not hide who I am. But please, I will die the way I will die, so let me live the way I want to fucking live. One of these days we will all be dead and none of this will matter. This is who I am, Dixie. Take it or leave it.

    Jessica: Keep being so strong willed, that what I always admired about you. Which is ultimately what turned us into roommates. Ha, that made me think of this: "Hey, that's my girlfriend"! haha, great night.

    Jamie: hahahahahahahahahaha. I'm really baked so that was the greatest response ever. I miss yous guys! How is Scotty and his band? I NEED to see them! Tell him to come down here during his tour and to bring you with him so I can see yous guys. I can't wait to visit you again in Chicago. This time we must go to Kuma(SP?) Burger and I will get the Iron Maiden burger. ♥

    Cecilia - I wouldn't do it. I almost did it, and got offered $1500 per set of 30 photos. Then I realized that they totally own your image forever. You can never work as a model elsewhere or anything. Every SG girl I've talked to wished they never did it. Rikk's friend Lacie started getting her head from her SG pics photoshopped on to hard core pornographic photos. SG sold her pics to these people and Lacie got no money out of it. And you HAVE to show your boobs and butt AT LEAST. They have total control of all of your photos and will do whatever they want with them without asking you. At least on gods girls you can buy your photos back.

    Cecilia - In addition, they only pay based on what they think you are worth. Some of the fat chicks on there actually paid to be on the site while other chicks get paid a lot. Then you sign a contract where you agree to give up everything but your soul and waive your right to sue them for any reason. Then you look for a photographer and set up your own shoot. Then you send in a shoot of 100+ photos where you MUST be totally NAKED at the end of it. Then they review them in a few months and decide if they want to use them or not.

    They just try to make it look all "girl power" and shit. But really SG just takes advantage of stupid people. Trust me on this Erin, It's a crock of shit.

    Jessica has no fucking clue what she's talking about.

    Jessica - Uh excuse me but can you read? I did say the policy may have changed. I'm aware of it. Have you even heard of Lithium Picnic? My fave model from SG's left because of this exact reason. Apena. So thanks but yes I do know what I am talking about but I'm not going to recite the whole fucking contract because each person is going to make their own fucking choices. So please, keep my name out of your mouth and away from your finger tips. Thanks. Fuckhead.

    Jessica - PS. I never said I was a fucking expert on it so don't get your panties all in a bunch over it.

    Erin - Don't make me get the water hose, girls.

    Jessica - But I likes it! lol

    Erin - haha, I know. Miss you.

    Jessica - I miss you too. Any idea hen you will be in either of the two lovely cities I'm in? Not so lovely the current one but you get me lol.

    Cecilia - Not worth it. At all.

    Dixie -: I'm not stifling your lifestyle choices. You will make your bed and lie in it, just like the rest of us. Nor am I passing judgment on your lifestyle choices. If you decide to be a SG, good for you. I hope it is as gratifying as you hope. And it doesn't effect my opinion of you a friend. But at the same time I think you are totally minimizing this. If you want tons of guys to fap at your pictures, while you are compensated, knock yourself out. Every picture is worth 1,000 words. What will your pictures say?

    Erin - Jess, I have no idea. Soon I hope. One of these days when I have a lot of money I'm going to rent a room at PT and invite everyone out to get wasted. Should be fun.

    Lisa - one word.. trashy

    Elizabeth - Nothing like an autocratic pretentious bitch to spice things up, right Dixie?! Yes, Cecilia, the fat girls should get paid less, because they are obviously less beautiful. Besides, wouldn't want them spending their earnings on doughnuts!

    Virginia - Where did the marine biologist idea go? The navy idea? I'm with dixie on this, you can do better and you know it. You know that your worth more than a $500 photo. Cecilia was right in saying that once you give it to them, good luck on getting a real career. I hope this is just a pipe dream and your not serious about this. You've got a good three or four years before you're too old and where will you be then? Might as well go to a strip club because at least that's a GUARANTEED income. And regardless of the definition of the word whore, you're not one so don't become one.

    Cecilia - I didn't say they should get paid less.

    I don't give a flip what SG does. It's not my fault stupid "naked-chick" organizations pay people based on what they consider is beautiful, so don't go around saying nasty things about me.

