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    When I started dancing in August, all the girls I worked with assured me that money was shit then but it would get better when "season" hit. Most of them seemed to think that would be in mid September. But the hairstylist and MUA at work say there is no season anymore, that the money is basically just shit year round.

    I feel like dancers probably know more about strip club economics than the dressing room support staff, but then again our stylists have been in the industry much longer than me so I thought I'd seek opinions here.

    So, is "season" a myth? If not, when is it?

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    the money is shit year around because of the recessions but it is LESS shitty during season, if that makes sense.

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    I just realized that the only real season here is when the drugs come in through the border.

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    Default Re: is "season" a myth?

    NYC's 'season' is dictated by it's predominant industries i.e. stockbrokers, Wall St. bankers, international corporation head offices etc. Right now, all of these are 'up in the air' in regard to their future financial outlook ( for reasons best left for discussion in the Dollar Den). All are now watching their 'discretionary expenditures', and as such are spending less at strip clubs.

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    season is real, but it's different in different places. some places (like nyc) probably don't even have it anymore. other places have it, but it really just means things stop sucking totally, not that money is really great like it used to mean.

    in a lot of places, "season" is negated by a ton of travelling dancers and girls who only work during season.

    like in florida, where "season" starts around mid-october to early november and lasts pretty much until tax day or a bit before. it isn't very long. last year it didn't really happen, because florida was so cold that snowbirds just stayed home (it also rained a lot, which always hurts sc business). and there are always way more girls dancing during season. the big difference is that off-season, your best nights are weekends, and during season weeknights are better and weekends are eh. a few years ago, i could make 100-150/hr during summer, this last season i was lucky to make 75/hr and was happy with 50/hr. think about that.

    find out what season means in a certain place...bonuses, nice weather, golf, hunting, conferences, when guys go to the clubs because there's nothing better to do, etc. factor in the local economy and how many cheap activities are available to potential custies that could distract them from the clubs. then realize that every area has good clubs, eh clubs, and bad clubs. season only really exists at the best clubs around. if there are no good clubs, there might not be a season at all.
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    Default Re: is "season" a myth?

    In my area ( even as a bartender + as a dancer ), the bars just get a little slower in the summer. Of course....dancers still have to pay bills ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    season is real, but it's different in different places. some places (like nyc) probably don't even have it anymore. other places have it, but it really just means things stop sucking totally, not that money is really great like it used to mean.

    ...like in florida, where "season" starts around mid-october to early november and lasts pretty much until tax day or a bit before. it isn't very long. last year it didn't really happen, because florida was so cold that snowbirds just stayed home (it also rained a lot, which always hurts sc business)...
    I agree with everything here, except I think the recession finally kicked it hard to Florida last winter/spring, and also discouraged people traveling to the state, who might usually have come down to Florida with money to spend. The weather was bad this year, it is true--but it was far more than just the weather.

    When I came down here four years ago, everyone kept saying how much better it was a few years before that, but I have still done very well the last four years--OK three of them, and this year still beat hell out of my best year in Daytona, with ease. But this year was about 75-80% of last. And whereas usually you can always make up for a bad month or two when Season comes around--not this year.

    There was quite simply no Season at all this year, unless you count two weeks or so of Spring Break (I don't).

    This summer was particularly brutal, as well. I was wondering if I was going to make it for a while there. Not as in starvation, but as in just not wanting to deal with the stress anymore. But I digress...

    In Key West Season is basically from late January through April, but we also have FantasyFest at the end of October, and the Power Boat Races in mid-November, two of the best weekends of the year. I made 2300 in three nights two years ago Power Boat weekend, which is very good for a DJ.

    But then Thanksgiving and Christmas are very slow, worse than summer actually.
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    I think it depends. This is from many years ago (when the economy was decent) but usually from late summer to winter money was good. For some reason around the holidays it got really good with people being in giving mood. After the holidays (early January) it tended to slow down for a few months because of the weather (winters are brutal here).

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    Djoser- which club in key west do you dj at? I worked last fantasy fest & power boat races down there and it rocked :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaichelR View Post
    Djoser- which club in key west do you dj at? I worked last fantasy fest & power boat races down there and it rocked :]
    Ditto; I want to come down this year and am doing my research now. PM if you don't want it public?

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    i was thinking the same thing, then i remembered that his club makes new girls work day shift for like 2 weeks before they can work nights. boo. but a question...if a girl works her 2 weeks, does that mean that she can come back a couple months later and work nights? the 2 weeks could be worth it in that case.

    and maybe it was just the recession getting worse, but i really don't think so. i've paid a lot of attention to the connection between business and weather, and there's a huge impact. like, if it was raining like crazy when guys left work, they probably went straight home. if it was nice out, they might have gone out for drinks with friends, then they go to the clubs. if it's raining when they're thinking of going to the clubs, they just won't. though, i imagine DH wasn't effected as badly, because it's got valet and the valet area is covered. but the other clubs leave guys exposed, so it would always be crap.

    and we were hit by the recession before most other states were. you've got to remember that. even joe redner said so. lol.

    plus, i had so many customers say they may as well not have even come down because it was as cold here as it was at home, and they couldn't do anything. that was the number one complaint i heard from guys, after they bitched about no booze in nude clubs. and usually that's what i'd talk about to get guys smiling, how smart they were to come down to florida and get out of the cold. then they'd brag about how tuff they were going to the beach while us floridians were shivvering. but this last season, there was none of that.
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    I don't work at that club anymore (the one that requires dayshift). They may have loosened that policy, since we have put the hurt on them in the last 2 1/2 years they have gotten less strict about hiring. Still a little more strict than we are, and for all I know they still require some dayshift.

