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    Duh fetish customer fail.. eep!

    so i used to be a baller with fetish customers. seriously. idk why but they used to flock to me. well over the summer i havent gotten any and ive been dancing semi regularly at most... actually ive taken most the summer off . but yea, yesterday i had a boot fetish customer and i just totally failed. he was somewhat submissive... when i named the price for the hour though he balked and said he could get 200 an hour at a local dungeon.

    ugh i feel so rusty. i cant believe a botched it up, subs should not be naming the price. i still got some money out of him to lick my boot, but the fact that i didnt completely bank off of him has me really mad at myself.

    i need my dom mojo back .
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    How do you get those custys!?! Id love to make money off shit like that!

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    Default Re: fetish customer fail.. eep!

    Athena - I know what you mean. Lately I've been in a rut with all my sub custys...I don't know how to handle them anymore! I think I've just become bored with the whole thing. I need some new ideas...my old collar-tricks just aren't doing it anymore (for me or the customers).

    Don't forget though - some guys claim to be submissive, but they aren't true subs. They fantasize about it, but don't really get off on it in practice. If might not have been you, it could have been him.

    I think I'm going to try perusing through some Dom-related sites. Maybe being immersed in the language will freshen me up and get my groove back. I love having customers like this and I don't want to lose them! Too much money at stake.



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    re chaos: idk they just come to me. im not usually dressed in any fetish type gear. I am told that i have a very intense stare though and i come across as a dominating person, and usually in the lap dance i will scratch their back and see how they react and go more or less kink from there. ive been lazy lately and wearing knee high leather boots instead of my 8-inch stilletos, and last night ih ad a matching leather looking skirt and a black bikini top, so i think the boots grabbed his attention. a lot of customers do like those boots considering i come across as a blonde rocker chick.

    re 4ever: yea i know ive totally lost the magic. need to get it back. i think that he was more of a slight sub into things like sucking on toes and licking boots... i do great with subs but i actually dont usually get feet guys. i have had customers who were subs so i made them lick my boots as part of the submissive act... but a guy who tells me i have a boot fetish im not quite as accustomed to. it was a failure on my part to work it in properly.
    i think after i move back to NOLA this winter im going to get a job training in a dungeon. ive just been moving too much to do it lately.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Athena, I think your mistake was in assuming that everyone who wants to act out a submissive fantasy is truly and wholly submissive. Clearly, this guy wasn't the "slave" type. He just had a fantasy he wanted to act out. It can be hard to tell in a club environment, it's not like being a pro-domme where people call you ahead of time and you have time to pick their brain and figure them out. Don't be so hard on yourself. It's not like you could have made him pay more if you were a "better Domme" of something. It just wasn't what he was. You probably got out of him all there was to get. So, probably not a fail at all.
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    I wouldn't know what to do with boot fetish customer either...I'm just not good at thinking on my feet like that. I guess because my heart is in it for money I can't just come up with ideas on the spot.

    Let me know how the training goes. I'd do it around here except it's competitive to get into - you need to find a mistress to teach you, and they require you do it out of a love of dominating, not a love of money. I enjoy dominating guys because I think it's a good laugh, but I really only enjoy it compared to having to dance and get all sweaty.



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    ^yea im hoping i can get a mistress to train me. i need to start the hunt soon. there is a blue on this site who seems to know where the dungeons are everywhere so at some point i will have to PM him and ask for his help.

    lol i admittedly do love it. idk i must be sadistic. but the nights when i got the subs and was beating the shit out of them i was really enjoying it. partly because of the adrenaline rush knowing i was making a disgustin amount of money, but also because of some other part of me. actually the monday before mardi gras after two of my best nights of dominating customers i almost felt bad and started questioning whether i was a bad person for being so horrible to people for money... almost... almost.....

    also elvia: thanks for the kind words . I just feel like i kind of hesitated a bit. i do get hard on myself... its part of the nature of this business i think
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Along with others, I'm amazed and jealous that you seem to find sub guys so easily. Maybe I don't because of my region. I come across as very dominant in person, so I'm surprised they don't find me.