    And I fucking love donuts.

    Elizabeth - I wasn't saying anything nasty about you Cecilia.. however, I was taken aback by your crass definition. So what about the dogfaced skinny chicks on there. Did they have to pay to be on the site also? I just felt it offensive to insinuate the 'fat chicks' were the women of lowest value on the site. Especially since I'm sure that you have not had the opportunity to view each SG's account/bill, in order to make a determined and completely educated decision. Therefore, what you said was not a fact, but a personal opinion/assumption.

    Virginia - It's more of a fact then you'd want to believe. It's common sense. SG is just like everywhere else, fat girls are only slightly bustier or more "full figured" but get payed less because they're bringing less revenue to the site. Unfortunately even a porn site such as SG discriminates.

    Jessica - This is a false fact. SG's actually covers many fetishes as well as naked hot tattooed chicks. Some of the bigger girls bring in much more revenue than the skinny thin chics. They cover many many grounds on their website, that other places like Playboy does not. It's a niche and it works for them.

    Elizabeth - Just because something is widely assumed, doesn't make it a fact. A specific fact requires specific evidence.

    Jessica - Also what is with people? Nude modeling or stripping does not make nor mean you are a whore. Sleeping around with plenty of partners is what makes someone a whore. Big difference. Just let her choose what she wants and support her either way. She doesn't need anyones approval. She's her own woman and is strong enough to get on without anyone pulling her down because they "disapprove" of her choices. It's her life. Not yours.

    Dixie - ... Don't any of you know the difference between a slut and a whore? MONEY. MONEY MONEY MONEY. Whores don't do it for free, lol. That is specifically what makes them whores. When you are doing something that is sexual and being compensated: you're a whore. Period.

    And please stop acting like people are shitting on Erin when they aren't. You're magnifying this to an entirely different extreme. Nobody said she needed aprooval, and I don't really see why you're acting like her lawyer. "Agree to disagree."

    Jessica - Shut up already.

    Dixie - lol. Get back on the pole.

    Elizabeth - Dixie is, in fact, accurately providing the definition of the word 'whore.' However, the definition of a 'nigger', is a black person. Is it okay to use the term, as long as the definition fits?

    Virginia -When something is posting on facebook, expect feedback. That's all we're doing and sounds like you want her to do it to prove us prudes wrong which is the worst advice to give. Yeah it's her life but friends are around to provide perspective and input, especially if it's something to the magnitude of putting her bits and goods on the Internet for EVERY gross mother fucker to see. Either support her because it's the best thing for her to do or get out of it because so far, your advice is not helping, it's giving us a good footing to argue with you more.

    Dixie - It is if it's in humor. What the fuck are you Martin Luther King Jr? Advocate for blacks? hahahahaha.

    Dixie - And by the way... I exercise my right to freedom of speech with pride... And even an AFRICAN AMERICAN (since we are going the politically correct route) will tell you... there IS a difference between a black person and a "nigger." Just ask Dave Chapelle.

    Elizabeth - However, once we consult the authority on words; the dictionary, we will notice that whore is often a term of abuse, just like that of nigger. If you ask any black person, there is a difference between nigger and black person. If you ask a stripper, there is a difference between stripper and whore. Still refuse to notice the similarities here? Nigger and Whore are both labels with negative connotation. The use of these words directly reflects negative bias from the user.

    Dixie - Nobody can make you feel anything you're not.

    Jessica - Where the fuck did I call anyone prude? Look I know how the industry works, I was in it. Why the hell do you think she asked me to do it with her? Why do you think she likes that I am going to support her choice no matter what it is? BECAUSE A REAL FRIEND WILL SUPPORT THE CHOICE OF OTHERS. Not tell them that what they may do would make them a whore. Point blank, don't go talking about shit you clearly know nothing about. I'm no longer in the industry and I have a great career, my past doesn't affect it one bit and I don't fucking hide it either. If you have a problem with it thats okay I don't care. And obviously if Erin wants to do something like this, it's her choice and she won't fucking care what the world thinks either. It isn't for everyone, maybe its for her.

    Jessica Also Dixie, to most people, whores have sex for money, not pose nude or strip. Big, BIG FUCKING difference.