    I will PM you who asked where I work now, but first I have to clean out my PM box lol (not that I am so popular, more that I am so lazy about cleaning it!).

    You could be right about the weather, SSS. All I know is, I did pretty well the first year of the recession, but not nearly as well this last year. Maybe it was both.
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    The smart traveling dancers know the season events are Kentucky derby for Louisville,Mardi gra New Orleans.Bike week Sturgis. Bike week Myrtle Beach and Daytona Biketoberfest,T.P.C.Golf Tournament Jax. Fla. The Masters Golf Tournament Augusta Georgia,Various Nascar Races in various towns,St Patricks Day and especially the night before March 16th for Savannah ,Ga.and Hardeeville ,South Carolina, Daytona500 Daytona beach Fla. Just to name a few if you follow where the action is. Francinista

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    Yes ^^^
    St.Patty's is a week long event in Savannah. Good money.

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    It's a long way off, but Bike Week in Daytona has not met the majority of dancers' expectations (both local and traveling dancers) for quite some time. In fact there have been way too many dancers gunning for way too little money during that event for more than 7 years now (the first time I really saw it happening).

    To a lesser extent, Biketoberfest has been a bit disappointing--but I have not been up there working it for over 4 years, so I no longer have current information, more hearsay from old friends.

    Still, I would not put all my eggs in one basket for Biketoberfest (coming up in two weeks I think), unless you have always done very well with biker types. Not all dancers do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    It's a long way off, but Bike Week in Daytona has not met the majority of dancers' expectations (both local and traveling dancers) for quite some time. In fact there have been way too many dancers gunning for way too little money during that event for more than 7 years now (the first time I really saw it happening).

    To a lesser extent, Biketoberfest has been a bit disappointing--but I have not been up there working it for over 4 years, so I no longer have current information, more hearsay from old friends.

    Still, I would not put all my eggs in one basket for Biketoberfest (coming up in two weeks I think), unless you have always done very well with biker types. Not all dancers do.
    I actually made more money last year by staying at my home club in Cocoa Beach; all the girls went running off to Daytona and nearly all of them came back bitching.

    I dunno. I do think there is usually a season of sorts in Florida but after the last year I've come to stop looking forward to it and have focused a lot of my energy on cultivating regulars instead. I think that and being willing to travel are the keys to financial success as a Florida dancer.

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    I've heard from like a thousand different girls at my club that it's true and that it picks up in the fall. this girl told me she used to make 800 a night on average nights and now she makes around 100-300. I started dancing around the END of "season" so I have no idea

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    When economy goes down everyone got affected...strip clubs that were busy got slower...here in Phoenix where I work, my club Hiliter is one of the busiest club day and night, even hiliter is not what it use to be. Dancers circulate looking and trying to find clubs and trying to find where and which clubs make the most money. Now, it's October almost winter...it's snowbird season here in Phoenix that's when it's supposed to get busy, but it's still slow..hopefully it will get better next month, hopefully soon...

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    It is now the season here -- visiting fishermen, football games, baseball season nearly over, outdoor work being nearly completed, kids well tucked away at school, and personal reflections of the arctic tundra in a near renewal state.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    My club is a seasonal one. Its in a ski resort and only opens December through April. Then I go to a beach resort for the summer season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    It's a long way off, but Bike Week in Daytona has not met the majority of dancers' expectations (both local and traveling dancers) for quite some time. In fact there have been way too many dancers gunning for way too little money during that event for more than 7 years now (the first time I really saw it happening).

    To a lesser extent, Biketoberfest has been a bit disappointing--but I have not been up there working it for over 4 years, so I no longer have current information, more hearsay from old friends.

    Still, I would not put all my eggs in one basket for Biketoberfest (coming up in two weeks I think), unless you have always done very well with biker types. Not all dancers do.

    I know what you mean. I was in Myrtle Beach a couple weeks ago for both of the Bike Weeks. It sucked. Too many girls, and the bikers weren't really that interested in being at the club anyway. The few who did show up didn't spend much money.

    I highly recommend that noone put their eggs in one basket for Myrtle Beach's Bike Weeks either. It is probably a better idea to go where noone else is going, or to stay home.

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    'Season' for me is when I'm single.

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    I was told, around here, that, yes, summer is a little slow, (with all the things to do outside and the water, etc, people don't start trickling in till around 12am) but that is more than made up for the sheer number of people getting married in warmer times (i.e. bachelor parties) being thrown at my little place. the girls dread them cause it's exhausting work, but they make money.
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    Season & bad season are very real here in Chicago. At least bad season is. Our money disappears usually Jan till spring (Jan & Feb being the worst here). But our winters are -30 below w/ snow drifts as tall as me sometimes.

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    Here in Virginia the "season" is usually when there's at least one carrier on port (no, the shipyard does not count), or when there's a homecoming.

    Or, weather wise, is in fall and winter.





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