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    ^^have you ever tried wearing something fetish-y at work? nothing too crazy... maybe a fishnet top over a bra with a skirt and kneehigh boots? or maybe fishnet stockings? dark eye make up? even normal guys like this look a lot of the time. this could help. and you can probe a bit... with this boot guy i talked about going to folsom street fair (worlds largest leather fest). most guys like a little bit of kink at least, so if you weave it into the conversation then you can find out if they are someone who just might like the look or if they are full on wanting to be whipped and dominated.

    and like elvia and 4ever said, some guys wont be slaves but some will enjoy the fantasy of an aggressive woman pushing them into a chair and hungrily undressing for them while being in charge. a little kink and wildness can help a lot-- even with guys who are not fetish customers at all.

    also, ironically, i got both of my two best paying fetish customers when wearing a target bra, tie on booty shorts, knee high stocks, and regular stripper shoes. i discovered both were subs just by probing and reading them a little. Its very possible that you have encountered subs and just didnt notice it-- maybe another girl did later and got money off of him. its happened to me many times before. keep in mind a lot guys who are into the fetish stuff are also ashamed, its up to you to either come across as not judgmental enough for them to open up to or to notice that they have a fetish and encourage them to explore it. example: last night i found out that guy was a boot fetish guy because he mentioned he liked my boots and a light went off in my head and i pushed the topic further. it would be very easy to pass up the connection between him liking my boots and him wanting to pay to lick my boots. i mean, other customers also complemented them-- its hard to distinguish between a guy complementing your boots to be nice and because he thinks they look hot and a guy who is complementing your boots because he wants to put them in his mouth. hoping im making sense here?
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    ^ I am super non-judgmental, but I think my look is just way too girl-next-door for the sub thing. That's just how I make my money.

    I respect what you do though.

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    Actually, i do know some girls next door who get the fetish guys.

    i think i will start a thread on spotting fetish guys at it is very relevant. and im only good at the sub guys really. i wish i was better at the foot guys etc etc. and im curious what the fetish customers themselves do to let girls know that they have a fetish.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    OMG! Yes please do Athena! That would be great, and I will contribute what I can. I'm really good with the foot and leg guys, it doesn't take much.

    Also, listing things you do with subs in the club that are law-friendly and require no traditional sexual contact. Props you use, etc.....an hour can seem really long when a guy just wants to hear how much of a little bitch he is. I need new ideas!



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    Quote Originally Posted by p-bunny View Post
    Being a domme isn't just a pair of boots you slip into. You either are that way or you're not.
    It can be for profit. It's silly to say that because I'm not a natural domme that I can't put on the act for a few hours to make a grand or two. It's not a lifestyle thing for me, it's a profit thing.

    Also, I don't think a Domme would EVER physically wrestle with her sub. Tie him up, yes, but wrestle? If you're a Domme you control your sub, and if he won't have it you give him a take it or leave it ultimatum. Dommes do not get into physical altercations, they are far above fighting with sub like their the subs equal.



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    Hey athena do you encounter alot of subs in Ohio? I had a guy who said he wanted to explore that whole sub thing in a room and it was an hour room but i didn't know what to do or what to say where do you start as far as dialogue goes? So i got another girl who is good at domme to meet him and she got him to buy another 15 with me and her and i just felt completely lost i bombed the whole thing he would have spent alot too
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    It sounds like he wanted to top from the bottom; which is not a true sub. Depending on what state you're in, everything is getting cheaper; which id why om considering leaving the industry. I'll never just settle for less. Ever.

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    Athena, try to get that guy on here UrbanOzz. He might give you some money, he pissed me of and he's not even worth my time anymore. I hope he reads this too.
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    You can say that again.. not just on here but men in general. Guys are so damn lame, the only way they can halfway make up for it is by opening their wallets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    OMG! Yes please do Athena! That would be great, and I will contribute what I can. I'm really good with the foot and leg guys, it doesn't take much.

    Also, listing things you do with subs in the club that are law-friendly and require no traditional sexual contact. Props you use, etc.....an hour can seem really long when a guy just wants to hear how much of a little bitch he is. I need new ideas!
    just saw this... i do have some ideas. will put them in the other thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by p-bunny View Post
    Being a domme isn't just a pair of boots you slip into. You either are that way or you're not. Then the subs will naturally flock to you. I am "nice" to women, but with men I have a very discriminating pinpoint attitude. A lot of men register that as confidence. Most are very intimidated.