    Jessica - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAQXg0IdfI

    Elizabeth - To be quite technical... a whore can mean 'promiscuous woman' or even 'immoral, idolatrous'. It is still a mean, offensive, name calling potshot... such as fatass. Very crude description, however, accurate.

    Jessica - Exactly. Thank you.

    Elizabeth Hohenstein Isn't it funny when people mock their own insecurities in other people?

    Almost like someone being a homophobe when in reality they are insecure and ashamed about thei homosexual curiosities.

    I sure wouldn't be calling anyone else a whore if the notches in my bedpost were so numerous. ha.

    Jessica - lol





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    SG is not my cup of tea as far as the "alt" scene goes. However, from what I read it seems those girls should be a bit more informed before making generalizations like that.
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    The Joan Jett video was a nice touch

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    Thank you lol





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    They sound like a bunch of ignorant women. I'm not a Suicide Girl (in fact I don't have any tattoo's or piercings outside of ears) but I was a stripper and model. Like you mentioned being a stripper or model doesn't make one a whore. Posing or dancing nude doesn't make anyone a whore.

    Those women sound like racist bitches. Probably jealous because they are too ugly and fat to ever have been a model or dancer.

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    I don't care if some random bitch on the internet wants to label me a whore. They can call me a whore all they want. I'll take that term and own it and laugh all the way to the bank.

    But I'd just like to add- Dixie sounds like a fucking idiot. "I just don't know what would fall under the term "WHORE" more fitting than somebody who takes their clothes off for money."

    Really? The dumb bitch can't think of any more accurate description of whore than someone who "takes her clothes off for money?" Really? How about someone who HAS SEX FOR MONEY. You know, the actual definition?

    That being said, I would advise Erin to avoid suicide girls. Their exclusivity clause is straight up exploitation. Does she want her modeling career to begin and end with them, for a measly $300 or so?
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    There's a hell of a lot of whorephobia flying around in that conversation. 'Dixie' claims to not be passing judgment right after she essentially says that your friend shouldn't become a SG because that would make her a whore. Nevermind that she doesn't seem to know the fucking definition of the word.

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    ^^^ I know. Like she doesn't know that "whore" is a negative word designed to shame people? I'd like to reply "I'm not judging you or anything Dixie, but you are a stupid bitch." Then act like I don't understand why anyone could find that offensive.
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    Idk. I could see where selling nude images of yourself = whore to some people.
    I'm not saying I agree with it... but some people are more conservative than others and disapprove of things like... plastering naked pics of yourself all over the net... and I don't think it's wrong of them to think that. It's thier opinion... and they're entitled to it.
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    It kind of tickles me that "normal" girls will take skanky pictures of themselves and put them on myspace or facebook for everybody (and their mother) to see, tell crude stories about their sex lives and look at you like you've grown another head when you tell them that some people use a condom for oral sex to prevent STDs...

    BUT

    The second any woman tries to make money from any of the above behavior, they start screaming "WHORE!"

    My husband works with a woman who constantly talks about having anal sex. Oh, but she's also allergic to latex so she does it unprotected. She thinks this is "safer" because she won't get pregnant... Those of you who understand the risks of unprotected anal sex when compared to protected vaginal sex probably just had the same reaction to that I did.

    The beauty of it is that this girl talks shit about strippers. Yeah, a girl who takes her clothes off is a whore because she does it for money but getting your asshole ripped out by a different guy every night is totally acceptable.

    fucking barf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Idk. I could see where selling nude images of yourself = whore to some people.
    I'm not saying I agree with it... but some people are more conservative than others and disapprove of things like... plastering naked pics of yourself all over the net... and I don't think it's wrong of them to think that. It's thier opinion... and they're entitled to it.

    I can respect that but at the same time, I personally think people who use abortions as birth control are disgusting BUT I don't track them down on facebook and call them murderers.

    I also think breastfeeding school age children is wrong BUT I bite my tongue instead of chasing their mothers through the mall screaming PEDOPHILE!

    I don't think it's too much to ask for people to extend the same courtesy to those in the adult industry. No one has to like it but they also don't have to go out of their way to sling nasty insults at people.

