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    How often do you ladies knowingly rip off customers e.g. overcharging, dancing less (half song instead of full song), etc? And do you feel guilty about doing it?

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    I'll rip off a guy who comes into the club looking for extras. I won't outright agree to do anything I won't do, but I'll let him think he's going to get what he's looking for. Then I collect the money and give him the crappiest air dance of his life. As I see it, these guys are trying to destroy our work environment. If ripping them off is what drives them away, then so be it. So no, no guilt.

    "overcharging" isn't a rip off in my book if he knows what he'll be expected to pay from the get go. We're independent contractors and it's our legal right to charge whatever we wish.
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    i did it once and a while (like once per night) if the guy was being a total ass. never felt bad about it. then again, all it meant for me was i wouldnt give the full contact my club allowed and i would time it so i was done collecting money by time the song ended, which meant he lost about 40sec of dance time.

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    Just another good reason to go into a SC, enjoy the dances, buy drinks and tip well. You won't get ripped off if you just remember to respect the dancers boundries and just sit back and enjoy her hot sexy dances.

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    The closest thing to a rip off was once I accidentally gave a girl $60 too much and she didn't ask if it was a tip or a mistake. But in another case, I did exactly the same thing, and the girl handed the $60 back. (Then I gave it back to her as a tip.) Like everybody I hear the "I'll rock your world if you spend $X" stuff from a few of the dancers. I never once put any trust in that.

    Actually, there was one dancer who told me she wanted to go out with me, and wanted to give me a big discount on dances. As far as I can figure out, it was just for the sadistic pleasure of ignoring me after she got me a little stuck on her. Weird.

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    I dont really call this a rip off. But whenever I get guy into the dancing section and I always ask "Do you want me to start this song or next?" If they say this song and its half way through thats still counted as 20.

    I did rip off a really drunk guy, he was so grabby that I did push him off many many times and he still wouldnt understand, so I jibed his 20s he didnt know since an hour passed and by that time he lost count. Other than that I dont rip guys off. One of my regulars actually gave me a 100, when it was suppose 60.. I told him, and he said he thought it was 100, he took the money back, but he wasted an 100 extra on me at the end of the night than his average 200 with me.

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    My ex told me on many occasions that they would order champagne & dump it out while the guy would be ordering more & of course getting more drunk..lol..or fake shots of juice.

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    ive been ripped off a few times but i didn't mind as i loved the manipulation of it all...weird i know

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    I guess the song counting is something you need to watch, which is a pain. You can avoid if there are 15 and 30 minute rooms, but have a watch to check. In one club I know, the GIRLS would get ripped off all the time because the guy who was supposed to be keeping track would forget they were in the 30 minute room.

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    Only times when they deserve it. I've ripped off guys who get too handsy (after I've asked them to quit it) and guys looking for extras. Also, guys that are rude. Outside of that, I'd never rip off anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbeleavable View Post
    My ex told me on many occasions that they would order champagne & dump it out while the guy would be ordering more & of course getting more drunk..lol..or fake shots of juice.
    I do this sometimes and I guess I never thought of it as a ripoff. The customer can drink as much real champagne and alcohol as he wants, but if I drank as much as he thinks he's buying me, I would be in no position to give a decent dance or carry on a conversation. Customers like to buy girls drinks though and I do pretend to be tipsy so I still think of it is them getting what they paid for. I also am not the one to request the shots or champagne.

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    i don't think i've ever genuinely ripped off anybody. these are the only possible exceptions:

    - dude paid upfront for dances. handed me 100 and asked me to dance til it was gone (which would be 4 dances at that club). he commenced to pass out/fall asleep while i try to continue dancing while also preventing him from falling forward, and he's really fat and hot and sweaty. so i try to get him to wake up or whatever, and he asks me what he owes me. like, wtf dude, you must be really fucked up. so i told him 100. and he paid it. i didn't feel bad because he was so fucked up that whatever happened, he would probably be waking up with an empty wallet anyways. probably tipped the door girl 100 too. in hindsight, i wish i'd gotten more of it.

    - dude wanted to do coke with me. seriously, he walked up to me and asked me if i liked to party, if i'd party with him. i agreed. we went to champagne room. i refused (i don't use, and if i did, dude, how the fuck do i know it's really coke? it could be ground up pills for all i know. it could be laced with something. fuck that). 30 minute champagne room, and he left after 10 minutes. i don't get it. wouldn't that just be more coke for him? this was the night i realized that a lot of the crs at my club were about drugs, not necessarily extras. total wake up call. maybe i did rip him off, but i don't feel bad about it.
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    Uhhm. The only time I've come close is when I did 20+ songs in a row for the guy... I sort of lost track and when it was over he asked "That was xxx songs, right?" I thought it might have been less than that... but I just said "I... think so?" and he shrugged and gave me the money.
    I don't think it really counts... since he knew we could've gone to ask the dance tracker if he really cared.