    It doesn't matter to me what they like. It's what I like and if I want them to have fun too. Friday I suggested to a guy that we go to champagne because he wanted to use his credit card for dances. We went up and he got too grabby. I took his shirt off and hog tied him with the sleeves, then proceeded to dance because it was SUCH a tease and SO fun to watch him squirm. He complained that he wanted to touch me so I told him to get out of the knots his damn self. Pushed him on to the couch and watched him from the other one cackling. "You're wasting sweet champagne time." He finally gets out. I applaud him and then he tries getting forceful to get me to have sex. I saw this as the green light to fight and we ended up on the ground wrestling. I put him in a sleeper hold When the champagne hostess woke him up he was too exhausted and drunk to get up and leave so he purchased another hour and I just watched him nap.

    Love yourself and the best customers will see that.
    it might not be, like i said, my best nights with subs were when i was wearing a bra and booty shorts.

    that being said, being naturally dominant doesnt mean i would wrestle a customer. i have tied customers up with booty shorts in the champagne room on numerous occasions though. its practical.

    Quote Originally Posted by MOP View Post
    Hey athena do you encounter alot of subs in Ohio? I had a guy who said he wanted to explore that whole sub thing in a room and it was an hour room but i didn't know what to do or what to say where do you start as far as dialogue goes? So i got another girl who is good at domme to meet him and she got him to buy another 15 with me and her and i just felt completely lost i bombed the whole thing he would have spent alot too
    in Ohio? not as much. i didnt really start attracting the submissive scum until i moved to NOLA. then they started flocking towards me.

    charlie might be onto something with the whole regional thing. but then again, when i worked in OH i did ok for myself, but i also did not have confidence in myself to sell hour champagne rooms (always sold half hours. i sold them very quickly so i still did well, but if i could go back and do it again.....). in NOLA i quickly gained confidence to sell the super expensive rooms. maybe that is what started attracting the subs? the fact that i felt that 1500$ an hour was totally reasonable and even a bargain for my time?

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Athena, try to get that guy on here UrbanOzz. He might give you some money, he pissed me of and he's not even worth my time anymore. I hope he reads this too.
    lol no thank you. you already warned me about him. any creepy 'sub' who googles you and stalks you is not worth my time. i think the ladies on here should also be aware of this and not get involved with him .
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    My personal relationships are dom/sub usually. Most of the time the people i have met were just fantasizing and exploring, I believe a most true submissives wouldnt go to a stripclub but a real dominatrix who is independent or a dungeon.

    I have had a real submissive come into the club once. I would choke him with his belt, smack him w/belt, made him lick my shoes, get him to take out $$ from the ATM and shower me with it....but i was always in control and never let him set a price.

    A lot of subs like to test you(top from the bottom) and I always maintained control, or i would punish them if they said something out of line. Like the naming the price situation, I wouldve made him get on his knees or whipped him and tell him i name the price, i make the rules . He mightve been testing u, just put him in his place and it will really turn him on.

    I hope this helps thats just my personal experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniella_maria View Post
    It sounds like he wanted to top from the bottom; which is not a true sub. .
    Or they havent been trained properly. I think being truly submissive is an art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine22 View Post
    Or they havent been trained properly. I think being truly submissive is an art.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    lol no thank you. you already warned me about him. any creepy 'sub' who googles you and stalks you is not worth my time. i think the ladies on here should also be aware of this and not get involved with him .
    I have every intention of milking him properly if/when my other regulars dry up. I have the benefit of actual physical contact though, as he and I live in the same city. UrbanOzz isn't s true Sub, he's a financial submissive...those types are often needy and require actual physical reprimanding and enforcement.... not like a normal sub-type.



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    what did you tell him when you named your price? If my price is higher than the local dungeon I usually tell them to go there then and walk away. They usually follow me.

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    I agree with Sananeko. Next time grab them by the face and say "How dare you talk to me that way. The price just went up a $100".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    I agree with Sananeko. Next time grab them by the face and say "How dare you talk to me that way. The price just went up a $100".

    But that's just me.
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