    Whore = insult
    Prostitute = woman who has sex for money

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    I can respect that but at the same time, I personally think people who use abortions as birth control are disgusting BUT I don't track them down on facebook and call them murderers.

    I also think breastfeeding school age children is wrong BUT I bite my tongue instead of chasing their mothers through the mall screaming PEDOPHILE!

    I don't think it's too much to ask for people to extend the same courtesy to those in the adult industry. No one has to like it but they also don't have to go out of their way to sling nasty insults at people.

    Whore = insult
    Prostitute = woman who has sex for money
    I don't agree with slinging insults... BUT... I think her first post made it pretty clear she had a negative opinion about it... "Don't feed the trolls" as they say.
    If she'd come out and said "Suicide Girls are just whores with tattoos. You have more class than that." as her first statement... I'd maybe think she was more in the wrong.
    But when you KNOW someone has something bad to say... and you keep encouraging them to go ahead and say it... I think it sort of takes away your right to be mad about it.
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    Yes the girl Dixie is nut and as I noticed from the photo as her default she is a fucking slut anyways. It's this horrible picture but she is showing cleavage, like it is going down here shirt and showing her tits. It got worse after this and my friend finally told them like hey thanks a lot you guys, now I know who my real friends are.

    Thing is, in my world, if someone wants to do something whether I agree with it or not; I will not ever make them feel bad or less of a person or insult them for that choice. It just isn't me. So they just kept going and I kept getting pissed. Like come on seriously, is her personal life choices going to fuck up your day or something? If it does, they are reading too much into it.





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    I love sg. Im a member. I've submitted sets. Its actually a lot harder to become an sg then it looks. ive met a lot of really awesome people there.

    Theres so many sgs now all over the world, its insane to just put them all in one category- whores. That girl sounds bitter or jealous.

    The contract is pretty crazy, but its not for everyone. Some people just enjoy shooting sets. Doesn't mean they want a career out of it.

    Eh. To each their own.

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    "Can't turn a ho into a housewife".

    Well, I'm a "ho" AND housewife!
    Gooo meeee!!
    and I'm technically a SG. Although, I haven't had a set since 2007.
    It's like Playboy, but with tattoos and piercings.

    Everyone has their ideas on what a "whore" is.
    Fuck, I've met some virgin whores! lmao

    Kinda fucked up, in my opinion, to label anyone who takes naked pictures as a whore. I've seen fully clothes images that where more "whorish" than butt naked pics. Oh well though!

    just my 2 cents...(and I didn't read the entire conversation....gotta finish reading it, maybe I'll have more to add..lol)

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    I'm not a whore, I'm a slut!!! I fuck for fun not for money!!!!
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    ^^^ I know. Like she doesn't know that "whore" is a negative word designed to shame people? I'd like to reply "I'm not judging you or anything Dixie, but you are a stupid bitch." Then act like I don't understand why anyone could find that offensive.

    This sums up how I feel about most people and their messed up manipulative conversation skills. I swear, we live in a society of people who don't take responsibility for their words.

    Dixie sounds like a judgmental racist who can't just be open about the fact she personally is offended by people who do anything outside of her comfort zone. Or most likely, wants to be apart of it but "can't" so she says such ridiculous generalizations of people who "take their clothes off for money"
    Well, lock up most major masterpieces by the master painters! Because there's LOTS of naked women in those works of art!

    What a stupid c*nt.

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    That conversation made me so mad!! I can't brook condescending little white girls like this Dixie person, standing up on her pedestal and waving her opinion in everyone's face like it's the fucking American flag. She deserves a slap in the face and a reality check. Sorry bitch, you shit DOES stink.

    But for what it's worth, I don't personally like SG much. As someone said previously, their exclusivity clauses are downright exploitative.

    (by the by, I'm white too, but honestly - white people piss me off so hard sometimes, lol.)

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    I didn't know I was a whore

    oh well time to go take my clothes of for money. it sure sucks having enough money to pay for rent and food and gas and clothes! ;]

    seriously people can call me what they want I'd rather be a rich whore than a poor self righteous bitch!

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    Sucks for Dixie's minimum wage ass, while I was strutting my naked ass and making good money, she was probably trying to figure out her own identity.





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