    Does that count as ripping the customer off?
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    Default Re: How often do you rip off customers and does it bother you to do it?

    I have done it. If the guy is a total asshole I don't have a problem with it. But never by a huge amount (more than 2 songs). I honestly sometimes see it as an asshole fee or a tip because of how gross the guy might have been.

    I overcharged a guy recently by one song because I said he couldn't do something and he tried again and was going to try again until I grabbed his hand and bent his fingers back. He gave me what he owed me (80$), the one over charged song and another 20 which might have been a mistake or a tip - I didn't ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    I'll rip off a guy who comes into the club looking for extras. I won't outright agree to do anything I won't do, but I'll let him think he's going to get what he's looking for. .
    I'll do this , get the cash, then same ... airdance and when they ask AGAIN to do xyz I'll say something like " oh ...we could never do that here, it's illegal ". I do try to keep it to a minimum, but sometimes it's way too tempting. My most recent was last weekend a drunk Mexican pulls out a $100 and says " now on THIS dance I want to touch your pussy " ..... so I grabbed the $100 bill ( *didn't say anything to agree*, but did give an " I've got you " glance ) and when I got nowhere close to him he got all mad and goes " oh ! I guess you got what you wanted " . Lol.

    Also .... if they are REALLY slow getting their money out and getting settled into a dance ( like SLOW ) I might count half a song as a song ( but I really don't make a habit of it ).

    Ok .... and there was the "thug" who was wandering around so aimlessly ( but also agreeing he wanted a dance, so I just reached into his pocket and took the $20 out and said " see I got it ... we can dance now ... hahaha ...... but he didn't know I took two 20's ". I deserved that extra one anyway for the extra time he took.

    Oh .... and I've pulled the " take the whole stack move " when they walk away from the stage on a few occassions ( like ..... their money is by the drink .... I know it's not all stage tips ..... but I take it since it is technically on the stage and fling it all towards the back ).

    ^ But that's it ! A little but of ruthlessness for sure, but truly only when it's deserved . I've also done nice things too in the club.

    I do regularly upsell dances ( such as " it's $30 for one or two for $50 when it's super busy at a $20 lapdance club) but since I am an *independent contractor* I am allowed to do this because I always tell the customer in advance.
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    I concur with the jackass defense.
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    I don't recall ever being ripped off. Not saying that some dances haven't met my expectations but that's the chance you take when you pick a dance card so to speak. You pay for that dance and move on. Could be because I don't frequent high hustle out of town clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Uhhm. The only time I've come close is when I did 20+ songs in a row for the guy... I sort of lost track and when it was over he asked "That was xxx songs, right?" I thought it might have been less than that... but I just said "I... think so?" and he shrugged and gave me the money.
    I don't think it really counts... since he knew we could've gone to ask the dance tracker if he really cared.

    Does that count as ripping the customer off?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    i don't think i've ever genuinely ripped off anybody. these are the only possible exceptions:

    - dude paid upfront for dances. handed me 100 and asked me to dance til it was gone (which would be 4 dances at that club). he commenced to pass out/fall asleep while i try to continue dancing while also preventing him from falling forward, and he's really fat and hot and sweaty. so i try to get him to wake up or whatever, and he asks me what he owes me. like, wtf dude, you must be really fucked up. so i told him 100. and he paid it. i didn't feel bad because he was so fucked up that whatever happened, he would probably be waking up with an empty wallet anyways. probably tipped the door girl 100 too. in hindsight, i wish i'd gotten more of it.

    - dude wanted to do coke with me. seriously, he walked up to me and asked me if i liked to party, if i'd party with him. i agreed. we went to champagne room. i refused (i don't use, and if i did, dude, how the fuck do i know it's really coke? it could be ground up pills for all i know. it could be laced with something. fuck that). 30 minute champagne room, and he left after 10 minutes. i don't get it. wouldn't that just be more coke for him? this was the night i realized that a lot of the crs at my club were about drugs, not necessarily extras. total wake up call. maybe i did rip him off, but i don't feel bad about it.
    A dancer I know had a drunk guy puke on himself in the VIP. He went and half-way whiped it off, then wanted the rest of the time in VIP. She said, "sure, I'll be RIGHT back for that". Bet he still talks about how he got ripped off.

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    ^are you sure that wasn't you?
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    I think I've done this once or twice in 4 years of stripping.

    The guys were stupidly drunk, grabbing me, and otherwise being awful. They kept buying dances but were clearly unaware of the time they'd been alloted. I think I ended one song early.

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    ^are you sure that wasn't you?
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    Anything returned to me in the form of currency is only considered reasonable.
    Not sure exactly what that means. I can't see a guy wanting to be the regular of a dancer who's at all tricky about money. But I imagine there are some places, in Vegas and New Orleans for example, where getting regulars may not be worth it for dancers. Regulars may still be strange, but at least their not strangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilbbaicnl View Post
    Nope.
    Oh. Okay. Then I've never ripped anyone off.
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